Skip to comments.5 Reasons Obama's 7.1 Million Number Is Meaningless
Posted on 04/02/2014 2:09:52 AM PDT by markomalley
On Tuesday, President Obama triumphantly announced that, with the power of the mainstream media, Hollywood, and the threat of the IRS, the mission had been accomplished: 7.1 million Americans had selected an Obamacare plan.
Obamas tone was nothing short of exuberant: 7.1 million Americans have now signed up for private insurance plans through these market places. 7.1! Yep! He then went on to criticize those who had expressed objections to Obamacare for its deprivations of plans, doctors, drugs, and liberty: Why are folks working so hard for people not to have health insurance?
Now, it was always foolhardy for Republicans and conservatives to stake their objections to Obamacare on the number of sign-ups; Social Security is going bankrupt despite 100% enrollment. The reality is that Obama was always destined to hit his required numbers because, after all, he has the power of government to compel action. The real problem with Obamacare has little to do with the number of people signing up, and a lot to do with the restrictions on insurance companies and reimbursement rates to doctors.
Nonetheless, the 7.1 million statistic is a meaningless one. Its meaningless for a variety of reasons:
It Doesnt Measure How Many People Have Actually Paid. Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius admitted yesterday that of the 6 million people who had signed up for Obamacare at the time, What we know from insurance companies
tell us that, for their initial customers, its somewhere between 80, 85, some say as high as 90 percent, have paid so far.
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Then print and source the list if it's real...otherwise take you lies and STFU
I sit here, a former responsibly individually insured person. March 31 has come and gone, and I have joined the uninsured because of a now unaffordable insurance rate and deductible. To top it, I don’t qualify for subsidy (which I despise, anyway).
There must be millions of other Americans like me. We have now joined the other “30 millions uninsured” obama used as a reason for HIS wonderful law.
obama can pretend for the cameras that we don’t exist, but we do, and he knows it. He is The Destroyer.
I sympathize with your problem. I hope you find something that suits you soon.
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A guy writes a diet book and is convicted of fraud but the Libs lie repeatedly in order to rewrite healthcare and it’s hailed as a “a big F’ing deal.”
What do you expect from the A-hole republicans,they are complicit in this mess as well,there were opportunities along the way to defund this monstrosity,they glided,they want it as bad as the Democrats,notice how now they will not repeal it,they will replace it,GO TO HELL republicans,I don’t want government bureaucrat running my health care,PERIOD
5 MILLION reasons Obama's 7.1 million number is meaningless
The main reason it’s meaningless is because it’s meaningless. It’s a random number pulled out of the cosmos.
Everything about Obamacare is bad!
Simple answer, the fundamental transformation in this situation is this: those with insurance before 2009 no longer have it because it was made too expensive and invasive. Meanwhile, they have been replaced on the insurance rolls by those who did not have it before because they are being subsidized to buy it. Kind of a shell game.
BTW, this is a win win for the insurance companies. If they lose money, virtually impossible under the rules, the government bails them out. Meanwhile, the taxpayers pay more taxes (or more debt) plus those who had insurance before either don’t have it now or pay more for what they did have with about 50% of the benefits of having it.
Welcome to Obamaland where up is down, down is up and social justice rules.
Thank you, Gaffer, but there is nothing out there to find.
Yep. You are absolutely correct.
And to pull numbers outta his a$$.
You said it more politely than I did at #14.
Ok. So if 7.1 million people decide to jump off of a bridge, does that mean you should too?
BTW, this is a win win for the insurance companies. If they lose money, virtually impossible under the rules, the government bails them out. Meanwhile, the taxpayers pay more taxes (or more debt) plus those who had insurance before either dont have it now or pay more for what they did have with about 50% of the benefits of having it.
You said it all, in two concise paragraphs.
I am surprised that half of the advertisers on talk radio aren’t in prison.
I disagree. The number claimed is likely at least half and probably 6/10 people that had insurance and lost it. The other fraction might be those that had no insurance before.
Once they understand that they have no insurance because the premium and deductable combined effectively mean there is no insurance, they will drop it. They are getting nothing for theri money. The question should not be have they paid the premium but if they paid the second and third pemiums
If 42 million people were uninsured, then how is insuring seven million a success?
If half or 2/3 were insured but cancelled, the number becomes even worse. It is worse.
The intent was not met....... epic faiI
Obama said the debate over this is now over, he won.
I think you also need consider the gross number by the bumster probably includes those who were shunted on to expanded medicaid.
IOW, these numbers all all sham and anyone who follows them is looking at the trees, not the forest.
Au contraire, mon ami.
Can we all stop pretending Obamacare has anything to do with providing healthcare or even health insurance coverage?
Now. Stop. Even the pundits on the conservative side.
The 7.1 millions number comes in handy to swing elections.
#1 - I HATE the word "folks", and doubly so when it is spoken by politicians.
#2 - Orwell could not have written a more Orwellian character than Obama.
"Ya'll made my Obamacare a success! You and you and you!"
Oh man that was freakin’ awesome when he did that! YOU LIE! LOL LOL! And he was right!
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Obama’s policies have a common theme - not of raising up the have-nots, but whacking the crap out of the haves.
I wonder how many of these sign ups were done by Acorn? Voter fraud?
7.1 million is like all the rest of Obama’s numbers bogus if was true you would see the number of how many paid in.
Now he has to come up with another scam to make it look like people did pay in new taxes/fee to ensue big time.