Skip to comments.Kerry suggests defining Israel as “national homeland for Jews”
Posted on 03/30/2014 7:37:00 PM PDT by Nachum
Why exactly a national homeland for Jews would be acceptable to Palestinian Islamic supremacists in a way that Jewish state isnt remains unclear, but the Palestinians, as maximalist and unilateral as ever, have already rejected the proposal, so we will probably never glimpse the arcane reasoning processes of the formidable Kerry.
Report: Kerry suggests defining Israel as national homeland for Jews, by Roi Kais for Ynet News, March 29 (thanks to Jerk Chicken):
US Secretary of State John Kerry is trying to overcome the controversy surrounding the recognition of Israel as a Jewish state by changing the definition to the national homeland of the Jews, the London-based Arabic Al-Hayat newspaper reported Saturday morning.
The report, that quoted western diplomatic sources, noted that in exchange for Kerrys initiative, the Palestinians would have to agree that the Palestinian capital would be established only in parts of East Jerusalem; it was further reported that the Palestinians have rejected the proposal.
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Code for ghetto.
The Palestinian Arabs will not agree to Jewish nationhood under any circumstances.
This is what they reject outright and that’s exactly why the peace process is dead.
I see a big difference, and I see a trap.
Its basically the same thing. Secretary Kerry clarified to every one what the Arabs really oppose:
National self-determination for the Jewish people. That is exactly why in truth peace is impossible in the Middle East.
Without Arab agreement to this basic principle, the conflict will never be over.
You know, like Birobidjan was the ‘national homeland for Jews’ in the Soviet Union.
Or Thereisienstadt was the “homeland for Jews” in the Third Reich.
Wasn’t the “national homeland” idea already tried with the Balfour Declaration?
That’s the ticket, Israel. You too can have a DHS just like US ...
That’ll solve the problem.
I'll take a stab at that one. A "national homeland" does not imply sovereignty, control, or permanence. It's sort of like having a room in a hotel. It's your home as long as the owner of the hotel agrees to it.
Israel would do well to ignore everything Kerry says or will say.
Yes, with the idea that it should remain under British sovereignty.
Ludicrous that kerry thinks anyone but ISRAEL is on any position to make any CHOICES for Israel
How about defining Israel as: the nation of Israel.
Same reason that “people of color” is politically correct but “colored people” is racist.
It is extremely difficult to remove the problems and political complications of the Middle-East from religion. But Kerry has done it. There are political forces in this country that feel ‘bad’ for Native Americans because their country was taken over. Well the country of the People of the Book, the Jews, is well documented in the Bible. So anyone like Kerry trying to dictate international whatevers has to take to account the history of the Jews in the Middle-East. Someone a little more important than Kerry gave the Jews their land. Its boundaries were defined by wherever Moses placed his foot after receiving God’s instructions for His people. So from Palestine to the border of Egypt everyone should be happy that the Jews don’t claim all of it and fight for it.
With its' capital, Jerusalem.
Kerry can’t possibly believe taht the PLO seriously wants peace.
So this means he is shilling for them?
Kerry may be the absolute dumbest man to ever hold his position.
Kerry is embarrassing himself and insulting the intelligence of the Israelis. The latter bothers me greatly. The former concerns me not at all, but you’d think he’d have one friend who’d...never mind.
I suggest defining Kerry as a “lying, gold-digging traitor”.
Every nation on earth is a homeland.
The Arabs simply deny the Jews are entitled to one. From the Arab viewpoint, the Jews are merely members of a religion and do not constitute a nation. That view by the way, is in black and white in the PLO Covenant.
Now we get to the real heart of the conflict - its not the words “Jewish State” the Arabs have an issue with but with the fact Jews claim national rights that are equal to theirs.
They cannot ever accept Jews as equals and there will never be peace. Any one who thinks otherwise is not conversant with reality.
What utter bs. Kerry needs to go squirt ketchup on a bathroom wall somewhere other than in the Middle East.
This proposal is so stunningly stupid that it leaves me speechless but not in the least surprised comming from the mac daddy administration inhabited by mindless sock puppets.
Once again mac, the pu***, daddy can claim no knowledge of what’s going on until he heard it on the news.
Wow just wow
Hmmm excrement covered Secretary of State or .......dip shit, just using kerry’s logic.
Or Thereisienstadt was the homeland for Jews in the Third Reich.
Hey, it makes things so much easier when you can get them all gathered up in one place
“Ludicrous that kerry thinks anyone but ISRAEL is on any position to make any CHOICES for Israel”
Exactly ! Kerry is just showing his pathetic ass, as always.
Why not Bronx or Brooklyn for a national homeland for Jews?
A dividing of Israel and Jerusalem a stumbling block.
Just as the Bible prophecies say will happen.
The Saudis have big influence over the U.S. State Department.
That is why all SOS for the past twenty-plus years have been buffoons.
Shoot, even James Baker’s law firm defended the Saudis against 9/11 families.
Where does he suggest they build the showers and ovens?
Pray America wakes up
Let’s see - he was correct in supporting the Nuclear Freeze movement, the Sandinista regime in Nicaragua and of course his truthful testimony in regards to war crimes by US soldiers in Vietnam - why wouldn’t he be correct in this verbal gymnastic exercise? We are all too obtuse to appreciate his skills when it comes to international issues.
He’s no Jimmy Byrnes that’s for sure - he was probably the last great Dem Secretary of State this country has seen
Every single person on the obama administration is insane.
Mr arrogant and egotistical kerry, you have no right to define who or what they are. So STFU and get the hell out of the way. When the Palestinians get tired of dieing they will see the light.
The only thing the muslim world respects it overwhelming force and the willingness to use it. History has proven this time and time again.
There is No. Such. Thing. As. A. “Palestinian”. period.
I was taught by a survivor, now departed. How anyone could move on after enduring such hardship and witnessing such horrors still amazes me.
He must have been spending too much time around Joe Biden.
Define America Kerry! It’s good thing no one takes your crap seriously! Good luck on that Russian deal!
The thing is, the Israelis and the Arabs aren't so easily misled, but then again, the entire point of this exercise is to paint the Israelis as intransigent in the eyes of the low information voters in America so that more and more Americans will view Israel as the problem. Unfortunately, it will work in many sections of America, especially in our educational system and all corners of our government, not to mention the large number of clueless voters who will push the button for a democrat without understanding reality.
Is he inviting us to leave the USA? Are we displaced people again?
Thank you for stating what I was thinking.
The Arabs who claim to be Palestinians (there is no such separate people), have kept it up until they are getting it and the Israelis are just some weird people who just happened to be on that land for well over 2,000 years. From the time of Israel's beginning, the world has tried to eliminate these people from the earth. It will never happen.
Antisemitism and the lust for oil are the principal reasons people side against Israel and for the Palestinians
Israel has made some incomprehensible errors IMO. Giving control of the Temple Mount back to their enemies after retaking Jerusalem. WTF were they thinking!?
Giving Gaza to their enemies instead of running them out of Israel is another WTF were they thinking moment.
I got a question.
What f***ing business is it of John Kerry’s what Israel is defined as?
Jews in the US have had that fear before.
Well, Kerry. You’re a bit late.
Does “Balfour” mean anything to you?
It will not be over until Israel inflicts massive casualties on the so-called palestinians;
annexes the land that is rightfully Jewish from the Jordan to the Med, from Eilat to the Golan;
removes the mosque on top of the Temple Mount and delivers it to Jordan or wherever;
announces they will only give resident alien status to muslims now living across the Green Line who publicly announce on TV broadcasted across the Mideast that they swear fealty to the Laws of the Jewish State of Israel.
Those who refuse can leave immediately with their possessions and be paid fair market value for their property;
those who refuse or subsequently break Israeli law will have their property confiscated and be deported.
THEN THERE WILL BE PEACE THROUGHOUT THE LAND.
Great minds think alike...