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GOP eyes Dem help on ObamaCare (unbelievably stupid people in the GOP!)
thehill.com ^

Posted on 04/02/2014 3:45:53 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA

House Republicans will bring three bills to the floor for votes this week that would expand religious and military exemptions under ObamaCare.

And for a change, Republicans are expecting significant help from Democrats to pass the legislation.

GOP leaders are treating the three ObamaCare bills as "suspension" legislation, which means they will get a shorter debate and must pass with a two-thirds majority vote. That's a sign Republicans believe they have enough support from Democrats to pass the bills.

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: fasicstrepubs; obama; obamacare; uniparty
Let this turd fail! Why is the GOP actively helping this disastrous bill live? Roll it out as is and let people experience it fully.
1 posted on 04/02/2014 3:45:54 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA
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To: Red in Blue PA

No bill is going to get past Reid.


2 posted on 04/02/2014 3:48:42 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Two reasons:

1: G.O.P. = Give Obama Power

and

2: RomneyCARE = ObamaCARE = HillaryCARE


3 posted on 04/02/2014 3:50:35 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: Red in Blue PA

Remember 2012 ? That should be the theme of any conservative running against the GOPES (gop elite snobs) that’s been in office. This is what they did http://www.theusmat.com/ and didn’t do.
Including mentioning disposing of GOD (and suggest the answer as to the question why the democrats in name only are such liars) at their national convention


4 posted on 04/02/2014 3:58:31 AM PDT by mosesdapoet (Serious contribution pause.Please continue onto meaningless venting no one reads.)
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To: Red in Blue PA
They are not stupid, they are deliberately colluding with the libs to keep this socialist anvil that is tied to our necks, this POS, and unmitigated disaster alive. Take names and mark them for eviction.
5 posted on 04/02/2014 3:58:34 AM PDT by iontheball
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To: iontheball

I can’t wait for the GOPe defenders on FR to invade shortly. I suppose they are tuned just like their Democrat counterparts to wait for the talking points memo.


6 posted on 04/02/2014 4:06:46 AM PDT by mazda77
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To: Red in Blue PA

So threatened Dems can say in their campaign ads that they tried to “fix” ObamaCare. Really…..Boehner has to be blackmailed by the Democrats to go for this fig leaf scheme. He can’t really be this stupid, can he?


7 posted on 04/02/2014 4:14:19 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: iontheball

“they are deliberately colluding with the libs to keep this socialist anvil that is tied to our necks “
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Of course they are. There is no conservative party left in America that has any power.


8 posted on 04/02/2014 4:17:14 AM PDT by AlexW
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To: Red in Blue PA

Huh? Fail? We need to chop this tree down, and this looks like an attempt to knock a few branches off.

Why is that a bad thing?


9 posted on 04/02/2014 4:19:55 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Red in Blue PA
Why is the GOP actively helping this disastrous bill live?

Grasshopper, you are beginning to understand...

10 posted on 04/02/2014 4:24:41 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise. H)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Huh? Fail? We need to chop this tree down, and this looks like an attempt to knock a few branches off.

Why is that a bad thing?

...actually reading the article tenderizes the red meat quotient, and reduces the outrage to below sufficient levels...


11 posted on 04/02/2014 4:26:14 AM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: Red in Blue PA

All we should hear from Repubs on Obamacare is “repeal, repeal, repeal.” Yet we almost never hear it. What idiots.


12 posted on 04/02/2014 4:40:55 AM PDT by PaleoBob
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To: SoFloFreeper

The only way it will truly fail is if people feel it in full force. Changing it only assures it will have a long life.


13 posted on 04/02/2014 4:51:24 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Rip it out.


14 posted on 04/02/2014 5:21:27 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Rip it out by the roots.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Just see my tag line for the reason why.


15 posted on 04/02/2014 5:28:08 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Red in Blue PA; GeronL; xzins; Norm Lenhart; TADSLOS; RKBA Democrat; Finny; who knows what evil?; ..
And You thought the Second Party of Government was different somehow?

Uniparty Ping.

16 posted on 04/02/2014 5:51:44 AM PDT by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.- Sarah Palin)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Why they didn’t just defund everything Obamacare is beyond comprehension. I can only conclude that the HOR ‘pubs want Obamacare, just with a bigger chunk of the dollars going to their paymasters.


17 posted on 04/02/2014 5:54:14 AM PDT by grania
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To: KC_Lion

I actually heard Tom Coburn on FNC this morning say “we (the government) need to fix healthcare and republicans have introduced several initiatives to fix it”. I wanted to just scream.


18 posted on 04/02/2014 5:59:40 AM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: KC_Lion

It’s small consolation but I look forward to the day when all the GOP fans and detractors will have to admit that us evil purists were right all along.

Because we have been right all along. And no amount of screaming, tantrums or pictures of Yosemite Sam on a dragon will change that. But most likely, their egos will not allow them to admit it. Just as their egos keep them giving the GOP power to help the Democrats keep Obamacare alive.

That’s what “Vote GOP NO MATTER WHAT” really means. They put themselves ahead of their country.


19 posted on 04/02/2014 6:05:35 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart (I)
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To: Norm Lenhart; TADSLOS; Viennacon; ansel12
It’s small consolation but I look forward to the day when all the GOP fans and detractors will have to admit that us evil purists were right all along.

Because we have been right all along. And no amount of screaming, tantrums or pictures of Yosemite Sam on a dragon will change that. But most likely, their egos will not allow them to admit it. Just as their egos keep them giving the GOP power to help the Democrats keep Obamacare alive.

That’s what “Vote GOP NO MATTER WHAT” really means. They put themselves ahead of their country.


20 posted on 04/02/2014 6:09:08 AM PDT by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.- Sarah Palin)
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To: KC_Lion

The nerve of these Repubs...yesterday I received an insultingly-worded “survey” from the GOP senate “leader”, boner. These fools just don’t get it. Why would I give any money when they seem to support the DIMs/LIBs. What I gave them was a piece of my mind...they’ll never read it because I didn’t enclose a check.


21 posted on 04/02/2014 6:15:49 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: hal ogen; Norm Lenhart; TADSLOS
What I sent Back to Pat Roberts Campign begging me for money.

And Sent it back using Their Pre Paid Postage.


22 posted on 04/02/2014 6:19:06 AM PDT by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.- Sarah Palin)
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To: Red in Blue PA

I don’t generally approve of sleaze, but in the case of saving America from ObamaCare, I’m all for anything that works. I hope someone clever in a GOP-e leader’s staff is planning a trick “let’s vote to repeal this narrow list of sections of the PPACA and save the law” but the final draft will be modified just before the vote to include the same list but somewhere in the middle a passage for the repeal of sections 2711 through 10909 of the PPACA” (the whole terrible law).

Otherwise taking just the most offensive clauses out of this uniformly evil law is a maliciously stupid idea - far too dumb to be an accident.


23 posted on 04/02/2014 6:20:51 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

The chances of repealing prior to 2017 are exactly 0%. All other discussion is purely a thought exercise.


24 posted on 04/02/2014 6:21:21 AM PDT by Wyatt's Torch
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To: fortheDeclaration

I tire of people not understanding what the hell is going on, the republican leadership and most in office SUPPORT the socialist agenda totally.

They do not cave, go weak kneed or any other foolish saying GOP pundits have come up with, there as lame as “low information voters”, they just confuse the issues....


25 posted on 04/02/2014 6:25:08 AM PDT by stockpirate (Only a tidal wave of tyrants blood will return our tree of liberty......)
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To: KC_Lion
👍
26 posted on 04/02/2014 6:31:18 AM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

ILLINOIS

MEDICARE/MEDICAID
Ex-probation officer in Illinois gets probation for healthcare fraud

Man sentenced to probation for health care fraud
Brandie Piper, KSDK 4:26 p.m. CDT April 1, 2014

EAST ST. LOUIS, Ill. – A Washington Park, Ill. man has been sentenced for a Medicaid abuse scheme.

Former Washington Park trustee and St. Clair County probation officer, 39-year-old Darron A. Suggs, was sentenced to five years of probation Tuesday and ordered to pay $64,867 in restitution to the Illinois Department of Human Services.

http://www.ksdk.com/story/news/crime/2014/04/01/darron-suggs-health-care-fraud-sentencing/7175195/


27 posted on 04/02/2014 7:22:03 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: Wyatt's Torch
The question is if the American people felt the pain if this was rolled out as written (no exceptions), what would the chances of repeal be THEN?
28 posted on 04/02/2014 7:22:14 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Red in Blue PA

The GOP is really in a tough position on this one - the old adage of the best way to get rid of a bad law is to enforce it to the letter applies, but at the same time, the effects of this particular law are devastating and there’s a very real desire to grant as much relief as possible until it can be repealed (or altered to the point where it is effectively repealed).

I don’t envy them trying to find the right middle ground between the two, although it may be made easier by the fact that Reid will simply ignore anything that passes the House, bi-partisan or not.


29 posted on 04/02/2014 7:24:33 AM PDT by kevkrom (I'm not an unreasonable man... well, actually, I am. But hear me out anyway.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

IF they want to be the party of stupid, they’ll have to do it without us conservatives. Good luck with that.


30 posted on 04/02/2014 7:28:42 AM PDT by jersey117
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To: Red in Blue PA

Good point but a hypothetical one. And I think the chances of passing a single payer system are higher than outright repeal.


31 posted on 04/02/2014 7:39:37 AM PDT by Wyatt's Torch
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To: Wyatt's Torch

It’s only hypothetical because of spineless Republicans.


32 posted on 04/02/2014 7:44:36 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Wyatt's Torch

The GOP - ie. Team Romney and Rove
want RomneyCARE/ObamaCARE forever.

Nothing has changed.

America must get rid of the RINOs like
Romney and his ilk.


33 posted on 04/02/2014 10:18:17 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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