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Ukraine crisis: Putin 'orders partial withdrawal'
BBC ^ | March 31, 2014

Posted on 03/31/2014 10:14:02 AM PDT by Jim Robinson

Russian President Vladimir Putin has ordered a "partial withdrawal" of troops from the border with Ukraine, the German government has said.

Mr Putin informed Chancellor Angela Merkel of the move in a telephone conversation, according to her office.

Thousands of Russian soldiers are still said to be deployed along the border.

Earlier, Ukraine condemned a visit to Crimea by Russia's Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev and a delegation of government ministers.

A foreign ministry spokesman in Kiev said the highest-level trip to the Black Sea peninsula by officials from Moscow since its annexation by Russia was a "crude violation" of international rules.

A note protesting against the presence of an official in "the territory of another state without preliminary agreement" had been sent, he added.

Crimeans voted to leave Ukraine for Russia on 16 March, in a referendum condemned as illegal by the UN General Assembly.

Mr Medvedev said he would make Crimea a special economic zone. He also vowed to quickly boost salaries and pensions, and to improve education, healthcare and local infrastructure.

'Calmed down'

Russia's decision to annex Crimea has triggered a crisis in relations with the West.

The United States and the European Union have imposed sanctions on members of President Vladimir Putin's inner circle and other officials. Russia has retaliated with its own sanctions on US lawmakers.

US Secretary of State John Kerry has told his Russian counterpart, Sergei Lavrov, that resolving the crisis depended on Russia pulling back its troops from along Ukraine's border.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: obama; putin; russia; uikraine
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Putin got all he wanted at this time. Ball's in Obama's court? Or just a head fake?
1 posted on 03/31/2014 10:14:02 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson

No idea how to answer the questions, Jim. Thankfully, was wrong earlier when I thought the ‘go’ was Sunday a.m. for the troops to invade.


2 posted on 03/31/2014 10:18:05 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Jim Robinson

Sounds like a play out of the DNC. We want the whole Ukraine. Okay, you win. We’ll settle for half.

Or should I say the DNC tactics are right out of the old communist party playbook.


3 posted on 03/31/2014 10:21:14 AM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: Jim Robinson

The next step is up to the US.

Integration of Crimea with Russia though is an irreversible fact, underlined by the visit of the Russian government to Simferopol and Sevastopol today.

The intention is to transform it into a low tax zone like Kaliningrad and Russia will subsidize out of the federal budget, travel to and from Crimea.

Like in the Soviet time, it should again become a summer holiday destination for Russians.


4 posted on 03/31/2014 10:21:21 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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Mr Putin informed Chancellor Angela Merkel of the move in a telephone conversation

Gee, Wally - you mean he didn't call up the Grand Kenyan first?

5 posted on 03/31/2014 10:23:31 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Obama and Kerry are going to crow about standing up to bully Putin and move on from the Ukraine like they did in Syria leaving Ukraine at Putin’s mercy.


6 posted on 03/31/2014 10:26:06 AM PDT by AU72
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To: Jim Robinson
Putin : with Arnold's voice " I'll be back " ..... this is nothing but a trial balloon, a trial run for the real invasion.
Putin is like a cat waiting to pounce at the right time.

7 posted on 03/31/2014 10:30:49 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: Jim Robinson

I think Putin is done annexing Ukraine and is now offering Obama a way to save face, i.e, to claim that he (Obama) successfully defused a potential international crisis.


8 posted on 03/31/2014 10:31:17 AM PDT by be-baw (still seeking)
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To: AU72

I agree. They’ll say the won because they got Putin to do what they wanted him to do and they prevented a nuclear war. And the media will loudly proclaim victory for their master.


9 posted on 03/31/2014 10:32:40 AM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: AU72; All

“Obama and Kerry are going to crow about standing up to bully Putin and move on from the Ukraine like they did in Syria leaving Ukraine at Putin’s mercy.”

Absolutely. As much as I love to see The Boy King FAIL, I’d like it to actually have some CONSEQUENCES for once!

SO tired of the constant @ss-covering for this POS.


10 posted on 03/31/2014 10:46:05 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: goldstategop

Strange you mentioned Kaliningrad because Russia is not offering a referendum there. Everyone I meet from Kaliningrad are quick to point out that there are really from Königsberg as it is really a German town. What If Merkel sends in special forces with bandanas over their faces?


11 posted on 03/31/2014 10:47:34 AM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (...even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: Jim Robinson
Ukraine crisis: Putin 'orders partial withdrawal'

Helping his fellow comrade, comrade Hussein "Frillypants' 0bama, save face?

12 posted on 03/31/2014 10:56:41 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Who but a TYRANT shoves down another man's throat what he has exempted himself from?)
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To: goldstategop

Dear, dear Comrade Putin, defender of summer holiday destinations.


13 posted on 03/31/2014 11:01:23 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Jim Robinson

one possibility — pro-Moscow insurgency inside Ukraine will accomplish the same thing as a Russian invasion.


14 posted on 03/31/2014 11:07:54 AM PDT by kingattax (America needs more real Americans.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Obama paid Iran a lot of $$$$ to make them pull back a little while in the nuclear program.

I wonder if Putin saw this and demanded Obama pay him off to not invade.


15 posted on 03/31/2014 11:14:44 AM PDT by MNDude
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To: Jim Robinson

Putin appears to cut a deal with Merkel, while blowing off 0bama. Merkel empowered, 0bama marginalized, NATO fractured.

You gotta admit, that Putin guy knows how to play the game.


16 posted on 03/31/2014 11:35:02 AM PDT by henkster (I don't like bossy women telling me what words I can't use.)
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To: Monterrosa-24

My understanding is that the Russians sent out some feelers to the Germans about taking Kaliningrad off their hands. The Germans said “no thanks.” The Soviets used Kaliningrad as their toxic waste dump. Nobody wants it now.


17 posted on 03/31/2014 11:36:44 AM PDT by henkster (I don't like bossy women telling me what words I can't use.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Strange-
my future father-in-law ordered a
“full withdrawal”, not a partial withdrawal,
coz I was almost crossing the border into no-man`s land.


18 posted on 03/31/2014 11:46:00 AM PDT by bunkerhill7 ("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.")
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To: Jim Robinson

Damn Putin is playing this perfectly.


19 posted on 03/31/2014 11:50:27 AM PDT by montag813
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To: Jim Robinson

Partial is not full. Set your snooze alarm for May 25th. I am willing to bet we’ll see plenty of ‘drills’ from the Russian military between now and then. The election results and any unrest that may or may not happen will be key. A lot can happen between now and then.


20 posted on 03/31/2014 11:51:01 AM PDT by edpc (Wilby 2016)
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To: Izzy Dunne

Maybe he did but mac daddy was to busy planning his next $600,000,000.00 tax payer vacation.


21 posted on 03/31/2014 11:51:32 AM PDT by chiefqc
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To: Jim Robinson

Shell game. “Not under this one.”


22 posted on 03/31/2014 11:53:25 AM PDT by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: Jim Robinson

I think Putin is copying the Dems and beating them at their own game:

So something or float an idea. Outrage erupts to the point of “almost” doing something.

Lie about the whole thing. Public calms down.

Make your next move that is even further towards your ultimate goal.


23 posted on 03/31/2014 12:02:04 PM PDT by my small voice (A biased media and an uneducated populace is the biggest threat to our nation.)
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To: Jim Robinson
Russia counts economic cost of Crimea intervention
24 posted on 03/31/2014 12:40:15 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Jim Robinson
Russia’s military is the largest in the region, but it isn’t the same force as in Soviet times
25 posted on 03/31/2014 12:47:34 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: henkster
Putin appears to cut a deal with Merkel, while blowing off 0bama. Merkel empowered, 0bama marginalized, NATO fractured.

Divide and conquer. The NATO leaders may not like Putin, they may not trust him, but they feel they're better off dealing directly with him rather than rely on Obama. They have no confidence whatsoever in Obama, and no reason to think he has their back.

26 posted on 03/31/2014 12:49:08 PM PDT by GreenHornet
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To: andyk
Or should I say the DNC tactics are right out of the old communist party playbook.

Now you got it...

27 posted on 03/31/2014 12:54:45 PM PDT by pgkdan
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To: Jim Robinson

Just to prove that he can come and go as he pleases...


28 posted on 03/31/2014 12:56:26 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Support Free Republic!!!)
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To: GreenHornet

Which is why Putin and Lavrov are laughing over drinks in the Kremlin, saying “It can’t be THIS easy!”


29 posted on 03/31/2014 12:57:19 PM PDT by henkster (I don't like bossy women telling me what words I can't use.)
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To: goldstategop

What this whole episode really shows is that NATO is finished as an organization. Putin has found that out.


30 posted on 03/31/2014 1:00:59 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: henkster

“Putin appears to cut a deal with Merkel, while blowing off 0bama. Merkel empowered, 0bama marginalized, NATO fractured.”

absolutely correct! and right along the lines that Professor Mead suggested at the end of this essay - that Putin would attempt to drive a wedge between USA and european nato countries

http://www.the-american-interest.com/wrm/2014/03/15/putin-the-mask-comes-off-but-will-anybody-care/


31 posted on 03/31/2014 1:06:39 PM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Josey Wales asks: How is it with stains ?)
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To: Izzy Dunne

Expect an unending stream of praise for The One for stopping WWIII and for making Putin back down.


32 posted on 03/31/2014 1:17:46 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: Reverend Wright

“Putin would attempt to drive a wedge between USA and european nato countries.”

That had been the Holy Grail of Soviet foreign policy. It took the election of 0bama to finally make it possible.

Think about that.


33 posted on 03/31/2014 1:29:05 PM PDT by henkster (I don't like bossy women telling me what words I can't use.)
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To: Jim Robinson
IMHO, Putin has all he wanted in the Ukraine. He'll take what they let fall into his lap, though, and he no doubt figures more will fall into his lap.

He'll now play rope a dope by causing potential problems for the EU until EU stops bothering to have the US as a part of the various negotiations to calm down one thing after another.

Once the US and the EU are no longer joined at the hip I bet old Vlad will become the epitome of a reasonable guy. A European among Europeans with the US clearly not a member of the club.

34 posted on 03/31/2014 1:44:58 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: be-baw

Putin is doing what he wanted to do from day one.

He knew that the West would be satisfied if only he stopped at Crimea. Putin feigns the move into Ukraine proper, the West gets angst, and then he pulls back. There, crisis averted, the West returns to happy talk.

Crimea? What’s this about Crimea?


35 posted on 03/31/2014 2:09:43 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Immigration Reform is job NONE. It isn't even the leading issue with Hipanics. Enforce our laws.)
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To: henkster

Yep but Obama will claim credit for making mean ol PutiPut back down eve though he was irrelevent.


36 posted on 03/31/2014 2:20:52 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: plain talk

And everyone else in the world of international diplomacy will know he’s lying. He has no credibility. People who have no credibility have no allies; everyone will look to cut their own deals.

We’re pretty much on our own.


37 posted on 03/31/2014 2:28:30 PM PDT by henkster (I don't like bossy women telling me what words I can't use.)
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To: Jim Robinson

All this statement means is that, the guys that drove the supply trucks to the border, have now unloaded them, and are returning to their bases to pick up another load.


38 posted on 03/31/2014 2:31:53 PM PDT by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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To: Jim Robinson

From what I gather Obama made a deal with Saudi Arabia, if Russia invades, we release strategic oil reserves and Saudi Arabia lowers the price of gas drastically, this would crash the Russian economy (McCain is right on this, Russia is basically a gas station). It seems that Putin took the threat seriously, though he is by no means done. The Saudi end in this is that they will be selling our anti-aircraft weapons to the Jihadist rebels in Syria.

If this is true, then this is the first real Presidential action Obama has done while in office, almost certainly not his idea. Still, one day we will pay for selling advanced weaponry to Islamist cutthroats.


39 posted on 03/31/2014 2:40:13 PM PDT by BurningOak (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2830849/reply?c=1)
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To: henkster

Most of us americans are to ignorant of history to remember the german-soviet nonaggresion pact of 1939. Obama isn’t American, but I’m sure he doesn’t know either.


40 posted on 03/31/2014 2:42:37 PM PDT by kneehurts
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To: Jim Robinson

Putin’s nameless security forces inside the Ukrainian uprising have the ball. It’s an economy of force measure with an additional benefit of appearing less threatening while the consolidation of power is underway.


41 posted on 03/31/2014 2:49:48 PM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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Russian President Vladimir Putin has ordered a “partial withdrawal” of troops from the border with Ukraine>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

But Putin is massing troops on the border of Finland.Only the half truth of MSM myopia here in this thread article.

Putin is hitting every alarm chime he can.


42 posted on 03/31/2014 3:33:31 PM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: Jim Robinson

obama probably said, “Help me out here, bud! We’re on the same team in the long run. Just give me a little concession so I can pump my numbers back up.”


43 posted on 03/31/2014 3:35:27 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault
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To: Izzy Dunne
Mr Putin informed Chancellor Angela Merkel of the move in a telephone conversation

Merkel had and used actual leverage. Perhaps she said that Germany was willing to forego Russian gas even if it meant buying LNG at exorbitant prices, knowing that it would cause hardship for Germany but the end of Russia's economy. Russia depends more on Germany than vice-versa, and Putin knows it.

In other words, Putin respects Merkel and Germany. In contrast, he brushes Obama off like a piece of lint.

44 posted on 03/31/2014 4:14:02 PM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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To: BurningOak
If true, my guess is that this isn't a plan that 0bama came up with, but the Saudis instead. I question it, though. The Russians' real money is in gas. The Saudis don't produce that much.

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45 posted on 03/31/2014 4:14:57 PM PDT by henkster (I don't like bossy women telling me what words I can't use.)
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To: BurningOak
If this is true, then this is the first real Presidential action Obama has done while in office, almost certainly not his idea. Still, one day we will pay for selling advanced weaponry to Islamist cutthroats.

The arms US sends to Saudis wind up in the hands of jihadis regardless.

However, I think that the real threat to Putin came from Merkel, not from Obama nor the Saudis. If she just flat-out said that she's willing to cut out Russian Natural Gas and instead have Germans pay an arm and a leg for imported natural gas, there isn't much Putin can do about it. While Russia is a big oil exporter, gas is its most significant export in terms of market share.

46 posted on 03/31/2014 4:38:23 PM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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To: andyk
Sounds like a play out of the DNC. We want the whole Ukraine. Okay, you win. We’ll settle for half.

The MSM will build this up as a victory for Obama. Sadly many if not most Americans will buy it.

47 posted on 03/31/2014 5:02:32 PM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (See my home page for some of my answers to the left's talking points.)
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To: 1rudeboy
Dear, dear Comrade Putin, defender of summer holiday destinations.

LOL.

48 posted on 03/31/2014 8:03:57 PM PDT by FreeReign
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" pro- Moscow Obama insurgency inside Ukraine will accomplish the same thing as a Russian invasion. " ...

There now, fixed.
49 posted on 03/31/2014 8:12:06 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: Jim Robinson

Sounds like pooties oligarchs want to start travelling to the French Riviera again and access their foreign bank accounts. Nothing like a little capitalism to fix a tyrant.


50 posted on 04/01/2014 12:34:35 AM PDT by AnAmericanInEngland
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