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Historians’ Explosive Claim: They’ve Found the Holy Grail
The Blaze ^ | 31 March 2014 | Billy Hallowell

Posted on 03/31/2014 6:43:57 PM PDT by Fractal Trader

Spanish historians claim they’ve discovered the 2,000-year-old Holy Chalice, the biblical cup that Jesus Christ used during the Last Supper.

Margarita Torres, a medieval history lecturer at León University and Jose Ortiza del Rio, an art historian, penned a new book claiming that years of research has led them to conclude that Christ’s chalice is somehow inside a medieval goblet that has been on display in Spain for 1,000 years, Daily Mail reported.

Residing inside the Basilica of San Isidoro, a church in Spain that is located on the site of an ancient Roman temple, the goblet — known as the Infanta Dona Urraca — belonged to Queen Urraca, who died in A.D. 1126.

Historians Explosive Claim: Theyve Found the Holy Grail Two employees of of the museum and a guest (L) watch what was known until now as the goblet of the Infanta Dona Urraca — daughter of Fernando I, King of Leon from 1037 to 1065 — in the museum of the Basilica of San Isidoro in Leon, northern Spain on March 31, 2014.

Torres and del Rio’s theory, which they document in their new book, “The Kings of the Grail,” certainly seems wild, though the two say they have evidence from two Egyptian scrolls that corroborates their claims.

Unveiling their findings last Wednesday, the two explained that they found documents referencing the chalice at Cairo’s University of al-Azhar while researching the history if Islamic remains at the Basilica of San Isidoro, the Irish Times reported.

The documents, written in Arabic, reportedly say that Muslims stole the chalice from Jerusalem and that it was given to Christians in Egypt. Then, they claim it was somehow sent to King Fernando I of Castile as a gift, disguised with jewels and other adornments.

(Excerpt) Read more at theblaze.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cairo; chaliceofdonaurruca; christianity; christians; etinarcadiaego; godsgraveglyphs; godsgravesglyphs; holygrail; islam; jerusalem; jesus; joseortegadelro; leon; margaritatorres; montypython; religionofpieces; saintisidore; spain; theholygrail; thelastsupper
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Where's Monty Python?
1 posted on 03/31/2014 6:43:57 PM PDT by Fractal Trader
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To: SunkenCiv

Ping!


2 posted on 03/31/2014 6:44:13 PM PDT by Fractal Trader
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To: Fractal Trader

Big Deal.

I have two Grails in my basement.


3 posted on 03/31/2014 6:46:01 PM PDT by AlbertWang
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To: Fractal Trader
a gift, disguised with jewels and other adornments.

The stuff that dreams are made of.

4 posted on 03/31/2014 6:46:37 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: Fractal Trader

“No one expects the Spanish Inquisition”


5 posted on 03/31/2014 6:46:38 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (When I first read it, " Atlas Shrugged" was fiction)
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To: Fractal Trader

I read this years ago. It is not a new claim.


6 posted on 03/31/2014 6:46:38 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: Fractal Trader

Not to mention Spielberg.


7 posted on 03/31/2014 6:47:10 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1!)
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To: Fractal Trader

I told them we’ve already got one.


8 posted on 03/31/2014 6:48:41 PM PDT by henkster (I don't like bossy women telling me what words I can't use.)
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To: Fractal Trader

and to think it has been used at a McDonald’s in Toledo for 20 years to make Coffee is astounding!


9 posted on 03/31/2014 6:49:06 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Fractal Trader

10 posted on 03/31/2014 6:52:46 PM PDT by Bratch
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To: Fractal Trader

Who says there even is such a thing?


11 posted on 03/31/2014 6:55:03 PM PDT by DManA
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To: Fractal Trader
Oh, wicked, bad, naughty Margarita! She has been setting alight to their beacon, which, I have just remembered, is grail-shaped. This is not the first time they have had this problem. Oh, wicked, bad, naughty, evil Margarita! She is a bad person and must pay the penalty!
12 posted on 03/31/2014 6:56:05 PM PDT by PlateOfShrimp
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To: Fractal Trader

Is it sitting on a shelf next to the Spear of Longinus?


13 posted on 03/31/2014 6:57:13 PM PDT by fso301
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To: Fractal Trader

Torres and del Rio’s theory, which they document in their new book, “The Kings of the Grail,” certainly seems wild, though the two say they have evidence from two Egyptian scrolls that corroborates their claims.

Just like the Book of Mormon.

Amazing!!!


14 posted on 03/31/2014 6:57:28 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Bratch

Our chief element is surprise. Surprise and fear, damn, our TWO chief elements are surprise and fear and ruthless efficiency. Our THREE chief elements...amongst our elements are surprise and fear and ruthless efficiency and nice red uniforms...damn, I’ll come in again.


15 posted on 03/31/2014 6:58:31 PM PDT by 50sDad (A Liberal prevents me from telling you anything here.)
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To: Fractal Trader


16 posted on 03/31/2014 7:00:52 PM PDT by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: AlbertWang

I told ‘em we all ready got one.


17 posted on 03/31/2014 7:01:13 PM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: JoeProBono

hm,,, them that are some remarkably un hebrew lookin letter forms on that there grail....I tell ya!


18 posted on 03/31/2014 7:03:35 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill)
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To: ifinnegan

It’s very nice.


19 posted on 03/31/2014 7:05:22 PM PDT by Mygirlsmom (Enemies Beware: Obama has a phone and a # and he knows how to use them.)
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To: ifinnegan

Now go away or I shall taunt you a second time-a....


20 posted on 03/31/2014 7:06:49 PM PDT by stboz
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To: JoeProBono

Doesn’t look like the Cup of a Jewish carpenter ...


21 posted on 03/31/2014 7:06:52 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: Fractal Trader
Holy Grail photo: Magician MontyPython_theHolyGrail_Magician.jpg
22 posted on 03/31/2014 7:08:02 PM PDT by tumblindice (Are all Democrats inveterate, habitual liars?)
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To: JoeProBono

Lol...I can hear Indiana Jones voice saying “yeah, that’s a cup a carptenter is going to have on his table...”


23 posted on 03/31/2014 7:09:53 PM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Fractal Trader

“It’s only a model...”


24 posted on 03/31/2014 7:11:12 PM PDT by Zeppelin (Keep on FReepin' on...)
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To: stboz

Fechez la vache


25 posted on 03/31/2014 7:11:15 PM PDT by stboz
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To: tanknetter

It might not, if this is the vessel used at the Last Supper. That was a room which had been prepared for them which would have included the dishes.

Some people might anticipate magical things from this cup and if so they’ve quite missed the point of Christ. Christ came as Savior, not Stuntman.


26 posted on 03/31/2014 7:11:30 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Fractal Trader
about to come out of retirement to celebrate this "find"//...



those letters dont look like HEBREW to me..
27 posted on 03/31/2014 7:12:59 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill)
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To: Caipirabob

Actually under the jewels it says Git-R-Done.


28 posted on 03/31/2014 7:13:21 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: MeshugeMikey; tanknetter

While I think their claim is not credible (and their argument has an obvious logical flaw), their claim is that the plain polished stone cup underneath the gold and jewel setting is the original, and that the setting is a much later decoration.


29 posted on 03/31/2014 7:13:45 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: Caipirabob

[kidding]


30 posted on 03/31/2014 7:14:09 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

see post 27 for the best detail of the photo I could find.

thats NOT hebrew lettering

Roman Yes Hebrew Nope!


31 posted on 03/31/2014 7:14:27 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

ahahahah LOVE IT!


32 posted on 03/31/2014 7:14:46 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill)
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To: wideawake

That seems possible. We might never know what happened to the Grail. Maybe the Lord zapped it back to heaven to be on His memento shelf, for all we know. The meaning of Christ was symbolized by the grail.


33 posted on 03/31/2014 7:15:38 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: wideawake

were it indeed The Cup...who in their right mind would have decorated it?


34 posted on 03/31/2014 7:16:17 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill)
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To: AlbertWang

I got a gas one out on my deck


35 posted on 03/31/2014 7:17:24 PM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: MeshugeMikey

“those letters dont look like HEBREW to me..”

Those letters look Latin. Why back then would they put hebrew letters in a cup that only the romans could produce?


36 posted on 03/31/2014 7:17:57 PM PDT by Finalmente
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To: MeshugeMikey; Caipirabob
A Humble Redneck I Was Born
37 posted on 03/31/2014 7:18:24 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Fractal Trader

Was it in the Castle Anthrax?


38 posted on 03/31/2014 7:18:29 PM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: JoeProBono

On the bottom: “Made in China”


39 posted on 03/31/2014 7:19:11 PM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: MeshugeMikey

Well, knowing Christ “according to the Spirit” isn’t easy.


40 posted on 03/31/2014 7:19:26 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

LOL!!


41 posted on 03/31/2014 7:20:19 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: Fractal Trader
Oh, wicked, bad, naughty Zoot! She has been setting alight to our beacon, which, I just remembered, is grail-shaped. It's not the first time we've had this problem.
42 posted on 03/31/2014 7:20:34 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Republican amnesty supporters don't care whether their own homes are called mansions or haciendas.)
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To: MeshugeMikey

Catholics.


43 posted on 03/31/2014 7:20:35 PM PDT by NathanR
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To: Fractal Trader

What a joke!
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44 posted on 03/31/2014 7:20:52 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Fractal Trader

So what, I have George Washington’s hatchet.

The head has been replaced 7 times and the handle 12 times but it’s still his hatchet.


45 posted on 03/31/2014 7:21:35 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (God is not the author of confusion. 1 Cor 13: 33)
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To: MeshugeMikey

Nor Greek either.


46 posted on 03/31/2014 7:23:04 PM PDT by NathanR
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To: Fractal Trader
Bammy's been reaching for the HG.

Now, he has no chance?

GREAT!

47 posted on 03/31/2014 7:23:54 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Vendome
though the two say they have evidence from two Egyptian scrolls that corroborates their claims.

Just like the Book of Mormon.

Yes, but is it reformed Egyptian?

48 posted on 03/31/2014 7:24:36 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (God is not the author of confusion. 1 Cor 13: 33)
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To: Fractal Trader

Call me skeptical.


49 posted on 03/31/2014 7:25:26 PM PDT by rdl6989
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To: DManA

>> “Who says there even is such a thing?” <<

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There obviously couldn’t be.

The disciples deserted the room and scattered that night when the soldiers took Yeshua. the cup would have been fired clay in all likelihood anyway, and would have born no special characteristics.


50 posted on 03/31/2014 7:26:46 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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