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Rick Santorum, in movie exec mode, considers his options for 2016
Washington Post ^ | 04/01/2014 | Ben Terris

Posted on 04/02/2014 7:59:19 AM PDT by GIdget2004

“There’s going to be a fight on the right to see who will be the Christian conservative choice of 2016,” says Jamie Johnson, a former Santorum campaign staffer. “I’ve never seen the stars aligned like this before in Iowa, with so many possibilities. I love Rick Santorum, and I wish him the best, but this is a new day.”

It’s a day when GOP Sens. Ted Cruz (Tex.) and Rand Paul (Ky.) are rock stars and when former Arkansas governor Mike Huckabee could jump in and steal a lot of the evangelical support. And that’s just the fight for the right flank of the party. Who knows whether Jeb Bush or Chris Christie will end up eating away at the pie? This means that even some of Santorum’s most avid supporters last time around can’t promise to be there for him going forward. Ask Chuck Laudner, an Iowa strategist who logged thousands of miles in his pickup truck, working as just one of seven people on the Santorum campaign stationed in Iowa.

“Put it this way,” he said when asked about whether he plans on taking the truck out again in 2016. “Rick’s got dibs. But I don’t expect that you can re-create the 2012 caucus and re-create that dynamic. I doubt that anybody is going to be riding in that truck except me.”

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: santorum; santorum2016

1 posted on 04/02/2014 7:59:19 AM PDT by GIdget2004
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To: GIdget2004

I like Rick Santorum and voted for him in the last primary but I hope everybody who ran last time, sits this one out.


2 posted on 04/02/2014 8:01:07 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: GIdget2004

America is too stupid to have a great man as Santorum as President. America does not deserve your incredible greatness. Just enjoy your life and watch America go down in flames because of their intense stupidity. You don’t need to take part of these selfish idiots.


3 posted on 04/02/2014 8:04:11 AM PDT by napscoordinator ( Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the country!)
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To: GIdget2004

Spend time with your daughter? Just a thought.


4 posted on 04/02/2014 8:05:15 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (FIGHT! FIGHT! SEVERE CONSERVATIVE AND THE WILD RIGHT!)
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To: cripplecreek

Yeah the progressive liberal Democrat Satanists would love for the GOP to have 10 canidates to vote for while they get behind one. In fact i would expectthem to set up faux conservative groups to encourage and pay candidates to run. We are dealing with a conniving breed of liberal Democrats now. No time to play checkers when they are playing chess. In fact it’s time to play Spock chess - the 3 dimensional variety.


5 posted on 04/02/2014 8:08:42 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: napscoordinator

I sent Rick $100.
Never did get that sweater vest...


6 posted on 04/02/2014 8:10:36 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Rip it out by the roots.)
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To: GIdget2004

Rick “Take One for the Team” Santorum


7 posted on 04/02/2014 8:12:16 AM PDT by gdani
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To: GIdget2004

I agree with nearly everything Santorum stands for, but he’s unelectable.


8 posted on 04/02/2014 8:13:56 AM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

lol. He may have spent it to buy himself a new one.


9 posted on 04/02/2014 8:15:20 AM PDT by napscoordinator ( Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the country!)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

The sweater vest is great; it exudes “family” and the values it evokes.

A standout, to be sure.


10 posted on 04/02/2014 8:16:20 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: KoRn
I agree with nearly everything Santorum stands for, but he’s unelectable.

Curious as to why you think that is.
11 posted on 04/02/2014 8:17:11 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: cripplecreek
I hope everybody who ran last time, sits this one out.

Me too but Santorum didn't actually run last time (or the time before) he was just a spoiler for his buddy Mitt Romney. Santorum must know something about the 2016 election that we don't know yet. Perhaps Senator Graham or John Boehner are considering a possible run and may need Santorum's help?

12 posted on 04/02/2014 8:18:08 AM PDT by tsowellfan (www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: tsowellfan

Santorum has turned running for President into a career. I’m kind of jealous, he’s making pretty good coin from it.


13 posted on 04/02/2014 8:23:14 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (For every Ted Cruz we send to DC, I can endure 2-3 "unviable" candidates that beat incumbents.)
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To: Resettozero
>> I agree with nearly everything Santorum stands for, but he’s unelectable.

Curious as to why you think that is.

He lost his Senate seat while an incumbent. He couldn't beat the father of Obamacare, Mitt Romney, in the 2012 primaries. He then later endorsed Romney.

In short, if he was "electable" he would be currently holding office.

14 posted on 04/02/2014 8:30:29 AM PDT by gdani
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To: napscoordinator

Santorum backed Specter over Toomey. Was he great then?


15 posted on 04/02/2014 8:38:17 AM PDT by jospehm20
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To: gdani
In short, if he was "electable" he would be currently holding office.

Do you think that also applies to Palin?
16 posted on 04/02/2014 8:39:51 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: GIdget2004

His message, it be early in 2011 I believe just really resonated with me and got me back heavily interested in politics. He just could have been more polished. The media and far left were disgusted with him so he must have been on target and probably paved the way a bit for other conservatives, those we will see running for the next nomination.

Started campaigning in Iowa based in a pick up truck.

Realistically, I expect newer faces to probably make their mark next time.


17 posted on 04/02/2014 8:41:31 AM PDT by BeadCounter (morning glory evening grace)
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To: GIdget2004

Santorum was kicked out of his senate seat by a larger margin that Christine O’Donnell lost her race to become a first time office holder.

We will all be better off when this Arlen Specter devoted phony, finds a job, and leaves us alone.


18 posted on 04/02/2014 8:50:11 AM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: All

Tier 2 at Pro-Life Profiles which is basically the best ranking of any reknown and somewhat mainstream politician: http://prolifeprofiles.com/rick-santorum-pro-life , I don’t necessarily vouch for the site but the information is helpful nonetheless.

Still, if Rick Santorum ran for President, I wonder if he might become one of those candidates who gets shunned out of the debates if he doesn’t put up good numbers in the primaries. By numbers, in general, I’d say 5% or better to begin with in the early voting.


19 posted on 04/02/2014 8:50:46 AM PDT by BeadCounter (morning glory evening grace)
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To: tsowellfan

You morons need to take your pathetic and childish Mitt Romney spoiler excuse and shove it up your ass. Anybody you didn’t want was a Mitt Romney spoiler. Too bad none of you had the man parts to listen to what Sheldon Adelson was saying out loud.

If anybody was helping Romney it was you.


20 posted on 04/02/2014 8:51:20 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: ansel12

Of course, you don’t mention he won his Senate seat two times, not bad for a place like Pennsylvania and lost mainly in a year, Republicans were just plainly beaten bad.

http://prolifeprofiles.com/rick-santorum-pro-life

He’s prolife, gets the best rating of any mainstream politician around. Hardly seems phony but name-calling and falsehoods seem to be your style.


21 posted on 04/02/2014 8:52:48 AM PDT by BeadCounter (morning glory evening grace)
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To: Resettozero
Do you think that also applies to Palin?

Palin does not hold office anywhere because she does not want to.

She learned years ago she makes much more money, with much less stress, by writing books, giving speeches, having 100 TV shows, etc.

Every once in awhile she'll tease people with the idea she *might* run for president. But that's more about keeping her name in the news & making money than actually running for office.

22 posted on 04/02/2014 8:54:34 AM PDT by gdani
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To: BeadCounter

Thanks for the personal attack, speaking of “style”, I merely posted facts on Santorum.

Santorum lost by a BIGGER margin than Christine O’Donnell, and he was the incumbent! It was history making that election cycle, and not at all typical as you tried to claim, no one resembled Santorum’s 18 point wipeout.

The Catholic Santorum admits to switching to pro-life to run for office in 1990, but in 1996 he endorsed and campaigned for, Arlen Specter’s presidential run, to change the GOP to a pro-abortion platform.

Santorum was devoted to Specter (under the radar and behind the scenes), and supported him against Toomey in both 2004, and 2010.

Specter, with Santorum on stage, endorsing and clapping:
“I want to take abortion out of politics. I want to keep the Republican Party focused on the vital economic and foreign policy issues — and leave moral issues such as abortion to the conscience of the individual. I believe abortion is an issue to be decided by women.”
“I pledge to lead the fight to strip the strident anti-choice language from the Republican National platform.”


23 posted on 04/02/2014 9:03:42 AM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: jospehm20
Santorum backed Specter over Toomey. Was he great then?

And this is why he is unelectable. He betrayed us.

24 posted on 04/02/2014 9:07:39 AM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: GIdget2004

If I wanted a ‘RockStar’ candidate,, it won’t be a recycled politico.


25 posted on 04/02/2014 9:07:56 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
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To: Resettozero

> “Curious as to why you think that is.”

How about because of his history to date?


26 posted on 04/02/2014 9:13:44 AM PDT by jim_trent
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To: BeadCounter
Let's not the forget the massive voter fraud in Philly and Pgh. along with union thuggery.
27 posted on 04/02/2014 9:33:03 AM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: John O

My Senator Cornyn also supported Specter over Toomey. I won’t vote for him anymore either.


28 posted on 04/02/2014 9:34:34 AM PDT by jospehm20
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To: gdani
R2Z: Do you think that also applies to Palin?

gdani: Palin does not hold office anywhere because she does not want to.

She learned years ago she makes much more money, with much less stress, by writing books, giving speeches, having 100 TV shows, etc.

Every once in awhile she'll tease people with the idea she *might* run for president. But that's more about keeping her name in the news & making money than actually running for office.


Thanks; I've notice Santorum boosters on FR tend not to support Palin very much.
29 posted on 04/02/2014 9:36:41 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: jim_trent
R2z: “Curious as to why you think that is.”

How about because of his history to date?

Good response. Thanks.
30 posted on 04/02/2014 9:39:16 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: GIdget2004

Getting weary of what and who ever running to lefty advocate publications like the New York Times or Wapoo and their edited pontifications given any credit. If they appear here don’t give a damm what they say or think.


31 posted on 04/02/2014 10:04:55 AM PDT by mosesdapoet (Serious contribution pause.Please continue onto meaningless venting no one reads.)
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To: ansel12

chest beating always enhances one’s argument...


32 posted on 04/02/2014 10:07:26 AM PDT by RitchieAprile
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To: RitchieAprile

What are you talking about?

Was that strange post an emotional lashing out, because you can’t challenge any facts in post 23?


33 posted on 04/02/2014 10:50:39 AM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: Resettozero

Palin may have been the most popular governor in history and left office with very high approval ratings.

Palin left to lead a national movement, and has changed the political landscape and moved the GOP right, and has helped elect Governors, Congressmen, and Senators like Ted Cruz.

Santorum is a guy who has been desperately seeking work since he was booted out of the Senate by an historical loss for an incumbent Senator.

About 18 points, even worse than the infamous Christine O’Donnell race, and she wasn’t a 12 year incumbent.


34 posted on 04/02/2014 10:57:49 AM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: ansel12
Palin may have been the most popular governor in history and left office with very high approval ratings. Palin left to lead a national movement, and has changed the political landscape and moved the GOP right, and has helped elect Governors, Congressmen, and Senators like Ted Cruz.

Santorum is a guy who has been desperately seeking work since he was booted out of the Senate by an historical loss for an incumbent Senator.

About 18 points, even worse than the infamous Christine O’Donnell race, and she wasn’t a 12 year incumbent.


In total agreement with you. And it bears repeating.
35 posted on 04/02/2014 11:16:26 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: ansel12; Resettozero
Santorum has learned how to whip up some Conservatives, by appealing to their wish lists of how a moral society should operate in certain particulars; but he is no Conservative--nor does he seem to even understand the context of some of his favorite issues.

While he is postulating his moral absolutes, he fails to recognize the legal context--that is, what level of Government is responsible in a particular area of concern. The Founding Fathers deliberately left the Police Powers (health, safety & moral concerns) to the States & local governments. Santorum seems indifferent to the most basic divisions of responsibility in his rush to prohibit what offends him. That is neither Conservative, nor moral. It shows an undisciplined fanaticism, but nothing useful in returning America to her principles, both political & cultural.

William Flax

36 posted on 04/02/2014 11:30:02 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: ansel12

in re sactorum, I totally agree. that was a response to the namecalling referred to in your post.


37 posted on 04/02/2014 12:07:17 PM PDT by RitchieAprile
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To: Ohioan
It shows an undisciplined fanaticism,...

That can often be dangerous. I didn't get the same reading about Santorum, though: his being a fanatic. With the few I've talked with here in the South, his allegiance to Rome seemed more of a concern to voters than, say, John Kennedy's brand, or Newt Gingrich's newly-converted brand.

The main thing Santorum had going in the South was his stance on abortion. Beating that drum got monotonous here since RTL'ers disagreed with other aspects of his politics. I don't see him getting as much support here in 2016 as he had against Romney. And Romney was a big reason Santorum received support here in 2012.
38 posted on 04/02/2014 12:11:49 PM PDT by Resettozero
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To: cripplecreek
If anybody was helping Romney it was you.

I beg to differ. I never even sent money to his campaign let alone vote for him.


39 posted on 04/02/2014 12:38:56 PM PDT by tsowellfan (www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: tsowellfan

Whatever, You just accused everybody you opposed of secretly working for him like every other Alinskyite.


40 posted on 04/02/2014 12:41:15 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: napscoordinator

I thought Santorum was on his way, and then he had to start talking about compromise. We don’t want compromise, we want a clear, articulate constitutional conservative vision that will inspire people and win them over. That leaves a field of one...Ted Cruz.


41 posted on 04/02/2014 12:44:38 PM PDT by grania
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To: Ohioan
While he is postulating his moral absolutes, he fails to recognize the legal context--that is, what level of Government is responsible in a particular area of concern. The Founding Fathers deliberately left the Police Powers (health, safety & moral concerns) to the States & local governments. Santorum seems indifferent to the most basic divisions of responsibility in his rush to prohibit what offends him. That is neither Conservative, nor moral. It shows an undisciplined fanaticism, but nothing useful in returning America to her principles, both political & cultural.

Libertarians promote anti-American social liberalism at ALL levels of government, it is why Rand Paul has moved to support gay marriage and social liberalism, although he is a Senator, and is running for President, federal office.

42 posted on 04/02/2014 12:46:43 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: KoRn
Agreed. Another unelectable individual is Perry who did "a heck of a job" in Texas. That gaff during the debates in the last cycle killed him.
43 posted on 04/02/2014 12:48:17 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
"That gaff during the debates in the last cycle killed him."

Which one? LOL His presence in the debates were just one huge Gaff. I love the guy, but how in the hell does one get elected to anything being such a HORRIBLE public speaker? He made Bush look like a scholar. If he runs again, he'll have to be a whole lot more prepared.

44 posted on 04/02/2014 1:13:46 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: cripplecreek
You just accused everybody you opposed of secretly working for him like every other Alinskyite.

I supported Rick Santorum back in 2008 when he ran as a conservative before he stepped down and then endorsed Mitt Romney as the only "conservative" who can win.

I opposed Ron Paul but never even gave it a thought that he was working for Mitt Romney. I opposed the former ambassador to China, liberal republican but never accused him of working for Mitt Romney, I cannot recall accusing any other republican of secretly working for Mitt Romney except Rick Santorum who did it twice already. Heck, I'm one of the few who never blamed Ross Perot for losing the election for George H W Bush in '92 (even though I was far from supporting the man).

If Rick Santorum had stayed out of the 2012 primary (or at least admitted he felt that his "opponent Mitt Romney" is a "conservative" like himself (as he stated in 2008) then he would have appeared more consistant. But instead, in 2012 he ran against Mitt Romney accusing him of "not being conservative". And in the end what did he do again in 2012? Endorsed Mitt Romney as the only "conservative" in the race to beat Barack Obama.

That's not being an "Alinskyite", it's called recognizing reality.

I do not oppose any issue Rick Santorum ran on and ran for. I support EVERYTHING that Rick Santorum claims he stands for. It's just that I know what he says he stands for and what he really is are two different things.

45 posted on 04/02/2014 7:14:29 PM PDT by tsowellfan (www.cafenetamerica.com)
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