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Immigration Reform Is a Moral Imperative
Wall Street Journal ^ | March 30, 2014 | Ralph Reed and Russell Moore

Posted on 03/31/2014 10:12:26 AM PDT by C19fan

Republicans in the House of Representatives—sensing the political winds at their backs heading into the midterm election and distrustful of President Obama's willingness to enforce the law—have opted to do nothing about immigration. Their strategy is shortsighted.

Reform will require moral courage and leadership, but it is necessary. Because of the federal government's failure to secure the border, antiquated policies and a patchwork of conflicting regulations, there are now millions of people who have overstayed visas or crossed our borders illegally. The current system is inadequate for the country's needs, and it is inequitable as well.

(Excerpt) Read more at online.wsj.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; cheaplabor; immigration; massamnesty; mexico
Let us take a look at this statement:

But we also must remember that every individual is created in the image of God and precious in His sight. This means laws for how immigrants will enter the U.S. in the future and how those already here are dealt with should acknowledge each person's God-given dignity.

I can take that statement to its logical conclusion and say we should have zero borders and whoever wants to come here should be allowed. Why should Person A be let in and not Person B. Isn't Person B have the same God-Given dignity as Person A?

I do not know anything about Mr. Moore but I do know Ralph Reed sold out for DC filthy lucre a long time ago.

1 posted on 03/31/2014 10:12:27 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: C19fan

Starting with solid border control and real enforcement is a moral imperative.


2 posted on 03/31/2014 10:13:12 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: C19fan
The immigrant community is brimming with hard-working, entrepreneurial, family-oriented men and women who yearn for freedom and aspire to be Americans in the fullest sense.

NO, NO, NO!!!! Enough with this BS that immigrants are hard-working and family oriented. Enough with the BS that they aren't going to be a Welfare and transfer payment drag. Enough! If they want to come in and get NO benefits, then fine. But we all know that ain't happening.

3 posted on 03/31/2014 10:16:15 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: cripplecreek
complete the southern border fencing/enforcement/banning illegal hiring, then we'll talk.

4 posted on 03/31/2014 10:17:01 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Caligula / 0'Reid / 0'Pelosi)
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To: C19fan

I’d like to plant a BASEBALL Bat to the side of this PUNK’s Head;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ralph_E._Reed,_Jr.


5 posted on 03/31/2014 10:18:23 AM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: C19fan; Tennessee Nana; Liz; TADSLOS; EXCH54FE; GeronL; Travis McGee; jimbo123; ...

Ralph Reed amnesty morality ping!


6 posted on 03/31/2014 10:21:26 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama : 'You can keep your doctor if you want. I never tell a lie ')
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To: C19fan

Mr. Reed is wrong on his assumption that the lawful should submit to the crimes of other people simply because they think they have a right to commit those crimes.

There is nothing in our Constitution which identifies invasion by a foreign populace as their Right, simply because they did not follow the moral path and thus ended up with a failed society.

Does the Devil have the Right to take over Heaven, Mr. Reed? Simply because the world he made is so awful?

Apparently Ralph thinks Misery Loves Company is an edict from on high.

God made the Nations. It’s in the Bible. Reality reflects it. Those who follow the righteous path..live well.

Should we simply hand over all that was built to the un-Righteous? Let them destroy it?

Don’t think so.


7 posted on 03/31/2014 10:22:48 AM PDT by Regulator
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To: C19fan
One thing everyone can agree upon is MEXICO SUCKS!!

One can't have God-Given dignity in Mexico?

8 posted on 03/31/2014 10:24:21 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: C19fan

Read this book(It talks about PUNKS likhttp://www.amazon.com/Wont-Get-Fooled-Again-Christian/dp/0983723818/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_tope Reed):


9 posted on 03/31/2014 10:28:12 AM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: C19fan

Deportation of criminal invaders is a moral imperative.


10 posted on 03/31/2014 10:28:23 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: C19fan

“Oh! Let it by my turn,” sayeth the next in line of “conservative” whores, bought off by the “establishment.” We xenophobic rule of law citizens will not accept the cram down. They are playing with fire. You can trot out one “conservative” after another. We have been down this road before, and will not be duped. RULE OF LAW, BABY! All of them. You want my damn taxes? Then enforce the law and legislate for the citizens, not the criminal aliens. Doesn’t say “Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses, yearning to be on te dole.”


11 posted on 03/31/2014 10:30:36 AM PDT by LALALAW (one of the asses who's sick of our "ruling" classes)
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To: C19fan

“Reform will require moral courage and leadership, but it is necessary.”

The only reform needed is to return to enforcement of the laws as they existed in 1963.


12 posted on 03/31/2014 10:43:48 AM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: C19fan

The Jeb Bush Torch Party out pathfinding with the “Christian values” mantra.


13 posted on 03/31/2014 10:56:36 AM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: C19fan
This is a bill to turn this country into a socialist majority nation. In that type of a country the people who read the Wall Street Journal who printed this garbage pay significantly higher taxes. I think the readership of the WSJ should be asked if they want to pay higher taxes for this and if they do then they should put their money where their mouth is or they should tell the WSJ where to go and cancel and take the Investors Business Daily insteade.
14 posted on 03/31/2014 10:57:44 AM PDT by amnestynone (Lindsey Graham is a feckless, duplicitous, treacherous, double dealing backstabbing corksucker.)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard
and aspire to be Americans in the fullest sense.

While this may once have been true for most immigrants, and may still be true of some today, for the most part, this statement is demonstrably false. Look no further than those places where muslims insist on making their communities into Saudi Arabia West, or the La Raza demonstrations from just a few years ago, or "Press 1 for English, 2 for Spanish". These are not the actions or behavior of people who seek to assimilate into American culture, tradition, or political belief.

Sorry, but the majority of immigrants to this country today despise what America is, and what it means, and have no intentions of becoming Americans in any sense, other than getting the goodies handed out by the morons and criminals in our government.

15 posted on 03/31/2014 11:01:45 AM PDT by Sicon ("All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." - G. Orwell)
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To: C19fan
The moral imperative is to recognize, codify and enforce the ownership of property.

Mexico and the people of Mexico do not have a claim to US property, not land, education, medicine, nothing! But such a rational principle could lead to the poor not having a claim on the property of the rich, the sick not having a claim on the property of the healthy and the unions not having a claim on the property of the stock holders.

Such a moral imperative would necessitate the end of political class and the redistribution of wealth by any other means than, inheritance, charity, private activities of economic expansion and commerce.

16 posted on 03/31/2014 11:03:59 AM PDT by DaveyB ("When injustice becomes the law; rebellion becomes duty." - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: C19fan

“Immigration Reform” is a bumper sticker slogan that can mean any damn thing anybody wants it to mean.

The country is in the shape it is because people have bought into these mindless stupid bumper sticker slogans even though they cannot name a SINGLE sitting US Senator.

In the name of mental sloth and a horrifically small attention span we have given this kleptocracy and kakistocracy massive power which they do not merit and are not Constitutionally granted and yet we are unable and unwilling to fight against once they see an opening for their anti-American scams. And it is long past time for that to stop.


17 posted on 03/31/2014 11:12:12 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (At no time was the Obama administration aware of what the Obama administration was doing)
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To: C19fan
The right of any nation to preserve its lands & resources for its own posterity is the moral imperative. Having rights to your own achievements in no ways denies any other peoples' "God-given dignity." The idea is a blatant non-sequitur, and well illustrates how the American corporate community is being led astray by focusing on the relatively irrelevant.

See Another Variation On Demonic Theme.

William Flax

18 posted on 03/31/2014 11:13:00 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: C19fan; Liz; AuntB; La Lydia; sickoflibs; stephenjohnbanker
It's a moral dilemma aright...

What ???

should acknowledge each person's God-given dignity

obeying immigration laws is dignified..

God is into obeying laws..

God loves laws so much He even wrote a few of His own...

Like You SHALL NOT lie Exodus 20:16

If you lie to enter America or to stay you are not an immigrant...

Youre an illegal alien...

and that's not dignified...

19 posted on 03/31/2014 11:20:26 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: C19fan

The Lear jet leftists expect to form the core of the global Green Inner Party. There they will continue to enjoy the finest foods and most advanced gadgets the world has to offer — while deciding your fate for you.

If you work very hard and show them your unwavering loyalty you may be permitted to join the global Green Outer Party. You will be allowed occasional servings of meat - and air conditioning on a rationed basis.

The rest of us will eat beans and swelter — for the good of the planet.


20 posted on 03/31/2014 11:34:44 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: C19fan

WSJ BS! Most voters do not give a rat’s a** about immigration reform or globull warming. Voters are worried about putting food on their own tables. GOP should talk about 0bama’s failures and pin the tail on the donkey.


21 posted on 03/31/2014 11:46:16 AM PDT by forgotten man
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To: C19fan

I wouldn’t subscribe to that rag called the “Wall Street Journal” if it were free.

Rupert Murdoch and his co-horts ruined that paper.


22 posted on 03/31/2014 11:57:32 AM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (I don't want to feel "safe." I want to feel FREE!)
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To: C19fan
While I already responded to this article, above, I must comment further on this comment of yours, which I agree is a logical implication of the WSJ article:

"I can take that statement to its logical conclusion and say we should have zero borders and whoever wants to come here should be allowed."

We have limited lands, limited resources. The essence of sovereignty is the right to use your lands & resources for your own people. It is the ultimate insult to any people, to pretend that they, their generations, history, characteristics & culture, are immaterial. Yet, this basically, is the dogma of the Egalitarian Collectivists, who insist that we must treat all humanity as one entity.

The basic issue, here, is whether Americans have the right to self-determination. The writers, however, seek to disguise it with an obvious red-herring, "each person's God-given dignity." While not everyone exhibits their "God-given dignity"--and some would argue that not even 1% of humanity does--the question has absolutely nothing logically to do, with formulating a reasoned immigration policy to protect the unique interests of the rooted American population. Nothing, whatsoever!

This is somewhat analogous to the stage magician's creation of illusions by getting an audience to focus on the wrong object. Conservatives need to understand the technique, so as not to get suckered into making apologetic arguments, rather than ones that cut to the actual issue.

William Flax

23 posted on 03/31/2014 12:00:39 PM PDT by Ohioan
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation
Rupert Murdoch and his co-horts ruined that paper.

I do not read it often enough, any more, to go along with that broad a statement. But whatever may be said about the Aussie media magnate, good or bad; he is one of the last people anyone should listen to on the subject of immigration.

Is Mr. Murdoch not that oxymoron of a "dual citizen?" How can one serve multiple, but conflicting, allegiances? How can anyone be a conscientious "dual citizen." The concept, logically analyzed, is mind-boggling. Surely it is just another form of that rejection of allegiance, of country, fellow countrymen, and national honor, "a citizen of the world."

This sort of article is the last thing Mr. Murdoch should be promoting. But then, even the intelligent can be led very far astray--particularly when they have already compromised their own honor.

William Flax

24 posted on 03/31/2014 12:09:00 PM PDT by Ohioan
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To: sickoflibs

ugh

it is immoral to the bone


25 posted on 03/31/2014 12:38:09 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: sickoflibs

WSJ has been for open borders for decades so it is not a suprise. If it had been on the other side the WSJ would probably not run it


26 posted on 03/31/2014 12:41:32 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: C19fan

“I can take that statement to its logical conclusion and say we should have zero borders and whoever wants to come here should be allowed.”

Keep going. We should recognize every individual in the world and send them a “living wage” check.


27 posted on 03/31/2014 12:48:06 PM PDT by Zuse
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To: C19fan

Moore replaced Richard Land at the lobbying arm of the SBC as a part of a purge of “conservatives” by “moderates”. Land was, in fact, working with the CFR (he is a member)and the SBC leadership to swing the SBC membership behind a cryptoamnesty proposal. Unfortunately for Land, the new “leadership of the SBC, which thinks it can increase membership by being “theologically conservative” and socially “moderate”, fired Land, primarily for referring to Jackson and Sharpton on his radio show as race pimps. This was unacceptable because the leadership has gone all-in for “diversity” as a way of allegedly attracting more members.

Moore, I understand, worked in the office of Dem congressman earlier in his career and is identified by some who know him as a “moderate” Dem. The Land message on cryptoamnesty wasn’t working because it was not subtle enough. This article is a trial balloon to see if this particular combination misdirection play and pack of lies can get some traction within the ranks of the Happy, Clappy, We-Must-Be-”Nicer”-than-Jesus evangelicals.

If the rank and file don’t clean house at the SBC, it will resemble the PCUSA in about 10-20 years.


28 posted on 03/31/2014 12:53:20 PM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: sickoflibs; fieldmarshaldj; BillyBoy

Ralph Wiggum is clearly more intelligent than Ralph Reed.


29 posted on 03/31/2014 3:47:09 PM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: C19fan

The illegals should be stopped so they stop engaging in a lifestyle of gluttony. They need to be more humble.


30 posted on 03/31/2014 6:04:30 PM PDT by ObamahatesPACoal
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To: Impy

Oh fun, another “Christian” leader who loves illegal aliens.

I must have missed the section of the Bible where Jesus commands his followers to reward people who unlawfully entered their country.

I’ve heard the argument that the Catholic Church officials are promoting illegal aliens because most of them are Catholic so they figure that would fill up the pews on Sunday. The argument makes sense, except all the protestant Christians leaders love illegal aliens just as much. Reed being the latest example.


31 posted on 03/31/2014 6:53:04 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Looking at the weather lately, I could really use some 'global warming' right now!)
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