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Krauthammer: ObamaCare 7.1 Million A 'Phony Number'
Breitbart.tv ^ | 1 Apr 2014

Posted on 04/01/2014 6:29:01 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike

Tuesday on Fox News Channel's "Special Report," Washington Post columnist Charles Krauthammer discussed the so-called 7.1 million Affordable Care Act enrollee number President Barack Obama announced earlier...

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: democratcare; donkeycare; jackasscare; krauthammer; obama; obamacare; obamacareenrollment; obamacarescam; obamalies

1 posted on 04/01/2014 6:29:01 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike
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To: Hotlanta Mike

I haven’t actually seen Krauthammer in a while — I must say he looks rather ill and struggling. I hope he’s doing OK.


2 posted on 04/01/2014 6:33:05 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: Hotlanta Mike
What Ubama number isn't phony?
3 posted on 04/01/2014 6:33:05 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("A man who damns money obtained it dishonorably; a man who respects it has earned it." --Ayn Rand)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The man has built his career on lies,why would any sane person believe anything he has to say now?


4 posted on 04/01/2014 6:36:43 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

The 7.1 million is a real number. It’s just a meaningless real number unless you know how many of them are re-insuring after ObamaCare caused them to lose a cheaper but better plan that they liked, how many intended to buy ObamaCare but have not paid, how many put a policy in the cart to see the price but never intended to buy, how many are fictional and were shopping purely to see how bad ObamaCare is, how many are non-citizens signing up at one of the Mexican embassies that are helping to process applications (really!), how many have expensive medical conditions, and how many other Americans lost insurance and are unwilling or unable to sign up.

The most plausible number I have is less than one million genuine “successes” in which a previously uninsured US citizen signed up for ObamaCare and paid the premium, compared with more than five million (possibly far more) failures in which Americans lost their coverage due to this terrible law and did not re-insure.


5 posted on 04/01/2014 6:37:45 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Pollster1

As Mark Levin said today, Obama wrecked the greatest healthcare system in the world for 800,000 people.


6 posted on 04/01/2014 6:42:11 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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To: Pollster1

2 million lost their current insurance and had no where else to go. Their rates are up 40% avg., deductibles tripled.

2 million are Medicaid.

2 million are subsidized and pay nothing.

1.1 million are young people duped by the ads who pay almost nothing.

There is your 7.1 million.


7 posted on 04/01/2014 6:42:23 PM PDT by Arlis
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To: Hotlanta Mike

THat is suck a joke!! IT IS A LIE!!


8 posted on 04/01/2014 6:46:05 PM PDT by SADMILLIE
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Driving home this evening, I heard someone on the radio ask “Would you buy a used car from this guy (obumbler)?

What else do you need to know?


9 posted on 04/01/2014 6:47:25 PM PDT by old curmudgeon
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To: gov_bean_ counter
As Mark Levin said today, Obama wrecked the greatest healthcare system in the world for 800,000 people.

That is probably about where it will top out too.

10 posted on 04/01/2014 6:50:06 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

If you believe 7.1 million, I have 3 bridgesto sell you. One in Brooklyn, one in Tampa Bay and one in Connecticut. You can have all 3 for the price of 7 million dollars. I accept gold or dollars only.


11 posted on 04/01/2014 6:50:32 PM PDT by ExCTCitizen (I'm ExCTCitizen and I approve this reply. If it does offend Libs, I'm NOT sorry...)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Obama’s a natural born liar. He does it with ease, probably better than any liar in all of politics.... And there’s a very strong field of competition.


12 posted on 04/01/2014 6:50:46 PM PDT by Bullish (America should yank Obama like a rotten tooth before he poisons the entire body)
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To: Pollster1

‘Secretive Obamacare Study Reportedly Reveals ‘Enrollment’ Numbers the White House Doesn’t Want to Talk About’

Excerpt:

But numbers from the RAND Corporation study reportedly suggest just 23 percent of enrollees had no insurance previously. Further, the study reveals about just 53 percent of previously uninsured Americans have actually paid for their new plans.

“If those numbers hold, the actual net gain of paid policies among Americans who lacked medical insurance in the pre-Obamacare days would be just 858,298,” the Daily Mail reports.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/04/01/the-secretive-obamacare-study-that-may-reveal-how-many-previously-uninsured-americans-have-actually-paid-for-a-plan/


13 posted on 04/01/2014 6:52:18 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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To: Pollster1

You may have missed the point.

The 7.1 million number IS a LIE.

If it were real, they would have lied and told us 8 or 10 million.

Look at the pace at which the reported numbers grew in the final days, and then recall that the site crashed on the last day.

I f the numbers were real, they’d also be bragging about the demographics of the enrollees.

It’s all bogus.


14 posted on 04/01/2014 6:55:54 PM PDT by G Larry (There's the Beef!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Phony president
Phony party
Phony healthcare bill
Phony website
So phony numbers are to be expected


15 posted on 04/01/2014 6:56:23 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: Hotlanta Mike

wait till these people who enrolled deal with long waits in the ER,have to wait 2/3 months for an urgent appt.,,will be asked to pay up front before they see the doctor,etc.etc.


16 posted on 04/01/2014 6:56:44 PM PDT by Cruz_West_Paul2016
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To: Hotlanta Mike

As much as I disagree with RAND’s politics and the with questions they choose to ask, I find this number completely believable.


17 posted on 04/01/2014 6:59:50 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Levin ran this number down on his show tonight, in the first hour. The total of cancellations reported state-by-state prior to today runs about 6.2 million. The number of non-paying signups within that 7.1 million is easily 10%, 700K, and nobody disputes that. We could make various assumptions as to how many will fall off 0care when they go for some kind of treatment, assuming of course they can find a doctor who will take 0care as payment and then realize they have $6375. to go in med bills before 0care covers their $125 appointment before their deductible gets hit and puke up their coverage. It’s entirely possible that the net effect of the signup period in which people had to be begged and cajoled to sign up by celebrities and Rachel Ray & LeBron James (if it was such a great deal, one wonders why they had to be begged?) is utterly zero. Or even negative.


18 posted on 04/01/2014 7:03:18 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (At no time was the Obama administration aware of what the Obama administration was doing)
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To: ClearCase_guy

actually he looks and sounds a bit better than he has in the last couple of years


19 posted on 04/01/2014 7:06:11 PM PDT by kingattax (America needs more real Americans.)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

As Mark Levin said today, Obama wrecked the greatest healthcare system in the world for 800,000 people.


At what is projected to be around $40,000 apiece, in addition to the premium on policies.


20 posted on 04/01/2014 7:06:57 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

He lied about keeping your plan; he lied about keeping your doctor; he lied about paying lower premiums; he lied about better plans; he lied when he said it wasn’t a tax.

Why on God’s green earth would anyone believe the 7.1 million number???


21 posted on 04/01/2014 7:15:03 PM PDT by Be Free (I believe in gun control. The more people that control their own guns, the safer we'll all be.)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

It won’t matter. All the networks and liberal websites will sing obamacare’s praises about how great it is and it will become fact.


22 posted on 04/01/2014 7:21:39 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: Hotlanta Mike

It’s also “unexpected.” It appears that the commie ‘RATS may have resorted to their fraudulent voter registration list to run up their numbers. Or they are probably just lying. JMO.


23 posted on 04/01/2014 7:25:16 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Happy Brain Injury Awareness Month!)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Lil Barry wrote the book on phoney.


24 posted on 04/01/2014 7:27:09 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

this is the least of his lies


25 posted on 04/01/2014 7:33:07 PM PDT by bigheadfred
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To: Bullish

“Obama’s a natural born liar. He does it with ease, probably better than any liar in all of politics.... And there’s a very strong field of competition.”

Nah, Obama is a transparent liar, he gets away with it because he’s “black.”
Now Blow Job Clinton, now there was a world-class liar.


26 posted on 04/01/2014 7:34:47 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Four days ago the number was 5 million. It is now 7.1 million. That means 2.1 million people signed up in 96 hours. That’s about 21,000 people an hour from a system that can only handle about 50,000 concurrent users. That means the average person in the last four days would have had to be in, sign up, and log out in about 40 minutes. It’s doable, but highly, highly unlikely.

What I suspect happened was that Obama transferred names from his contact database into the ObamaCare database to pump the numbers up.


27 posted on 04/01/2014 7:35:42 PM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel (Have a wonderful day!)
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To: MIchaelTArchangel
Time to play, "Fun With Numbers" and Obie's just don't add cup.

Thanks for the analysis.

28 posted on 04/01/2014 8:10:34 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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To: Be Free

As November disaster looms, Dems forming circular firing squad

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2014/04/as_november_disaster_looms_dems_forming_circular_firing_squad.html


29 posted on 04/01/2014 8:37:17 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Orwell’s socialists in the book 1984 used doublethink to deceive their society, but in important matters, like navigating war ships, 2 + 2 equaled four.
As that great Brit put it, free stuff sounds great but eventually you run out of other people’s money. The only way this program will work is if they start compelling productive citizens to pay, like SS.
Like GM and ‘TARP’. Obamacare is a socialist pipedream and American nightmare, if you object, that is, to turning over most of your paycheck to the government.
Recall that ‘Dreams of my Father’s father wrote an article on taxing people at 100%.


30 posted on 04/01/2014 9:00:39 PM PDT by tumblindice (Are all Democrats inveterate, habitual liars?)
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To: ClearCase_guy

You do know he’s a para, right?


31 posted on 04/01/2014 9:03:20 PM PDT by Osage Orange (I have strong feelings about gun control. If there's a gun around, I want to be controlling it.)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Amazing - five months ago Obama and his henchmen set a goal of 7 million sign-ups by March 31, and on that precise date they came within 1% of the number set way back then - tonight they’re snickering behind the backs of all those poor gullibles who’ve reported and celebrated these phony numbers with such wonder and satisfaction - lying has become so routine and boring for them that they now must spice things up by making the lies as obvious and outrageous as possible so they can taunt with total contempt all those who will grasp at and believe anything they feed them.....


32 posted on 04/01/2014 9:03:42 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: Intolerant in NJ

Will any of the LIB/DIM liars go to prison for their lies? Justice will find them.


33 posted on 04/01/2014 9:09:26 PM PDT by ogen hal (First amendment or reeducation camp)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

I got 7 people to give me all of their money they had in their wallets today.

All I had to do was point a gun at them and tell them, “Give me all your money!”


34 posted on 04/01/2014 10:00:40 PM PDT by seowulf (Cogito cogito, ergo cogito sum. Cogito.---Ambrose Bierce)
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To: Osage Orange

Yeah, I know. He just seemed to me to be struggling more than usual. But I rarely watch TV segments, so my opinion may be off.


35 posted on 04/02/2014 3:13:21 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: ClearCase_guy
Well....maybe I'm wrong. As you...I don't watch much regular T.V.

Krauthammer has a good mind...and I like to hear his take on things.

We shall see.........

36 posted on 04/02/2014 3:34:37 PM PDT by Osage Orange (I have strong feelings about gun control. If there's a gun around, I want to be controlling it.)
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