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GOP Hawks Worry Rand Paul Has Too Much Ron
Time ^ | March 31, 2014 | Zeke J Miller

Posted on 03/31/2014 12:35:04 PM PDT by C19fan

Kentucky Senator Rand Paul is hard at work laying the groundwork for an almost certain presidential campaign in 2016, but as he broadens his support among libertarian and younger voters, there’s a budding countercampaign to take him down if he becomes a threat to actually win the nomination. At the Republican Jewish Coalition (RJC) meeting in Las Vegas this weekend, Paul was nowhere to be found, but his presence was felt in the form of a straw man — and frequent worry. Speaker after speaker, from former Florida governor Jeb Bush to New Jersey Governor Chris Christie, laid into Paul’s more isolationist views on foreign policy. They never mentioned the lawmaker by name, but the message came across loud and clear.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Israel; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2016; apple; isolationist; libtardian; neo; paul; randpaul
The Neo-Cons are already pushing the Dauphin Bush and are starting going to go after Rand. For example, the so-called conservative at WaPo Jennifer Rubin, wrote a new hit piece on Rand:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2014/03/30/rand-paul-trashed-military-option-for-iran-and-blamed-the-u-s-for-wwii/

1 posted on 03/31/2014 12:35:04 PM PDT by C19fan
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To: C19fan

Is it a hit piece because it quotes Rand? I don’t think he’d say that.


2 posted on 03/31/2014 12:37:47 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom.)
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To: C19fan

Well at least Rand Paul vigorously opposes dumping the Tomahawk missiles. A good move.


3 posted on 03/31/2014 12:38:38 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: C19fan

So why are Jewish leaders so anxious for the USA to get into war? If they think God is with them, they don’t need us. If God is not with them, we can’t help. AD 70 happened.


4 posted on 03/31/2014 12:46:02 PM PDT by ex-snook (God forgives and forgets.)
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To: C19fan

I have never trusted this guy. Palin Yes, Cruz so far so good but not Pauls boy. NO way!


5 posted on 03/31/2014 12:50:48 PM PDT by carjic (Fed up!)
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To: C19fan

Jeb Bush at the RJC???

I thought Republicans didn’t like ‘separatist’ groups, and only the Democrats were allowed to have separate-other-than-just-one-word-American-caucuses?

Any “possible contender” that shows there, ain’t got my interest at heart.


6 posted on 03/31/2014 12:52:04 PM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: C19fan

I worry Jeb has too much George W. and tax raising Daddy. I will never vote for another Bush.


7 posted on 03/31/2014 1:00:12 PM PDT by SADMILLIE
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To: C19fan

While I loathe the neocons (they have ruined a Nation), Paul is irrelevant.

Of course, the Cons are now pushing another puppet in Bush.


8 posted on 03/31/2014 1:06:08 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: C19fan

Rand Paul is the real deal. If he were to run on a position of eliminating foreign aid, he’d win in a landslide.

How about, no more wars where American blood, limbs and lives are squandered for no vital American interests. While maintaining the best trained, best equipped, and best paid military in our history.

Rand Paul is a hawk. He’s just not a rabid hawk. He’s an intelligent hawk. He’s a thrifty hawk. He supports a strong national defense, about this there is no doubt.

Rand Paul: “I believe that defending this country is the primary and most important Constitutional function of our federal government”

Rand Paul: “I believe that the primary Constitutional function of the federal government is national defense, bar none. I believe that when we must go to war, we must have a Congressional declaration of war as the Constitution mandates, and we fight to win. And we must fight only under U.S. command and not the UN.”


9 posted on 03/31/2014 1:06:19 PM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: RIghtwardHo

And if the ‘Cons can’t get Jeb Bush they’ll settle for Marco Rubio or Paul Ryan.


10 posted on 03/31/2014 1:07:53 PM PDT by Pelham (If you do not deport it is amnesty by default.)
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To: Pelham

Ted Cruz or Sarah Palin are the only ones I really want to vote for


11 posted on 03/31/2014 1:10:26 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: faucetman

amnesty will bankrupt us and his attacks on social issues make him a bad candidate


12 posted on 03/31/2014 1:13:17 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: C19fan
Never forget how the GOP-E operates...

Next for GOP leaders: Stopping Sarah Palin

13 posted on 03/31/2014 1:15:46 PM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: C19fan

It appears that they will be going after Rand Paul with the same venom that they employed on Pat Buchanan when he was deemed insufficiently dedicated to world empire.

Other then John McCain I can’t think of any of the neocon gang who have put their own hides on the line. A lot them have always had soft professions. Few of these ‘hawks’ seem to have any connection to the military so casualties aren’t going to affect their own homes.

Maybe we should bring back the draft, that has a way of focusing the public mind on the cost of foreign adventurism.


14 posted on 03/31/2014 1:27:23 PM PDT by Pelham (If you do not deport it is amnesty by default.)
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To: GeronL

Ted Cruz looks promising so far. I think Palin hurt her chances when she wouldn’t make a serious run last time.


15 posted on 03/31/2014 1:29:24 PM PDT by Pelham (If you do not deport it is amnesty by default.)
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To: faucetman

>>How about, no more wars where American blood, limbs and lives are squandered for no vital American interests. While maintaining the best trained, best equipped, and best paid military in our history.<<

Compared to our current leader, that sounds like a real improvement.


16 posted on 03/31/2014 1:31:35 PM PDT by Norseman (Defund the Left-Completely!)
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To: C19fan

I’m not particularly bothered (if at all) by Rand’s foreign policy as I am about him being too wobbly/libertarian on issues of amnesty, dope and fag-marriage.

Those last three issues are killers for me.


17 posted on 03/31/2014 1:32:00 PM PDT by greene66
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To: C19fan; Jim Robinson
Here's what JimRob has to say on the subject of Rand Paul. I agree.

Sorry, pal. He’s a light in the loafers amnesty pusher and RINO loving surrender monkey.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3133629/posts?page=184#184

18 posted on 03/31/2014 1:33:24 PM PDT by lonevoice (We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality)
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To: lonevoice

Thank you.


19 posted on 03/31/2014 1:36:02 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Rand isn’t nearly as far out as his dad; but he goes too far in that direction for my tastes. Both are pretty good on domestic policy, but anything outside our borders....


20 posted on 03/31/2014 1:36:49 PM PDT by logic101.net (How many more children must die on the altar of gun control?)
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To: Pelham
"It appears that they will be going after Rand Paul with the same venom that they employed on Pat Buchanan when he was deemed insufficiently dedicated to world empire."

In which case Paul is doomed. The war hustlers are everywhere. We need another Eisenhower.

21 posted on 03/31/2014 1:37:30 PM PDT by ex-snook (God forgives and forgets.)
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To: C19fan

If Jeb Bush or Christi Kream are the nominees, a lot of conservatives will stay home on election day. Instead of donating to the GOP, use that money for ammo and supplies for your bunker.


22 posted on 03/31/2014 1:43:27 PM PDT by RicocheT (Where neither their property nor their honor is touched, most men live content, Niccolo Machiavelli)
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To: ex-snook

“We need another Eisenhower. “

Isn’t that the truth. The old General knew how to use our strength while keeping us out of war. IIRC he ended the Korean War by simply making it known that he was willing to use nuclear weapons if the Chinese didn’t reign in North Korea.

Ike was a President who believed that sending American troops to fight a land war in Asia was a serious mistake. Advice that John Kennedy and Lyndon Johnson should have heeded. But they didn’t, and as usual it was little people, average Americans, who ended up paying the price in blood for that one.

The neocon gang is the polar opposite of Dwight Eisenhower. Almost none of them have any military experience, and certainly not in combat arms. What I do notice is that some of them imagine themselves to be heirs of Winston Churchill, and they are dreaming of the chance to send the American army to win themselves glory.


23 posted on 03/31/2014 1:48:49 PM PDT by Pelham (If you do not deport it is amnesty by default.)
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To: C19fan
"...from former Florida governor Jeb Bush to New Jersey Governor Chris Christie"...

Think there are a couple of words missing.

Let's try this:"... from former Florida governor (and certain LOSER) Jeb Bush to New Jersey Governor (and probable LOSER) Chris Christie..."

24 posted on 03/31/2014 2:14:51 PM PDT by DJ Frisat (Proudly providing the NSA with provocative textual content since 1995!)
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To: trisham

You’re very welcome. :)


25 posted on 03/31/2014 2:26:18 PM PDT by lonevoice (We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality)
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To: faucetman

He supports a strong national defense, about this there is no doubt.

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Really? I cannot believe that someone who advocates amnesty for illegal aliens has the defense of our nation at heart.


26 posted on 03/31/2014 2:48:41 PM PDT by Bigg Red (1 Pt 1: As he who called you is holy, be holy yourselves in every aspect of your conduct.)
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To: ex-snook

Because they’re too lazy to fight (and die) for their own existence. They want to co-opt lots of goys to shed blood for their interests.

This is why I increasingly think conservatives should stop supporting Israel. If the vast majority of Jews are going to vote for the Democrats, then let the Democratic Party own the problem of Israel and the wars to prop up Israel. That’s where the Jews are voting ... and those votes aren’t about to come back to the GOP for doing their bidding.

So give them what they want, good and hard.


27 posted on 03/31/2014 2:58:40 PM PDT by NVDave
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To: Pelham; ex-snook
“We need another Eisenhower. “

Eisenhower had the right vision for both foreign policy and immigration policy. He maintained a strong defense, kept us out of needless wars, and wasn't afraid to deport illegal invaders. As you say, his good sense, realism, and honor were the polar opposites of neoconservatism.

28 posted on 03/31/2014 3:09:27 PM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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To: Pelham
Other then John McCain I can’t think of any of the neocon gang who have put their own hides on the line. A lot them have always had soft professions. Few of these ‘hawks’ seem to have any connection to the military so casualties aren’t going to affect their own homes.

McCain wasn't always on board with the neocons. I didn't follow his politics very closely until he became a Presidential contender in 2000, but I vaguely remember his being on the side of restraint in foreign policy earlier in his career. He signed on to the neoconservative foreign policy agenda opportunistically, like so many of his other current positions.

29 posted on 03/31/2014 3:12:28 PM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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