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Teaching Tolerance
Slate ^ | 3/30/2014

Posted on 03/31/2014 6:01:45 PM PDT by Altura Ct.

Last summer, my family moved from Brooklyn to a small town in the Hudson Valley. We love our new life, but one thing about the community is not so great: It’s predominantly white. What will it mean in the long run if my white children don’t see and befriend people who come from different racial backgrounds? And are there steps I can take to instill racial sensitivity and acceptance in my kids despite the fact that they’re growing up in an ethnic bubble?

To find out, I dug into research on the causes of racial bias and talked to developmental and social psychologists, race-relations researchers, and Africologists. The good news is that the answer seems to be yes—there are things I can do to keep my kids from harboring racial prejudice. Namely, I can talk to them about race.

First, a caveat: I’m writing this article as a white parent with white kids living in a mostly white neighborhood. I know that my experiences, perspectives, and considerations differ markedly from those of parents with different ethnic backgrounds living in different situations, and I also realize that I know nothing about the racial landscape that minority parents have to navigate with their kids. For many minority parents, talking about race is not an option—it’s essential in helping their children move through a world that sees a “black kid” and not just a kid. Although I talked to researchers with diverse backgrounds while reporting my piece, I’m guessing that my findings and advice will apply predominantly to white parents like me. Still, I would love to hear from all readers on the issues discussed in this column, so please, send your thoughts, advice, and feedback to melindawmoyer@gmail.com.

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Another white hating moron.
1 posted on 03/31/2014 6:01:45 PM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: Altura Ct.

Leave it to a liberal Democrat parent to not know how to raise a kid to not hate other people.


2 posted on 03/31/2014 6:03:45 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Play the 'Knockout Game' with someone owning a 9mm and you get what you deserve)
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To: VeniVidiVici

Maybe we could come up with a way to mix kids in the public schools. We could call it “bussing”.

:-P


3 posted on 03/31/2014 6:09:13 PM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: Altura Ct.
More BS from another moron.

I apologize for wasting my time and yours.

FMCDH(BITS)

4 posted on 03/31/2014 6:09:17 PM PDT by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: Altura Ct.

Tolerance:
“The Virtue of having a belief in NOTHING!!


5 posted on 03/31/2014 6:09:24 PM PDT by eyeamok
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To: VeniVidiVici

You should dump your children once a week in an inner city so they can understand diversity.


6 posted on 03/31/2014 6:09:44 PM PDT by Craftmore
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To: Altura Ct.

Wonder why the lib moved out of Brooklyn? My guess is he did not like all of the issues that came with the urban environment and the multicultural issues of the city. Now he doesn’t want his kids to know.


7 posted on 03/31/2014 6:10:32 PM PDT by gunnut
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To: gunnut

Excellent point. The author moved to get their kids away from the “diversity” of urban life. He will not be heard to complain.


8 posted on 03/31/2014 6:14:19 PM PDT by henkster (I don't like bossy women telling me what words I can't use.)
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To: Altura Ct.
Last summer, my family moved from Brooklyn to a small town in the Hudson Valley.

Ms. Wenner Moyer (the author) doesn't say WHY her family moved.

And are we to believe more diverse neighborhoods weren't available to move to? Just how important could "diversity" be to her, if she chose a place so ... um... "white" in which to settle.

Unless she's like so many liberals -- loves to bemoan her "whiteness" while simultaneously (unconsciously?) seeking it out. For SOME reason.

9 posted on 03/31/2014 6:14:27 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1!)
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To: Altura Ct.

Extended race cringe by some White doofus.


10 posted on 03/31/2014 6:18:12 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: Altura Ct.

What she is advocating amounts to child abuse. Her kids will grow up ignorant of racial realities and will easy prey for feral blacks because they will ignore any red flags about their presence or character for fear of being “racist”.


11 posted on 03/31/2014 6:20:06 PM PDT by Uncle Lonny
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To: gunnut

“Wonder why the lib moved out of Brooklyn?”

Cost of living. Rents in most Brooklyn neighborhoods (any of the neighborhoods the author is likely to have lived in, anyway) are absolutely insane. Forget about buying a place.


12 posted on 03/31/2014 6:25:28 PM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Altura Ct.

“We love our new life, but one thing about the community is not so great: It’s predominantly white.”

Well, that’s racist. If liberal racists like this author don’t like white people then perhaps they should practice some form of self-segregation.

Granted I’d prefer a world where people weren’t discriminated against, insulted for, or profiled because of, their whiteness. Truly, it would be nice if bigots like the article’s author didn’t run around judging people because of their race and simply accept being a member of a community regardless of the color of said community.

But I’m a realist and I can admit that life-long racists like this article’s author aren’t going to be swayed by facts, moral appeals, or positive personal experiences with white people. Given the intractability of white-hating liberals, I’m willing to accept as a solution the feasible expedient of encouraging said hatemongers to relocate to their own small-minded, hateful, dysfunctional communities. Better still if such communities are in another nation, so we don’t have to listen to their incessant racist whining or deal with the political and economic fallout from their schizophrenic social policies.


13 posted on 03/31/2014 6:27:36 PM PDT by jameslalor
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

If that’s the case — and I don’t doubt it — one must really question the author’s sincerity about diversity. There must be dozens, or hundreds, of places she and her family could have moved where “diversity” is the name of the game. But they chose a “white” place. Hmmm. I may have to email her myself.


14 posted on 03/31/2014 6:28:37 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1!)
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To: Altura Ct.

“Africologists?”

Oh, for God’s Sake, will these leftoids ever stop??


15 posted on 03/31/2014 6:33:13 PM PDT by Bon of Babble (Don't want to brag...but I can still fit into the earrings I wore in high school!!)
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To: Bon of Babble

“befriend”? The guy is heavly into white mans burdon.

CC


16 posted on 03/31/2014 6:38:34 PM PDT by Captain Compassion
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To: Altura Ct.

Dear Reader, we absolutely adore our life in the lily white suburb here! It’s so much fun! Less crime! Less risk! Yet what do I do about guilt, that we moved to a pure snowy white place, and enjoy it so much? Is there a quick, speedy way to get my kids used to all races, without having to place them into such a situation? Could we maybe pay a monthly sum to have an ethnic token visit our home? Or would watching certain TV shows or listening to certain music do the trick? Thanks.


17 posted on 03/31/2014 6:38:50 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Altura Ct.

“What will it mean in the long run if my white children don’t see and befriend people who come from different racial backgrounds?”

Not a thing. I grew up in a town of less than 10,000. From kindergarten through high school there were no blacks in our community, not one. A few Indians from the reservation and a handful of Mexicans was as ethnic as we got. The first black people I ever met were in boot camp. That included several of the drill sergeants so I did the best I could to get along with everybody. I still do.

Whites, Blacks, Filipinos, Polish, Jews, poor Southern Whites who couldn’t sign their own papers, college grads and big dumb oafs from all walks of life, thrown together in an old wooden barracks for two months, sleeping cheek by jowl in metal bunk beds. Tolerance and stand your ground, you learned both. I don’t know why people make such a big out of it.


18 posted on 03/31/2014 6:50:18 PM PDT by beelzepug (if any alphabets are watchin', I'll be coming home right after the meetin')
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To: Altura Ct.

Reminds me of Michael Moore who lives in a 96% white neighborhood.

Why should these lefty limousine liberal hypocrites advise us about anything.


19 posted on 03/31/2014 6:53:57 PM PDT by Bon of Babble (The dogs bark; the caravan moves on!)
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To: gunnut

Nobody moves to an area like that without knowing the stats.


20 posted on 03/31/2014 7:06:26 PM PDT by ImaGraftedBranch (...By reading this, you've collapsed my wave function. Thanks.)
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To: Yaelle
Is there a quick, speedy way to get my kids used to all races,

have them get jobs in the Department of Corrections...

21 posted on 03/31/2014 7:07:03 PM PDT by terycarl (common sense prevails over all else)
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To: Altura Ct.
“We love our new life, but one thing about the community is not so great: It’s predominantly white.”

If living in a heavily mixed race community is so important to these airheaded liberals why did they pick one of the few remaining Hudson Valley communities that hasn't been overrun with Holders People and Moochers?

There are many (maybe too many) small Hudson Valley communities chock full of the kind of diversity they seem to miss.


22 posted on 03/31/2014 7:07:18 PM PDT by Iron Munro (The future ain't what it use to be -- Yogi Berra)
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To: Altura Ct.

Dear Melinda Wenner Moyer,

Your problem is an easy one to solve.

Sell out and move to Detroit or Dearborne.


23 posted on 03/31/2014 7:20:09 PM PDT by Iron Munro (The future ain't what it use to be -- Yogi Berra)
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To: Altura Ct.

Yes. I’ve never understood the urge for racial self-flagellation. I live amongst decent people. All else is superfluous mental masturbation.


24 posted on 03/31/2014 7:21:23 PM PDT by HMS Surprise (Chris Christie can STILL go straight to hell.)
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To: Iron Munro

I suspect that this lady has moved to a nice white town and is having guilt feelings, so she is advertising a desire to ‘diverse’.


25 posted on 03/31/2014 7:26:53 PM PDT by expat2
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To: Iron Munro

I suspect that this lady has moved to a nice white town and is having guilt feelings, so she is advertising a desire to ‘diverse’.


26 posted on 03/31/2014 7:27:21 PM PDT by expat2
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To: workerbee
What will it mean in the long run if my white children don’t see and befriend people who come from different racial backgrounds?

Ummmm, we 'befriend' people 'in need' or who are 'inferior'. Creepy. I could hardly get past the sentence - so insulting and condescending...

Who wants to bet these liberal elites love traveling to third world countries - and can't get enough of 'sharing' with their friends how brave and POOR the people are... and the horrible little shacks they live in... and the dirty water...

27 posted on 03/31/2014 8:10:04 PM PDT by GOPJ (http://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2012/12/12/u-s-physicist-tom-fife-obama-was-groomed-to-be-president-)
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To: beelzepug
Not a thing. I grew up in a town of less than 10,000. From kindergarten through high school there were no blacks in our community, not one. A few Indians from the reservation and a handful of Mexicans was as ethnic as we got. The first black people I ever met were in boot camp...

You might be interested in my experience since it has some parallels. I grew up in the city of Birmingham, Alabama. The city and the state were very much racially divided; there were many blacks and some Hispanics but they stayed in their section of town and we stayed in ours, i.e., there was an understanding. Every one of my classmates from kindergarten through high school was white, and by that I mean no blacks, no Latinos. The only time I interacted with blacks and Latinos was in the three years I served in the U.S. military. When I got out I returned to Alabama and went through college. Again, no blacks, no Latinos, straight through graduation in 1966.

In other words, your experience was based on living in an all-white community whereas mine was based on living in a segregated community. Of course, it's no longer that way. I think the colleges in Alabama integrated maybe two years after I graduated.

28 posted on 03/31/2014 8:12:47 PM PDT by OldPossum ("It's" is the contraction of "it" and "is"; think about ITS implications.)
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To: Altura Ct.

Perhaps she should have moved to Harlem.


29 posted on 03/31/2014 8:13:59 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: Altura Ct.

I can’t wait to find out what happens when the author finds out the nice couple with the sweet kids who live down the street are *GASP* Christians! And Republicans!

I’ll bet she’s so tolerant that she’ll insult the family to their faces in front of her children.


30 posted on 03/31/2014 8:21:05 PM PDT by JeffChrz (2014--still the best idiots money can buy.)
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To: Altura Ct.

Tolerance is the virtue of believing in nothing.


31 posted on 03/31/2014 8:23:23 PM PDT by jmacusa
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To: Altura Ct.

blacks live in mostly black areas and i doubt none of them sit there thinking how “not great” it is there aren’t more non-blacks in their neighborhoods.


32 posted on 03/31/2014 10:10:41 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Altura Ct.

Although the writer may have moved to the east side of the Hudson, the first town that popped in my head is on the west side of the Hudson; Pearl River, in Rockland County. ALWAYS known as ‘Lily White Pearl River’. A lot of NYC cops and firemen live there.

The next town I thought of is Stony Point, also in Rockland County, also home to a lot of NYC PD and FD. Also pretty white still, lots of ‘Asians’ these days, and too close to Haverstraw, which homes many gangbangers and general low lifes.

THAT said, I have lived in both of these towns, for over 40 years combined.

Back in the 90’s when my kids were little I decided to replant us in Highland Falls, Orange County NY, BECAUSE of the diversity. Whites, blacks, West Pointers... I imagined a great melting pot of love and everyone singing ‘Kumbya’.

Well. That didn’t happen.

There were terrific families of all stripes, but the mayor at the time needed to stay in office, and he opened the Section 8 program and advertised in the worst places around us. And the worst people came for the free housing and the drives to the polling stations.

Everyone knew who the drug dealers were - the deals took place on Main St, in front of the Post Office and across from the Town Hall. Word was, the State Popo (known as The Ivory Tower of Albany) said ‘leave them alone, Highland Falls is drug hub and we need to know where the stuff comes from and goes to’. ..... Yeah. OK.

My kids grew up with a few nice black people, but mostly aggressive, abusive, drug dealing black people. The West Point kids were ok, but their poop didn’t stink as much as the Townies.

The black kids disrupted class and accosted one of my kids on more than one occasion, the West Pointers got all the favors, and the locals whose parents paid the insane school taxes took a back seat to it all. If I could have afforded to move back to Lily White Pearl River I would have. I am damned sorry I didn’t.

The writer of this article knew damned well where their family was moving to, and HAD to post an apologetic article about ‘Oh! The people here are so white!’.

My advice? ‘SHUT UP, and be glad you moved to nice neighborhood. Try not to screw it up’.


33 posted on 03/31/2014 10:16:13 PM PDT by CaptainPhilFan
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OH! WAIT! HANG ON!!!!

I just noticed at the end of the article that she is ‘based in Cold Spring, NY’.

Right across the Hudson River from Highland Falls, you cannot get ANY whiter than Cold Spring. Expensive, clean, cliquish... think of an ‘exclusive’ golf or country club.

And she expects anyone who knows the place to be surprised at the lack of color on her neighbors.

Oh! LOL! ROTFLOL!!!

Buy a place in Aryan Country and then lecture about teaching your kids that people of color are worthy of friendship.

Oh, eff you, Melinda Wenner Moyer, you liberal, white hypocrite, eff you.


34 posted on 03/31/2014 10:29:02 PM PDT by CaptainPhilFan
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To: Altura Ct.

The “Slate” author of this item, Melinda, is a total idiot!

In my entire school years in Dallas, there were only a couple of Mexicans in Elem school, a couple in Jr-Hi and a hand-full in Sr-Hi. There were no blacks.

My grandparents lived and had a corner grocery in South Dallas (mostly black and Mexican). I spent several weeks with them every Summer as a kid and me and the other kids all got along just fine. There were no racial biases apparent. Most of the store’s customers were black or Mexican and I often carried the sack of groceries to the houses of black ladies (they would tip me a nickle).

IMO, if people would just stop emphasizing that various ethnicities and races are not compatible with each other, the small kids will just grow up to accept others that are not just like them.


35 posted on 04/01/2014 12:14:00 AM PDT by octex
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To: CaptainPhilFan

Yes, the Hudson Valley is a real mixed bag. Knew some people in Pearl River years ago; I nice little place that has certainly gone up in value. Stony Point is nice, too; the proximity to NYC has made these places very expensive.

If this author wanted diversity in the Hudson Valley, he could have moved to Poughkeepsie or Newburgh; then he wouldn’t feel guilty about sheltering his kids from “diversity”.

Mike Tyson and Tawana Brawley are products of Hudson Valley diversity...


36 posted on 04/01/2014 3:31:04 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: expat2
I suspect that this lady has moved to a nice white town and is having guilt feelings, so she is advertising a desire to ‘diverse’.

Of course just talkng about it will make it okay - that proves she really cares.


37 posted on 04/01/2014 6:39:50 AM PDT by Iron Munro (The future ain't what it use to be -- Yogi Berra)
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