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Furor at Catholic high school after nun presents Church teaching on homosexuality
LIFE SITE NEWS ^ | Kirsten Andersen

Posted on 04/02/2014 6:57:22 PM PDT by Morgana

CHARLOTTE, NC, April 2, 2014 (LifeSiteNews.com) – A North Carolina Roman Catholic school is holding a meeting today to address the concerns of parents and students who say they are outraged about remarks a visiting nun made criticizing homosexuality, divorce, and sex outside of marriage during a recent speech.

Dominican Sister Jane Dominic Laurel, who often speaks to high school and college-age students on matters of sexuality, gave an hour-long presentation to students at Charlotte Catholic High School on March 21 called “Masculinity and Femininity: Difference and Gift.” School officials told the Catholic News Herald she spent about half her allotted time discussing homosexuality, blaming its rising influence in part on fatherless homes created by divorce and extramarital sex.

Sister Laurel is a member of the Dominican Sisters of St. Cecilia, often called the Nashville Dominicans, which is an order known for its fidelity to the Magisterium.

Although the Catholic Church has always held both homosexual behavior and sex outside of marriage to be gravely sinful, students and parents at the Catholic school reacted to her remarks with shock and anger, launching both an online petition and a letter-writing campaign calling the sister’s words “offensive and unnecessarily derogatory.”

“We the students of Charlotte Catholic High School would like to issue a formal complaint regarding Sr. Jane Dominic’s speech given on on [sic] Friday, March 21st,” the petition begins. “We found some of ideas [sic] expressed to be both offensive and unnecessarily derogatory. We are incensed that you knew the content of this speech and allowed these ideas to be expressed in a school that should be preaching a message of love and acceptance.”

“As rational people, we know that most homosexual people lead healthy, normal and productive lives like their heterosexual counterparts,” the students wrote. “We resent the fact that a school wide assembly became a stage to blast the issue of homosexuality after Pope Francis said in an interview this past fall that ‘we can not [sic] insist only on issues related to abortion, gay marriage and the use of contraceptives [sic] methods. We are angry that someone decided they knew better than our Holy Father and invited a speaker who addressed the issue of homosexuality to our school to speak twice in the course of one school year.”

Students weren’t the only ones outraged by the sister’s remarks. Parents have supplemented the students’ petition with an e-mail campaign targeting the Diocese of Charlotte, the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, and the Vatican with complaints about Sr. Jane’s speech.

“In my home, there was outrage, embarrassment, sadness, disbelief, and further reason for my 16-year-old to move as far away from her religion as possible and as soon as she can,” wrote divorcee Shelley Earnhardt, according to the Charlotte Observer.

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Another letter sent to school officials and signed by current students and alumni said, “Last week’s presentation represents a betrayal of trust. Your responsibility to provide nurturing and informative education to the students of Charlotte Catholic was shrugged off. Your mission to truthfully convey the teachings of the Church—the teachings of love, compassion, and humility—was replaced by teachings of hate and intolerance.”

Parents, alumni and students involved in the petition and letter writing campaigns are demanding that the school and Church apologize.

But not all students were upset by the nun’s presentation. A group of students who adhere to Catholic teaching on sexuality have launched a counter-petition condemning the protesters’ actions. “We are outraged that the topics talked about are being debated within a community where the shared faith teaches us what truly is holy and that anyone would stand up against a nun, who has given her life for the Lord, and blantly [sic] deny God's teachings,” the petition reads.

The students defending Sister Jane say, “We believe that every human regardless of gender, race, or sexual orientation, should be treated with love and respect.” They add, “We accept homosexual men and women into our community with open arms.” But they explain, “We do not approve of homosexual marriage or activities, because we understand that it is against the Holy Bible. … We believe that it is important to discuss these topics so that the young people of today may better understand righteousness and God's divine will.”

Reaction from local Church officials has been largely supportive of Sister Jane.

Fr. Tim Reid, pastor of St. Ann Catholic Church, sent out a mass email which said in part, “She represented well the Catholic positions on marriage, sex, same-sex attraction and proper gender roles. … The Church has already lost too many generations of Catholic schools students to … a very muddled and watered-down faith.”

Fr. Roger Arnsparger, diocesan vicar for education, stated, "Our students are bombarded with confusing messages about sexuality. Our task in religious formation is always to help people understand the meaning of love and relationships."

Although Sister Jane has the backing of the local bishop and clergy, she has withdrawn from another planned speaking event in Charlotte which had been scheduled for May during the 2014 Diocesan Youth Conference. Fr. Arnsparger announced the change in a statement today, and said Sr. Jane’s mother superior, not the diocese, had made the call.

"I completely understand the decision of Sister’s Mother Superior that the timing is not right for her to make a return visit to the diocese,” Arnsparger wrote. “It was very thoughtful of Sister Jane to withdraw from this planned speaking engagement as the Diocese of Charlotte deals with the concern of parents of Charlotte Catholic High School students. Sister Jane Dominic has been a frequent speaker throughout the country and we look forward to learning from her in the future."

The April 2 meeting will take place in the school’s gym. Representatives from both the school and the diocese will be on hand for the discussion.

Contact:

Charlotte Catholic High School Phone: 704-543-1127

Diocese of Charlotte Phone: (704) 370-6299 E-mail: chancery@charlottediocese.org


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KEYWORDS: alreadyposted; catholic; homosexualagenda; moralabsolutes; nc; northcarolina; romancatholicism; sisterjane
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1 posted on 04/02/2014 6:57:22 PM PDT by Morgana
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To: Morgana
"She represented well the Catholic positions on marriage, sex, same-sex attraction and proper gender roles. "

The Bible makes Clear statements on these matters.

If the parents dont like it they are free to fume and fret.




2 posted on 04/02/2014 7:00:42 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill)
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To: Morgana

I’ve met Sister Jane. She is an awesome clear voice.

Great opportunity for the kids that are actually Catholic at this school to stand their ground.


3 posted on 04/02/2014 7:01:44 PM PDT by rwilson99 (Please tell me how the words "shall not perish and have everlasting life" would NOT apply to Mary.)
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To: MeshugeMikey

Blah blah blah. Move to a public school if you don’t like scripture.


4 posted on 04/02/2014 7:02:22 PM PDT by jimpick
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To: Morgana

And the alternative message is......


5 posted on 04/02/2014 7:03:09 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: Morgana

How can anyone be a member of the Church and be offended by the truth?Just pathetic.


6 posted on 04/02/2014 7:04:14 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: Morgana

I’m gonna bet this scene is fake and there were no “mass” protesters...


7 posted on 04/02/2014 7:04:28 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: MeshugeMikey

> outraged about remarks a visiting nun made criticizing
> homosexuality, divorce, and sex outside of marriage
> during a recent speech.

The outrage is that these parents don’t agree with her.

They should be promptly excommunicated, if they are church attendees, and their children expelled from the school.

Then they can send their kids to the government school collective where they will be taught that all that (mis)behavior is just ducky.

In fact, it’s taught not only as acceptable behavior, but celebrated as superior to any form of Biblical morality.


8 posted on 04/02/2014 7:06:52 PM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: Morgana
Parents, alumni and students involved in the petition and letter writing campaigns are demanding that the school and Church apologize.

You just know that there are professional activists at work here.

9 posted on 04/02/2014 7:09:10 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: Morgana
“In my home, there was outrage, embarrassment, sadness, disbelief, and further reason for my 16-year-old to move as far away from her religion as possible and as soon as she can,” wrote divorcee Shelley Earnhardt, according to the Charlotte Observer.

If neither the mother nor the daughter support the basic tenets of the Catholic faith, then why are they calling it 'their religion'?

Besides, they can always join the Episcopalians....

10 posted on 04/02/2014 7:10:31 PM PDT by zipper ("The Second Amendment IS my carry permit!" -- Ted Nugent)
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To: jimpick

WELL SAID !!!!

Why don’t they pull their kids out of there???


12 posted on 04/02/2014 7:12:55 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie
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To: MeshugeMikey
If the parents dont like it they are free to fume and fret.

And they are free to take their children to a different school.
13 posted on 04/02/2014 7:13:02 PM PDT by rottndog ('Live Free Or Die' Ain't just words on a bumber sticker...or a tagline.)
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To: zipper

Wow!

If all it takes for this kiddo to move away from her faith/religion is a one hour talk by a nun, wait till she gets to college. HA!

Hope that this kiddo’s mama enjoys taking care of the grandbaby the girl will have without a father in marriage...


14 posted on 04/02/2014 7:16:20 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie
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To: Morgana

The students at that school, for the most part, are not there for the religious aspect. They are there because the PARENTS don’t want their precious darlings mingling with the “gangstas” and “free & reduced lunch” kids found in public schools.


15 posted on 04/02/2014 7:17:42 PM PDT by moovova
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To: rottndog

What is it with these people who go to Catholic institutions of learning and want to change the faith and have the schools follow THEIR idea of what the religion should be...gO IN PEACE, MY CHILD..BUT JUST GO.


16 posted on 04/02/2014 7:18:11 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie
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To: rottndog

INDEED they are Indeed they are!!

we cant have children leaning about MORALITY now can we?


17 posted on 04/02/2014 7:19:06 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill)
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To: Westbrook

The topsy turvy world of evil nonsense will wlecome them with open arms.


18 posted on 04/02/2014 7:20:22 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill)
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To: Morgana

I am not sure why these people are so outraged. They pay a lot of money to send their kids to a school where they have a pretty good idea of what will be taught.

They are not being taught that homosexuals should be hated. They are merely being taught about some possible causes and how the deterioration of the traditional family contributes.

As a homosexual myself the good sister is correct. A vast majority of homosexuals are not “born” that way. They are products of their environment. People should be more open minded and not be so quick to shut people up because they don’t like what they hear. It only proves how intolerant they really are, that includes homosexuals who are intolerant to deeply held beliefs by millions of people for thousands of years.

I commend the sister and the church for not softening their position on social issues. Certain values stand the test of time.


19 posted on 04/02/2014 7:22:12 PM PDT by TheArizona
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To: Morgana

I am not sure why these people are so outraged. They pay a lot of money to send their kids to a school where they have a pretty good idea of what will be taught.

They are not being taught that homosexuals should be hated. They are merely being taught about some possible causes and how the deterioration of the traditional family contributes.

As a homosexual myself the good sister is correct. A vast majority of homosexuals are not “born” that way. They are products of their environment. People should be more open minded and not be so quick to shut people up because they don’t like what they hear. It only proves how intolerant they really are, that includes homosexuals who are intolerant to deeply held beliefs by millions of people for thousands of years.

I commend the sister and the church for not softening their position on social issues. Certain values stand the test of time.


20 posted on 04/02/2014 7:23:19 PM PDT by TheArizona
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To: Morgana

Why send your rug rats to a church school if you’re gonna complain when someone there ( merely voices ) the church’s moral teachings? Seems to me moral instruction or guidance is a church school’s number one distinctive ( or, for many of us, attraction). If these parents want to let their kids think it’s just fine and dandy for everyone to go out and screw anybody or anything they can “ hook up with” then we have some very sicko parents raising some very sicko children. Pray that the school has the courage to continue morality in its curriculum! .


21 posted on 04/02/2014 7:32:03 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ((Brilliant, Profound Tag Line Goes Here, just as soon as I can think of one..))
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To: Morgana

Sounded like she spoke up for the Christian point of view.

These folks “normal” and “healthy”? Sure, after they get through whining about the suicide rate. Make up your minds.


22 posted on 04/02/2014 7:32:56 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Morgana

Sister Jane Dominic Laurel told the truth. May God protect her through his integrity.


23 posted on 04/02/2014 7:36:23 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: MeshugeMikey

**If the parents dont like it they are free to fume and fret. **

And take their children elsewhere.


24 posted on 04/02/2014 7:37:18 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: TheArizona

I sympathize with anyone who got into this habit and now wants to get out.


25 posted on 04/02/2014 7:43:22 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Mike Darancette

Wonder if these professional activist may be part of the Democrat party workers. They use the church and church organizations such as the Knights of Columbus to get votes. The Kennedys are notorious for this.


26 posted on 04/02/2014 7:47:03 PM PDT by cradle of freedom
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27 posted on 04/02/2014 7:49:21 PM PDT by narses (Matthew 7:6. He appears to have made up his mind let him live with the consequences.)
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To: Morgana

I have met her and have worked at a Catholic Youth Conference for many summers, in which she was a conference speaker. She does an awesome job!


28 posted on 04/02/2014 7:53:09 PM PDT by MasonGal
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To: Vendome

“I’m gonna bet this scene is fake and there were no “mass” protesters...”

I’ll bet along with you. It just doesn’t make sense that there was a “mass” protest. Catholic parents send their children to Catholic schools so that their teachings are enforced by the teachers and speakers. This article reads like a put up version by a Catholic hater.


29 posted on 04/02/2014 7:55:14 PM PDT by kitkat (STORM THE HEAVENS WITH PRAYERS FOR OUR COUNTRY)
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To: Morgana
“In my home, there was outrage, embarrassment, sadness, disbelief, and further reason for my 16-year-old to move as far away from her religion as possible and as soon as she can,” wrote divorcee Shelley Earnhardt, according to the Charlotte Observer.

Please go.

30 posted on 04/02/2014 7:58:29 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: Morgana

Sounds like these are the types of Catholics who vote for the rock star catholic politicians like kennedy, pelosi, biden and cuomos..


31 posted on 04/02/2014 8:01:49 PM PDT by delchiante
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To: Morgana

I don’t usually pick quotes from the Bible, but this just begs for it. Isaiah 5:20: Woe to those who call evil good and good evil,


32 posted on 04/02/2014 8:19:29 PM PDT by budj (beam me up, scotty...)
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To: Morgana

Plenty of non-Catholics go to Catholic Schools and in conjunction with progressive and poorly catechized Catholics this kind of reaction was bound to occur. God bless Sister and pray that her good work continues.


33 posted on 04/02/2014 8:29:36 PM PDT by pleasenotcalifornia
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To: Morgana

The Dominican Sisters are a true blessing. I am personally leaving them a chunk of change in my will. These Sisters are selfless and I am so proud of everything they do.


34 posted on 04/02/2014 8:36:51 PM PDT by AdamBomb
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To: moovova

At the Catholic Schools I attended these students and parents would be asked to leave and if that did not work the students would be expelled.
This school either takes the stand of standing for Catholic doctrines or they bend to the will of the Homosexual Mafia.


35 posted on 04/02/2014 8:42:56 PM PDT by WilliamRobert (Obama so loves the poor he created millions more.)
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To: Morgana

The Nun was saying what was previously said, right? I think we still have the right to Free Speech, at least so far.


36 posted on 04/02/2014 8:48:43 PM PDT by Rembrandt (Part of the 51% who pay Federal taxes)
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To: Farmer Dean

They probably never heard these things before in that school. Which is an epic fail


37 posted on 04/02/2014 8:50:55 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: TheArizona

Apparently nothing she talked about is actually taught or there would be no surprise


38 posted on 04/02/2014 8:53:03 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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“In my home, there was outrage, embarrassment, sadness, disbelief, and further reason for my 16-year-old to move as far away from her religion as possible and as soon as she can,” wrote divorcee Shelley Earnhardt, according to the Charlotte Observer. “

Proper Response from school: “you are free to remove your daughter from the school anytime you would like. If you intend on her staying you should be expecting more of the same.”


39 posted on 04/02/2014 8:56:30 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
I sympathize with anyone who got into this habit and now wants to get out.

Who, the nun or the homosexual?

40 posted on 04/02/2014 8:59:22 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: Morgana

If this Catholic school was in Massachusetts or New York City, or San Francisco I might not be surprised. But I always thought that North Carolina was considered part of the Bible Belt. Very surprising that Catholics there find the Church’s teachings on sex to be offensive and unacceptable for their children.


41 posted on 04/02/2014 9:11:55 PM PDT by Nevadan
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To: HiTech RedNeck
“Habit” is an interesting word to describe it. Although I am not sure how your statement is relevant to the article.

If your referring to me personally. Don't hold your breath. Unlike most of the degenerate homosexual population (for the sake of argument lets call it 2% and even that is probably too high). Only a very tiny fraction was actually born homosexual. Whats the difference you ask? I'll be the first to say that homosexuality is not normal and anyone that says otherwise is lying or deluding themselves. I am completely opposed to the homosexual Mafia and the way they go about achieving it. They are dangerous to society. I do not wish to teach your children about it or even expose them to it.

Those of us that are like me, you would never know we were homosexual. I for example, do not have short hair, I do not wear flannel shirts or belt buckles, I do not wear men's shoes or clothes or dress like a man or pretend to be man or wish I was a man. (I do dove, quail, deer, and javelina hunt so that's the only exception). Nor do I hate men. This distinguishes me from your average, run of the mill, typical, self hating, homosexual woman or a dyke as I refer to them.

Even so, it wouldn't be that easy to stop my “habit”. 13 years ago I did Evenings for the Engaged and made vows to my spouse's Deacon, promised to raise any children Catholic. I also have 2 sons and a daughter so I am not walking away from my family. My spouse goes to church every Sunday with our sons and gets Communion and yes, the Church is well aware of our family. There is no govt license, it is a Precious Moments certificate with a few legal docs behind it and a lifelong vow. I don't need the govt or by extension the people to approve or disapprove of our commitment. Do I call it Marriage? I try not to because we do not wish to intrude upon something that is historically and rightfully something that belongs to 1 man and 1 woman. Do I call it a civil union? No because that is a concept created by the homosexual Mafia to eventually hijack marriage and I am opposed to that. We are merely a committed monogamous couple that live by church teachings as best we can. Yes we have our one sin, but who among us does not have one?

42 posted on 04/02/2014 9:19:35 PM PDT by TheArizona
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>>Dominican Sister Jane Dominic Laurel, who often speaks to high school and college-age students on matters of sexuality, gave an hour-long presentation to students at Charlotte Catholic High School on March 21 called “Masculinity and Femininity: Difference and Gift.” School officials told the Catholic News Herald she spent about half her allotted time discussing homosexuality, blaming its rising influence in part on fatherless homes created by divorce and extramarital sex.<<

Imagine that! Sister Laurel God Bless you for speaking truth.


43 posted on 04/02/2014 9:22:15 PM PDT by redleghunter (But let your word 'yes be 'yes,' and your 'no be 'no.' Anything more than this is from the evil one.)
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To: Farmer Dean

A large number of students in Catholic schools are from secular or non practicing Catholic families. Back when I went to Catholic school in the 80s maybe a handful were such. But today the numbers have swelled due to parents wanting a better education than the zoo environment of public schools. At least in heavily northern urban/suburban areas.


44 posted on 04/02/2014 9:26:41 PM PDT by redleghunter (But let your word 'yes be 'yes,' and your 'no be 'no.' Anything more than this is from the evil one.)
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To: Morgana
"“As rational people, we know that most homosexual people lead healthy, normal and productive lives like their heterosexual counterparts,” "

Bullsh!t.

45 posted on 04/02/2014 9:29:16 PM PDT by matthew fuller (No, I don't miss GWB- I miss Dick Cheney and Don Rumsfeld.)
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To: GeronL

I did not think of that. Interesting. So took a visiting sister to shake things up.


46 posted on 04/02/2014 9:30:31 PM PDT by redleghunter (But let your word 'yes be 'yes,' and your 'no be 'no.' Anything more than this is from the evil one.)
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To: redleghunter; GeronL

“I did not think of that”

I sure did! This is a Catholic school, those kids should have been learning this since the 1st grade! I was so shocked to read this article.

““We found some of ideas [sic] expressed to be both offensive and unnecessarily derogatory. We are incensed that you knew the content of this speech and allowed these ideas to be expressed in a school that should be preaching a message of love and acceptance.””

You’ve got to be kidding me!!! Offensive? Derogatory? It’s called basic Catholic Catechism that these kids should have already known not this neo hippie love fest crap. Sounds like Sister Jane needs to be principal of the school.


47 posted on 04/02/2014 9:56:15 PM PDT by Morgana (Wagglebee please come home we miss you!)
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“How can anyone be a member of the Church and be offended by the truth?Just pathetic.”

Change the word “the” to “any.” Then send it off to Joe Biden, Nazi Pelousey, Dingy Harry, Dianne Fineswine, et.al. If the “so-called churches” can’t even articulate their centuries old tenets, and have their “members” agree, then they are in deep yogurt. Transgressors should be excommunicated. I would not be a member of most of them today simply because they are unwilling to defend their faiths. Enough money and/or power and you can write your own “rules” with most of them. But then it’s really just another “business,” the only difference is the “product.”


48 posted on 04/02/2014 10:01:14 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: Morgana; redleghunter

Morgana is exactly right


49 posted on 04/02/2014 10:08:32 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Morgana
“As rational people, we know that most homosexual people lead healthy, normal and productive lives like their heterosexual counterparts,” the students wrote.

If cutting your life expectancy in half, burning through excessive healthcare using other people's money, using drugs, living in violent domestic arrangements, chasing children for sex and eating poop, is healthy, normal and productive, then the kids are right.

50 posted on 04/02/2014 10:17:32 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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