Skip to comments.U.S. Army Cutting Live-Fire Training
Posted on 04/02/2014 3:13:00 AM PDT by kingattax
U.S. Army leaders told lawmakers today that the service will have to spend less on live-fire maneuver training as a result of the deep cuts to defense spending under sequestration.
Service leaders have been warning Congress for months that these cuts are forcing the Army to cut readiness training. A slightly clearer explanation of what cutting readiness training will mean to combat units emerged during a March 27 hearing before the House Appropriations Committees Defense Subcommittee.
It has come to my attention
that in our budget in the area of marksmanship training for our personnel, both active and Guard, that the funding is being reduced by about 60 percent, Rep Marcy Kaptur, D-Ohio, who represents the Ohio Army National Guards Camp Perry Joint Training Center, told senior Army officials.
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So, no live fire training for the US forces to become proficient at killing a foreign enemy, but the DHS, IRS, EPA, HHS, USPS, ATF, DEA all get billions of rounds of hollow point ‘training ammo?”
One wonders just who the enemy these non-DoD agencies are training to kill?
Military cannot fire back anyway,
except at American civilians — per the undocumented
First Moslem Tyrant.
Reloading the EBT cards is more important...
“U.S. Army leaders told lawmakers today that the service will have to spend less on live-fire maneuver training as a result of the deep cuts to defense spending under sequestration. “
An army soldier told me during Clinton’s later years the guys standing guard went into town and bought their own M-16 ammo as the base had run out. When Bush took over he had his office call the presidents of the bullets and bomb companies and tell them, “Go to 24 hour shifts. We’ll talk price when the president takes office.” (I was at GD when this happened.) They did and he did. Clinton had literally used up all the bullets and bombs and not replaced them. Stealing from training and readiness so they can use the funding for something else is a Democrat standard procedure.
During those years there was a number of times my kids ship could not go out on training - could not afford fuel.
Maybe they could borrow ammo from Homeland Security.
The good news is that, with Obama’s new policies in place, the services will be able to spend more than before on classes in Interior Decoration.
Might as well cut training with live fire, odumbo doesn’t want our soldiers shooting all his muzzie friends with real bullets either. Why waste ammunition?
Then there IS all that ammo the NSA and others have stockpiled to use agains’t US. Why not use that stuff for practice?
What could go wrong?
Maybe we should start a rumor that they will be donating their ammo to the newly formed (per thread yesterday) MB/CAIR sponsored US political party?
“Of the four wars of my lifetime, none came about because the U.S. was too strong” - President Ronald Reagan
The civil agencies will perform the same functions as the German SS did. They will act as the civilian police when the military refuses to fire upon American citizens. Hence, the continuing weakening of the military.
(Also SOP is that the Democrats' "Free Sh*t Army" never has to forego EBT training, Section 8 training, preference training, community organizing training, perpetual grievance training, etc.)
Don’t worry, Obama has a new secret weapons program that relies heavily on John Kerry’s aggressive diplomacy and liberal use of spit balls.
I wonder how much we are spending on day care centers?
They don’t want the military to be a threat to Obama’s DHS cadres.
...and yet, DoD still has money to spend on Green initiatives and transgender outreach.
I think someone should POINT OUT that once before, because of an aversion to spending money on the “warmongers” the United States was lucky not to lose a war.
After the Depression, in the 1930’s, the U.S. Navy was so restricted regarding “live ammo” expenditure that torpedoes fired by U.S. subs were not, in practice, as fired in war.
The navy did NOT know that the practice shots, not “LIVE” and not blown up, were quite a bit lighter than the actual war shots.
In the early part of the war, submarine warfare was a failure, more lethal to US subs than their Japanese targets.
Our torpedoes ran much deeper than desired settings, and thus tragically UNDER their targets. How many U.S. subs were lost, with their crews, specifically because of this.
Many of those that actually hit did not explode due to malfunctioning UNTESTED firing mechanisms. Only when “WAR” shots were fired into depth marked nets off Hawaii, was the problem realized and corrections made.
Then our “silent service” proceeded to do the job they had not been allowed to do.
One could say, “History is repeating itself.”
Ugh. This a hole really is Carter II. When I entered the USAF reserve in 79 it was all simulators and “managers”. We couldn’t fight our way out of a box. By the time I entered active duty in 83, the whole atmosphere had changed. It was Fly and Fight and Win, and they wanted Warriors not managers. Sadly, I don’t see Reagan coming to our rescue again.
“One wonders just who the enemy these non-DoD agencies are training to kill?”
Look in a mirror and you will see one.
A thoroughly dangerous desperado obviously that dares to speak out against the “Chosen One”.
Just saying, we buy way too much imported goods.
America’s manufacturing backbone has been sold out.
As a result, we import what used to be made in America. This is not just a change. America no longer runs the economy, it once did.
By shipping our manufacturing base offshore, we have sold out our own country.
Our country no longer has the manufacturing base it had. We have sent it in large part, to COMMUNIST CHINA.
So China now is growing leaps and bounds. Chinese investors are buying up America.
Yet the GOP continues to protest what is in large part, a result of this sell-out.
Our economy is in trouble, precisely because we have sold our manufacturing base to foreigners.
America we need to make the things we buy, right here in America.
Bring back American manufacturing.
Stop buying everything imported.
Why even have a military if you’re going to prohibit them from War Training and practice?
This is the new “common sense” under the Kenyan...
Smile when you say that, Pardner! :o)
I remember the carter years well. We were going to the Cann point to get cotter pins, bolts and other common hardware. We used idiot sticks to cut grass, because the military did not want to use gas that was needed to move equipment.
Beginning to sound exactly like when I joined during the Carter Administration.
Troops need to sweat a lot during training, so they won’t bleed a lot during battle.
In Obama’s military, it is acceptable for soldiers to train in the same way young boys used to play (before such became socially unacceptable) in neighborhoods around the country, by just running around with a finger pointed out, going “pew! pew! pew!.... aht..aht..aht..aht.. pew! pew! pew!”
Why don’t they just buy simulation software to practice marksmanship. It’s a good bet that if they did the software would crash often and cost more than the bullets they “saved.”
Makes perfect sense, given the rules of engagement in effect today.
They have and it does, Chief.
Well that is only half the Story the other Problem that did not come about due to the lax testing was that the magnetic Pistol Exploders were not working and that contact firing pins were too weak to work with a “good” hit! Cutting the military only costs lives! The Torpedoes were not fully reliable till late 1943! if you wish to live in peace you must prepare for war!
Our military budget is shrinking, because our economy is shrinking, because we have exported so many American jobs to other countries.
Bring back American jobs.