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To: Impy

Valid point, seems like giving the Governor veto power would be useless if the legislature could override it by simple majority. Still, I’ve read the WV legislature might not override his veto anyway because a few phony “pro-life” RATs might flip-flop when the override measure comes up. Reminds me of Congressman Lipinski voting against Obamacare and campaigning on “I was a principled Dem who stood against Obama” blah blah blah, then voting NO on repealing it.

Also, what constituents “supermajority”? In Illinois, it’s less than the 2/3rds requirement at the federal level, but it still takes 60% of the legislature to override a veto. I’d say that counts as a supermajority (which sadly the Dems now have). Maybe some states have an even greater threshold, like requiring 3/4ths majority to override the Governor.

I remember the 67% override requirement of the U.S. constitution vs. 60% override requirement of the state constitution was an important essay on my H.S. constitution test. (gotta wonder about the freepers who make up their own definition of “republic” to justify their anti-17th amendment talking points that nobody used until a decade ago, and then claiming I flunked my constitution test when I use the correct, universally-accepted definitions of “republic” and “democracy”. I have to assume they took their “constitution test” in communist China because they have the talking points used by the communists to justify Tiananmen Square down pat (”Democracy=MOB RULE!!! Most EVIL form of government EVER to exist! MUST be crushed!!”)


18 posted on 03/30/2014 5:10:07 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Looking at the weather lately, I could really use some 'global warming' right now!)
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To: BillyBoy; AuH2ORepublican; fieldmarshaldj

“what constituents “supermajority””

Well, any threshold over 50%+1. I think every states leg (that uses supermajorities) uses either 2/3s or 3/5s. 3/4s of states required to ratify amendments is the only use of 3/4s that I’m aware of.

In addition to veto overrides I know IL requires 3/5s to ratify any federal amendment.

Remember the Cook County Board used to require a four fifths(!) majority to override the President’s veto, the only county in the state with such a ridiculously high threshold! Stroger used the veto to great effect until the state leg passed legislation in 2009 lowering the threshold to 3/5s.


20 posted on 03/30/2014 8:39:01 PM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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