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Which Side Are You On? (You have to bend over for the GOP)
national review ^ | March 29, 2014 4:00 AM | Kevin D Williamson

Posted on 03/30/2014 5:53:19 PM PDT by Bigtigermike

I am not naïve enough to believe that having elected Mitt Romney president or consigning the Democrats to the minority in both houses of Congress would change all that. But unless you are ready to give up on electoral politics entirely — and I confess to wavering on that question with a bias toward despair — then it is a matter of deciding whether X is preferable to Y. And sometimes that is a pretty easy call. Contemplating the inevitable shortcomings of elected Republicans, conservatives may consider the situation and think: “The lesser of two evils is still evil.” And it is. But it’s also lesser. And if that’s the choice we have, it may be unpalatable — but it is a choice that we have to make. I liked the Cthulhu 2012 slogan — “Why Vote for a Lesser Evil?” — but that’s a joke, not a program. The reason to vote for a lesser evil is because we’re responsible adults who don’t want the greater evil to prevail.

If this seems inconsistent with more than a little of what I have written before, I suppose a personal note is in order. I left the Republican party because I didn’t want to be part of any organization that would have Arlen Specter as a member, and because I was appalled at the fiscal incontinence of the Bush years. And I’ve very much enjoyed being able to tell people that I’m not a Republican. (Some days more than others, as you might imagine.) That being said, I am coming around to the view that I’d rather be disappointed by Republicans who periodically fail live up to their principles than have my country pillaged and hobbled by Democrats who consistently live up to theirs.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: establishment; gopelite; lesseroftwo; rino

1 posted on 03/30/2014 5:53:20 PM PDT by Bigtigermike
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To: Bigtigermike
McConnell IS evil.

Ditch Mitch at all costs.

2 posted on 03/30/2014 5:54:28 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Bigtigermike

“The reason to vote for a lesser evil is because we’re responsible adults who don’t want the greater evil to prevail.”

Then stop complaining about the GOP since you got the lesser evil you wanted.

Can’t have it both ways folks.


3 posted on 03/30/2014 5:56:44 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (I)
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To: Bigtigermike

Mitt Romney was far from being a republican and light years away from being a conservative.

Was he the lesser of two evils? I don’t care, I gave up on voting for the lesser of two evils after voting for McCain. I said “never again” and I damn sure meant it.

After the utter disaster of obama, possibly the GOPE will consider backing a conservative - I know, I kid myself.


4 posted on 03/30/2014 5:59:22 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (God is not the author of confusion. 1 Cor 13: 33)
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To: Bigtigermike
When the 2016 election comes down to Jeb Bush vs Any Democrat, there is no "lesser" evil. It is purely a tribal election. You are supposed to vote for the guy who belongs to your tribe/family/race. In that sense we have already devolved to third world status where Democracy is of no avail. Democracy forced onto a tribally based society just means you vote for the guy from your own tribe in hơpes that he will plunder the rest of the population for your tribe's benefit.
5 posted on 03/30/2014 5:59:28 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINEhttp://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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To: Graybeard58
There are not enough elected conservatives in the party to make much difference, if any. We may elect 100% conservatives to COngress but within 48 hours of them taking their seats they ain't conservatives any more. They find out instanter that if they hew to principle they will never be rich. Their fortune will be limited to their salaries and whatever their own financial acumen can accomplish. If they vote as they are told to vote they are assured of being wealthy for the rest of their lives even if they never win another election.
6 posted on 03/30/2014 6:04:46 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINEhttp://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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To: Bigtigermike

So you think there’s no difference between Mitt Romney and Barak Obama?


7 posted on 03/30/2014 6:07:46 PM PDT by sasquatch
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To: sasquatch

Should have asked the question of the original author...


8 posted on 03/30/2014 6:08:32 PM PDT by sasquatch
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To: Bigtigermike

Bingo.


9 posted on 03/30/2014 6:09:40 PM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: sasquatch

Going by their records, nope. Not enough to matter. Both pro gay, anti military, pro socialist healthcare, pro illegal...and many other points.

Oh and Romney’s liberalism helped move the whole of the GOP left. See their votes since the slaughter for proof. Thats something Barry couldn’t even do.


10 posted on 03/30/2014 6:13:35 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (I)
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To: Paladin2

Agree. At all costs!


11 posted on 03/30/2014 6:22:44 PM PDT by tennmountainman (Just Say No To Obamacare)
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To: Norm Lenhart

There is a difference between liberal and socialist.


12 posted on 03/30/2014 6:30:50 PM PDT by sasquatch
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To: sasquatch

Not really anymore. It’s really a semantic argument at this point. Today they are one and the same. Liberals adopted socalism as their guiding force and socialists embraced liberalism’s modern definition.


13 posted on 03/30/2014 6:33:25 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (I)
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To: sasquatch

Mitt Romney is a self-admitted Progressive. What differences?


14 posted on 03/30/2014 6:37:06 PM PDT by SatinDoll (A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN IS BORN IN THE USA OF USA CITIZEN PARENTS)
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To: Bigtigermike

More “lesser evil” nonsense.


15 posted on 03/30/2014 6:39:21 PM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Bigtigermike

I don’t care about party, if they are not conservative do not vote for them


16 posted on 03/30/2014 6:46:55 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Lesser and greater evils are on the same side!


17 posted on 03/30/2014 6:47:44 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: sasquatch
So you think there’s no difference between Mitt Romney and Barak Obama?

Maybe not much, but enough for me to believe that the US would be in much better shape today with Romney at the helm.

There isn't an electable conservative today that would meet the criteria of such a diverse group as conservatives are. There's always something wrong with someone that will keep enough conservatives at home sitting on their hands and letting a Dem win yet another election.

18 posted on 03/30/2014 6:50:29 PM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: sasquatch
Romney was the last chance for the GOPe to get (at least partial) conservative support for their lame candidates.

Jeb will do worse than Romney. The GOPe has LOST the base.

19 posted on 03/30/2014 6:54:15 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Timber Rattler
More “lesser evil” nonsense.

So accepting a greater evil is better.

Interesting.

20 posted on 03/30/2014 6:55:32 PM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: Paladin2

“Romney was the last chance for the GOPe to get (at least partial) conservative support for their lame candidates.”

That religiously selective abortion pusher is where they lost me forever. McCain was the end of the line for me, and even then I voted for the ticket hoping McCain would die the day after being sworn.


21 posted on 03/30/2014 7:00:02 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (FIGHT! FIGHT! SEVERE CONSERVATIVE AND THE WILD RIGHT!)
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To: Bigtigermike
I’d rather be disappointed by Republicans who periodically fail live up to their principles

With the leadership, it's not periodically, it's all the time. And it is a great deal worse than just falling short.

It's traitorous back room deals with the enemy. Pushing for amnesty against the will of the majority of voters (and the safety of the country) is not a simple failure to live up to principles. We passed that station a long time ago.

22 posted on 03/30/2014 7:00:13 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ((If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: GeronL

Isn’t it interesting how we are still so far out from the election but are already being softened up?

Gotta get that incremental evil in there somehow. Cuz you know, evil isn’t evil when it could be worse evil! Then it’s lesser evil and lesser evil is good evil. So since evil can be good as I just proved, we should embrace lesser evil and work toward greater evil since more is better.

Simple really.


23 posted on 03/30/2014 7:00:53 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (I)
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To: Psalm 144

Well, the GOPe’s support will only wane from 2012.


24 posted on 03/30/2014 7:01:13 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Norm Lenhart

Happens every time it seems


25 posted on 03/30/2014 7:04:46 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

It’s not their principles they fail to live up to, they have none


26 posted on 03/30/2014 7:06:00 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: GeronL

It is pathetic how fast people will embrace ‘lesser’ evil rather than fight against evil period.

Imagine Washington/Franklin and co. embracing lesser evil. We have become evil and refuse to man up to it. Then again, evil and cowardice go hand in hand...


27 posted on 03/30/2014 7:07:53 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (I)
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To: Paladin2

Most likely. I see nothing happening that will reverse it.


28 posted on 03/30/2014 7:08:20 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (FIGHT! FIGHT! SEVERE CONSERVATIVE AND THE WILD RIGHT!)
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To: Norm Lenhart

The revolution was too radical. The GOP would be asking for compromises that leaves England in charge of the colonies with tiny concessions to the colonists


29 posted on 03/30/2014 7:11:51 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: GeronL
It’s not their principles they fail to live up to, they have none

I stand correctly corrected. Amoral scum are incapable of having principles.

30 posted on 03/30/2014 7:13:38 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ((If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: GeronL

If FR existed back then, there would be a number of posters railing against the Founders and demanding purist colonists be punished for wasting the King’s tea.

Actually, there were those types...


31 posted on 03/30/2014 7:15:55 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (I)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Some of them were so upset by liberty they went to Canada


32 posted on 03/30/2014 7:17:34 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: GeronL

Oh if only the modern versions would do likewise. Or go to Europe where there are more like them.


33 posted on 03/30/2014 7:23:26 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (I)
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To: Paladin2

Be a GOP BITCH, vote for Mitch!


34 posted on 03/30/2014 7:27:01 PM PDT by right way right (America has embraced the suck of Freedumb.)
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To: Bigtigermike

National Review is a `lesser evil.’


35 posted on 03/30/2014 7:37:12 PM PDT by tumblindice (Are all Democrats inveterate, habitual liars?)
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To: Timber Rattler

Exactly.


36 posted on 03/30/2014 7:52:17 PM PDT by tennmountainman (Just Say No To Obamacare)
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To: Bigtigermike
I liked the Cthulhu 2012 slogan — “Why Vote for a Lesser Evil?” — but that’s a joke, not a program.

Then you'll love the Hillary Clinton / Mitt Romney [D] vs John Mcain / Jeb Bush [R] that's planned for 2016.
(The above is meant to be cynical humor, not a suggestion for our elites overlords to show that they're committed to reaching across the aisle.)

37 posted on 03/30/2014 8:37:52 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: GeronL
The revolution was too radical. The GOP would be asking for compromises that leaves England in charge of the colonies with tiny concessions to the colonists

Much like the Intolerable Acts, yes?

38 posted on 03/30/2014 8:40:21 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Graybeard58
Was he the lesser of two evils? I don’t care, I gave up on voting for the lesser of two evils after voting for McCain. I said “never again” and I damn sure meant it.

Thank you sir, for standing up for something.

39 posted on 03/30/2014 8:41:43 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: arthurus
A very uninformed and unintellectual response-you uttered pure emotion. And your pure emotion will allow evil to prevail.
40 posted on 03/30/2014 10:26:29 PM PDT by Dave W
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To: Bigtigermike

Aside from Reagan I can’t think of a federal election where I have voted FOR someone tather than against the other guy.

Can anyone here say they voted FOR mccain because he is McCain?


41 posted on 03/31/2014 10:59:44 AM PDT by Organic Panic
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