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Stanley Furniture Closing Robbinsville Plant (North Carolina)
Woodworking Network ^ | April 1, 2014

Posted on 04/02/2014 10:17:02 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: bert

“We don’t want a self contained Market

We want global market to sell In to”

Until the no tariff movement of the 1990’s we had protective tariffs and were freely trading with other nations around the globe. Tariffs do not preclude selling into foreign markets.

I have yet to see any analysis that suggests there was a net economic benefit to the United States from eradicating tariffs and quotas through the WTO, NAFTA, CAFTA, and the other “free trade” agreements of the last 25 years. I have observed the economic devastation, declining standards of living for the first time in our nation’s history, and the gutting of the US industrial infrastructure that has occurred since 1990. I also know our national security has been harmed by the loss of manufacturing self sufficiency.


61 posted on 04/03/2014 5:03:46 PM PDT by Soul of the South (Yesterday is gone. Today will be what we make of it.)
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To: Teacher317

“(Our overlords are also doing EVERYTHING they can do keep inflation at an absolute minimum,”

The purpose of the massive money printing by the Federal reserve is to stave off deflation, not prevent inflation. Expanding the money supply without a corresponding increase in productivity and economic output will ultimately result in inflation. The administration’s current push for a large hike in the minimum wage is also inflationary.

With respect to raising prices, when manufacturers moved production to Asia and realized cost decreases of 30-50%, did they reduce prices to the consumer by an equivalent amount? No, they realized higher margins and retained them as profits. Those profits were invested in building China into the industrial powerhouse it is today. The American consumer did not see the benefit of lower costs in the form of lower prices.

If the consumer did not benefit from lower prices when production moved offshore, why would consumers necessarily experience price increases if tariffs are increased back to historical (1980’s) levels? Perhaps importers and foreign factories will accept lower margins to price competitively. Perhaps newly constructed US factories with new equipment and motivated US workers will be more productive than Chinese factories. Perhaps the Chinese government will increase export subsidies to Chinese factories in order to help the factories offset the cost of the tariffs. To the degree the Chinese government must divert resources from its rapid military buildup we benefit.

Foreign factories selling into a large no tariff market accrue significant benefits particularly when the taxpayer bears the many of the infrastructure costs of imports. Harbors and ports are maintained with tax dollars, waterways are dredged with tax dollars, the Coast Guard provides protection and rescue services to ships bringing goods into our ports, the cost of customs and homeland security inspections of imports is borne by the taxpayer. The presence of the US Navy makes the major shipping lanes around the planet safe for ocean transit. US citizens and US companies pay taxes for the roads inside the US used by foreign factories to ship their goods to warehouses and retail locations inside the United States. Why should the US taxpayer and US companies bear these costs for foreign factories? Let them pay for these services, as well as access to one of the largest markets on the planet, via tariffs.

Finally, I personally would prefer to pay a couple of dollars more for a toaster or shirt if it were made in an American factory by an American worker who was enjoying a middle class lifestyle and paying taxes than to pay the same amount or more in taxes to fund welfare benefits for the unemployed, not to mention the subsidies of foreign imports paid for with tax money described above.

The true unemployment rate today in the United States is about 20% if you count all of the able bodied people of working age who the government claims have dropped out of the workplace thanks to the loss of millions of manufacturing jobs and jobs in the supply chains that used to support those factories. Bring the factories back to give these people a chance at decent paying middle class jobs and you’ll see welfare rolls decline as well as government spending on social services


62 posted on 04/03/2014 5:31:53 PM PDT by Soul of the South (Yesterday is gone. Today will be what we make of it.)
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To: Soul of the South

doesn’t matter ....what is past is past


63 posted on 04/03/2014 5:44:00 PM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: Soul of the South

“The true unemployment rate today in the United States is about 20% if you count all of the able bodied people of working age who the government claims have dropped out of the workplace thanks to the loss of millions of manufacturing jobs and jobs in the supply chains that used to support those factories. Bring the factories back to give these people a chance at decent paying middle class jobs and you’ll see welfare rolls decline as well as government spending on social services”

I’ve been following the out of the workforce numbers and those numbers are shocking really. 80.9 million jumped to 90 million in Obama’s first four years and now it’s up to 101 million as of March. 9 million the first four years and 11 million this last year alone. A service economy is unsustainable for our country should be pretty obvious.


64 posted on 04/03/2014 8:51:42 PM PDT by OftheOhio (never could dance but always could kata - Romeo company)
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To: re_nortex
profitability is unsustainable.

Please post some examples of an UNPROFITABLE manufacturing company that moved to China or elsewhere and then became profitable again. Every company I've researched was making a 5-7% margin already on manufactured goods made in the USA. The motive to offshore was for MORE profit.

FREEPERS don't listen to this snake oil salesmen, ONLY 10%(and shrinking- a good thing) OF THE USA's MANUFACTURING WORKERS ARE IN A UNION.

The goal of the gloBULList anti-American off shoring Free Traitors is to make as much money as possible creating huge unemployment and laying the seeds of socialism in the USA. As long as they get theirs before the socialism really kicks in they are good. They could care lees about the Constitution or Conservative values, they are libertarians and look at the USA as an economic zone of trade.

65 posted on 04/04/2014 6:05:15 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I truely feel sorry for the people in Robinsville. I’ve been thougt that area, this will be major event for them and the area around the plant, even more dramatic that when the Virginia plants closed.


66 posted on 04/13/2014 4:21:00 PM PDT by Danica Ravenheart
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