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ARMY GROOMING REGULATIONS: 'RACIALLY BIASED'?
Big Peace ^ | 4/2/2014 | AWR HAWKINS

Posted on 04/02/2014 3:02:52 AM PDT by markomalley

Approximately 6,000 people have  signed a petition claiming the U.S. Army's new grooming regulations are "racially biased" against "women with ethnically diverse hair."

According TIME, "soldiers and civilians signed a White House petition" asking the Army to "reconsider" the new regulations, which bar "twists, both flat twists as well as two strand twists; as well as dreadlocks, which are defined as 'any matted or locked coils or ropes of hair.'"

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1 posted on 04/02/2014 3:02:52 AM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

there were those with “sensitive skin” asking for waivers so they wouldn’t be required to shave in the 80s


2 posted on 04/02/2014 3:04:32 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: markomalley

Ain’t no bias - 1/8-inch clipper guard, take it to everyone.


3 posted on 04/02/2014 3:08:42 AM PDT by grobdriver (Where is Wilson Blair when you need him?)
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To: markomalley

I wonder why they want to get rid of dreads. If they are done nicely, they look professional. I don’t think they would get in the way of emergency gear. Kinda silly to get rid of a policy that worked for a long time.


4 posted on 04/02/2014 3:09:37 AM PDT by napscoordinator ( Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the country!)
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To: markomalley
Nope ... satanically biased.

Everything wrong or amiss in America can be directly attributed (imo) to the satanic effort to enslave and kill a free people.

ANYthing muzzie is satanic, so there's about half the problems there.


We tend to water down or completely forget the impact of Jesus and holiness in our formative years.

5 posted on 04/02/2014 3:12:10 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: yldstrk
I remember that in the early 70s. Black soldiers getting “folliculitis” and getting a waiver for shaving.
6 posted on 04/02/2014 3:12:53 AM PDT by Gaffer (Comprehensive Immigration Reform is just another name for Comprehensive Capitulation)
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To: markomalley

Air Force 35-10 regs barred Mohawk style haircuts in the late 70s.


7 posted on 04/02/2014 3:15:53 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: grobdriver
Ain’t no bias - 1/8-inch clipper guard, take it to everyone.

Yup! That was the haircut, the ONLY haircut, we were offered!

8 posted on 04/02/2014 3:22:41 AM PDT by Bushbacker1 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: Gaffer

biggest stink in the barracks in the 60’s ... smelled like a women’s salon burning hair.


9 posted on 04/02/2014 3:24:09 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: Gaffer

always rebels


10 posted on 04/02/2014 3:29:13 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: yldstrk

“RACISIM, RACISIM, RACISIM”........Anyone tired of hearing that cried about every thing on earth? I know I am.

I’m racist against white tennis shoes
I’m racist against Black coffee
I’m racist against Irish green T-shirts
I’m racist against racists
I’m sick of hearing about racists

Need I go on?


11 posted on 04/02/2014 3:45:39 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: markomalley

The armed services will now be cutting back on maneuvers, firearms training, and instruction in the use of explosives to arrange for extra time to be spent on fashion sense, grooming, counseling in personal appearance and racial sensitivity, and instruction in homosexual techniques.

It’s an Obama kinda thing.


12 posted on 04/02/2014 3:46:43 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: Progov

And the very next thread of FR started out titled, (you guessed it), “Racisim At The Root of Detroit’s Problems”


13 posted on 04/02/2014 3:48:52 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: markomalley

Our president is a joke. Congress is a joke. Public schools are a joke. Now our military is becoming a joke.

I don’t recognize America any more.


14 posted on 04/02/2014 3:53:27 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: markomalley

To my knowledge, dreadlocks were not allowed by the old regs.

Mostly, the new regs define hairstyles more narrowly and specifically than the old regs. Before, the female regs stated that hair must be above the bottom of the collar, or be put up—there may have been more to it, but I don’t recall since I haven’t read it in a while. The new regs state what is acceptable in a hair style—no changes in length more than 1” (so none of the really short in the back, long in the front), parts must be straight, short hair cannot be shorter than a certain minimum, long hair cannot be put up in a lopsided fashion, etc. The new regs also state that females can only wear clear nail polish, where before, we could wear “conservative” colored polish.

I’m not sure why anyone would want to wear dreadlocks in the first place. It’s hard enough to keep hair clean, why would anyone want to make it even more dirt and germ catching?


15 posted on 04/02/2014 4:07:17 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: markomalley


16 posted on 04/02/2014 4:14:02 AM PDT by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: exDemMom
I’m not sure why anyone would want to wear dreadlocks in the first place. It’s hard enough to keep hair clean, why would anyone want to make it even more dirt and germ catching?

The whole point of dreads is that they are never supposed to be washed. It's an Aboriginal/Rastafarian thing.

17 posted on 04/02/2014 4:20:53 AM PDT by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: markomalley

That has to be one of the silliest uses of the PC phrase “ethnically diverse” I have ever seen.

How precisely does one have “ethnically diverse hair”? Hair characteristic of three or four different ethnic groups on different parts of the head? Blonde hair that naturally forms an afro if grown out?


18 posted on 04/02/2014 4:43:58 AM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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To: markomalley
Sgt. Jasmine Jacobs signed the petition. She said: "Most black women, their hair doesn't grow straight down, it grows out. I'm disappointed to see the Army, rather than inform themselves on how black people wear their hair, they've white-washed it all."

I see what she did there. It's actually pretty clever.

19 posted on 04/02/2014 5:02:39 AM PDT by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th (and 17th))
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To: Gaffer

My brother is in now and he has a special disposition where he doesn’t have to shave with a trimmer, he uses an edger which gets really close but his hair, like mine, can’t be allowed to get under the skin. He’s already had surgery to remove keloids once. I also don’t see the problem with short twists for women which can be under an inch long. A black womans hair does take a lot of upkeep but there are several styles they’re banning that are short and neat.


20 posted on 04/02/2014 5:05:34 AM PDT by Raymann
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To: The_Reader_David

I thought the same thing when I read it.

It’s a tupid use of the phrase, even by PC standards.

Of course, it was written by a “journalist”.


21 posted on 04/02/2014 5:05:55 AM PDT by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th (and 17th))
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To: Raymann

Edit: meant razor, not trimmer. Got I hate those things.


22 posted on 04/02/2014 5:07:43 AM PDT by Raymann
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To: markomalley

The military is not a jobs program. If you want to do things your way go work at Burger King.


23 posted on 04/02/2014 5:16:24 AM PDT by greatvikingone
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To: Raymann

I can understand about hair growing inside the skin. I’ve had that problem once or twice in my life in a couple of places where the hair really grew and I had to pull it out from under the skin with a needle.

I can imagine that naturally curly facial hair would be more of a problem, and there were undoubtedly some black soldiers who really had that problem. In my case during my enlistment though, I saw way too many and a lot of them were letting their beard growth push the boundaries IMO.


24 posted on 04/02/2014 5:18:04 AM PDT by Gaffer (Comprehensive Immigration Reform is just another name for Comprehensive Capitulation)
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To: markomalley

No neatness at all when it comes to dreadlocks. Go ahead - call me racist!


25 posted on 04/02/2014 5:20:38 AM PDT by NRA1995 (I'd rather be a living "gun culture" member than a dead anti-gun candy-ass.)
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To: NRA1995
If you cant wash that hair, it going to go ripe after awhile. Would be a joy for all their fellow soldiers smelling that.
26 posted on 04/02/2014 5:29:36 AM PDT by Yorlik803 ( Church/Caboose in 2016)
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To: markomalley

What’s next? Perhaps allowing recruits to wear fatigues “gangsta style” with their underwear showing. It will be hard to run in those though…...


27 posted on 04/02/2014 5:31:49 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: napscoordinator

I requested a lighter buzz cut upon completion of basic in 68 as getting married - I know. The DI made it a point to have all evidence of hair and some skin removed. Hurt to the point of tears. No favors...mow em all.


28 posted on 04/02/2014 5:36:19 AM PDT by mcshot (..."And this too shall end.")
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To: Yorlik803

I know the smell well, have worked with guitarists who wear dreads. I used to want to spray ‘em with Old Spice.


29 posted on 04/02/2014 5:37:34 AM PDT by NRA1995 (I'd rather be a living "gun culture" member than a dead anti-gun candy-ass.)
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To: markomalley

How will that work out for NBC gear, firefighting gear aboard ships etc.


30 posted on 04/02/2014 5:45:59 AM PDT by Einherjar
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To: markomalley

The really stupid thing on display here is that nobody in charge seems to know history or reality well enough to remember or figure out that the whole reason for the requirement of short hair, which has been in known since the time of the Romans... was that long hair is a serious vulnerability that your opponent can grab and hold in a hand to hand situation. Dreads would be even easier to hold on to then loose hair!

But the truth is, now that they put women in harms way, everyone already knows that if she gets into the situation where long hair could be a vulnerability....she is already screwed.

So I would argue this is a reason she doesn’t belong in the military but I’m old fashioned. But the same reason could be used to say it doesn’t matter what they do with their hair.


31 posted on 04/02/2014 5:57:57 AM PDT by Hardslab
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To: Hardslab

Ask Absalom... long hair didn’t work out so well for him in a military situation.


32 posted on 04/02/2014 6:00:10 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: txrefugee

The whole point is to knock down all the standards.
Crying “racism” has been very effective in this agenda.


33 posted on 04/02/2014 6:00:55 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: grobdriver
Absolutely! What is the military a fashion show? Seems like the military needs a good enema based on all the grievances the softies bring up, but that's Obungo’s military....
34 posted on 04/02/2014 6:11:11 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal
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To: Progov

I hear ya...but the way things are headed, it’ll be “racist” just for a person of color to see a white person.


35 posted on 04/02/2014 6:11:11 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal
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To: markomalley

What a bunch of LIB race-baiting twaddle. Cut your hair short...STFU.


36 posted on 04/02/2014 6:17:22 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Hardslab

“So I would argue this is a reason she doesn’t belong in the military but I’m old fashioned. “

Certainly many jobs should be restricted to males. We lost a sailor this week because a female watchstander had her weapon taken away from her and PO2 Mark Mayo saved her life by giving his.


37 posted on 04/02/2014 6:20:10 AM PDT by greatvikingone
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To: yldstrk

Same in the 1960s when blacks would on purpose scrape their skin with single blade razors (Gillette blue blades or the new Wilkinson stainless single blades) to get allowances for growing a beard.

Those who failed to get the shaving waver would grow a small tuft of whiskers just below the bottom lip.


38 posted on 04/02/2014 6:38:25 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: Gaffer
I remember that in the early 70s. Black soldiers getting “folliculitis” and getting a waiver for shaving.

I was in from 76-84, and I don't recall one instance of a Black officer with folliculitis.

39 posted on 04/02/2014 6:41:20 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (For every Ted Cruz we send to DC, I can endure 2-3 "unviable" candidates that beat incumbents.)
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To: Night Hides Not

1968 through 1976, here. I was enlisted and didn’t get to hang around officers much. I saw enough of these cases for it to have stuck with me all these years.


40 posted on 04/02/2014 6:51:55 AM PDT by Gaffer (Comprehensive Immigration Reform is just another name for Comprehensive Capitulation)
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To: Gaffer
I was enlisted and didn’t get to hang around officers much.

You didn't miss a thing...lol.

My ADA battalion was spread out among 3 air bases. All of the officers in my battery my first year were single, so we hung out a lot after hours. The succeeding BC was married, and an excellent staff officer, so I gravitated towards the senior NCOs. Zoomies had no problems with officers having a few beers at the NCO club. By that time, I had moved off base, so my socializing mostly occurred in the town I lived in.

As my tour in Germany progressed (kicked up to Battalion HQ about 50 miles from my first unit), I was pretty much a loner. Living on the Mosel River, there was plenty for a bachelor to do.

41 posted on 04/02/2014 7:55:33 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (For every Ted Cruz we send to DC, I can endure 2-3 "unviable" candidates that beat incumbents.)
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