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Oil Trains Start Rumbling Into California: Expect a Fierce Political Battle
American Thinker ^ | 04/03/2014 | Chriss Street

Posted on 04/03/2014 8:31:03 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Phillips 66, formerly a division of energy giant ConocoPhillips, recently filed a project proposal to bring mile-long crude oil trains from Canada and North Dakota to its refinery in California’s San Luis Obispo County.  If approved, the project would mean up to 250 trains a year will each haul 2 million gallons of crude oil into California and travel on the same tracks used for Amtrak commuter railtrains in the San Francisco Bay Area. With oil fracking increasing America’s domestic production by 60% in the last three years, political delays in building the Keystone XL Pipeline resulted in California having the only refining capacity available in America.  But a with horrible safety record, a political battle will heat up in California over oil trains.

America oil production since 2008 is up by about 60% to 2.7 billion barrels a year.In 2013, total U.S. crude oil production grew by 15% to 7.4 million barrels per day as fracking of underground shale formations in the Eagle Ford field of Texas and Bakken in North Dakota allowed both of those states to grow production by 29% for the year.  In three years, output grew in North Dakota by 177% and in Texas by 119%. 

Railroads have been making fortunes carrying North Dakota crude oil from the Bakken field at an average of $17 a barrel of crude oil to Texas refineries versus an estimated $10 a barrel if the Keystone XL Pipeline had been built.  The key beneficiary of this bonanza has been Warren Buffet’s Berkshire Hathaway Corporation that purchased the Burlington Northern Railway (BNI) in 2009. 

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; energy; environmentalist; oil; rail

1 posted on 04/03/2014 8:31:03 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
Railroads have been making fortunes carrying North Dakota crude oil from the Bakken field at an average of $17 a barrel of crude oil...

No wonder there are so many pipelines.

2 posted on 04/03/2014 8:35:59 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: SeekAndFind

No one rides Amtrack anyway, so whats the problem?


3 posted on 04/03/2014 8:36:29 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: skeeter

Ditto for Caltrain.


4 posted on 04/03/2014 8:41:05 AM PDT by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (I'm not anti-government, government's anti-me.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Idiot leftoids will ride petroleum powered transportation to the rally against petroleum.


5 posted on 04/03/2014 8:45:01 AM PDT by Iron Munro (The future ain't what it use to be -- Yogi Berra)
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To: SeekAndFind

ALL energy producing companies outside of CA should cease supplying them, entirely and immediately. Open the breakers, cut them off. Let them have their ‘pristine’ paradise, without any energy not produced in state. No gasoline, no oil, no electricity. CA environment is just as important as AZ, NV, and any other.


6 posted on 04/03/2014 8:46:54 AM PDT by RoadGumby (This is not where I belong, Take this world and give me Jesus.)
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To: SeekAndFind

ALL energy producing companies outside of CA should cease supplying them, entirely and immediately. Open the breakers, cut them off. Let them have their ‘pristine’ paradise, without any energy not produced in state. No gasoline, no oil, no electricity. CA environment is just as important as AZ, NV, and any other.


7 posted on 04/03/2014 8:47:38 AM PDT by RoadGumby (This is not where I belong, Take this world and give me Jesus.)
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To: SeekAndFind
The key beneficiary of this bonanza has been Warren Buffet’s Berkshire Hathaway Corporation that purchased the Burlington Northern Railway (BNI) in 2009.

Now we know why Democrats oppose Keystone.

8 posted on 04/03/2014 8:51:22 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: SeekAndFind
With oil fracking increasing America’s domestic production by 60% in the last three years

Now, there's a truly astonishing stat! And entirely the work of private enterprise, indeed intentionally hampered by government regulation.

Incentivized by the massive potential profits.

Even greater profits are out there for someone who develops a truly clean way to burn coal. Would be quite surprised if considerable resources aren't being devoted to finding one.

9 posted on 04/03/2014 8:52:14 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: SeekAndFind
If I were king, I would prohibit all oil imports to California until they emptied the oil reserves off their own coasts.
10 posted on 04/03/2014 8:54:25 AM PDT by Pecos (The Chicago Way: Kill the Constitution, one step at a time.)
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To: skeeter

Another EcoNut Misfire.


11 posted on 04/03/2014 8:55:34 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: SeekAndFind
Worth noting:

Before the "refinery row" complex between Salt Lake City and Ogden was built, all Utah-produced oil was shipped by the trainload to San Francisco Bay area refineries for processing.

12 posted on 04/03/2014 8:55:36 AM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media -- IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: Iron Munro

How long till one of these enviro whackos sabotages a train to create a spill? Then the media will jump in and say “oh no! enviromental disaster!


13 posted on 04/03/2014 8:57:37 AM PDT by V_TWIN
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To: SeekAndFind

Sooner or later one of these trains is going to come rolling downhill from the Sierras without a full set of brakes. That will be interesting to see.


14 posted on 04/03/2014 8:59:11 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: skeeter

“No one rides Amtrack anyway”

Who can afford it? It’s rediculously expensive.


15 posted on 04/03/2014 9:00:09 AM PDT by V_TWIN
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To: RoadGumby

Agree


16 posted on 04/03/2014 9:05:53 AM PDT by Vinnie
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To: SeekAndFind
But a with horrible safety record, a political battle will heat up in California over oil trains.

I stopped reading after this.

"horrible" is activist hyperbole.

Then only show a photo of a disaster. Nice.

Let's have a discussion about public transportation, starting with derailment photos.

These trains would not cross the Sierras, but come through Oregon, past Lake Shasta. They had a chemical train derailment on this route.

But short of a pipeline, and 38 million people that need to travel, what are the alternatives?

17 posted on 04/03/2014 9:08:32 AM PDT by cicero2k
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To: SeekAndFind
I've seen an uptick in the number of carloads of crude that pas through the rail yard that I work at, and I don't see that going away anytime soon. There's more refineries on the west coast than people think, and no pipelines headed that way. And BTW, I don't play on buffet's toy train set, and consider him to be competition to be crushed.
18 posted on 04/03/2014 9:08:34 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: SeekAndFind

We get one of the trains daily here in Anacortes WA. The environuts are too worried about the coal trains to notice..


19 posted on 04/03/2014 9:12:39 AM PDT by datura (We have a 2 party system. Conservatives vs Uniparty)
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To: Pecos

If I were king, I would prohibit all oil imports to California until they emptied the oil reserves off their own coasts.”

And I would strongly support you. I also think other states should quit selling them electricity. They can use their wind farms and solar to meet their needs. I would, however, allow an exemption to all California Freepers.


20 posted on 04/03/2014 9:16:54 AM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: SeekAndFind

How to get the Left to all applaud and support these oil trains to the Phillips (nee: Union Oil) Santa Maria Refinery.......

Phillips need only declare that its Santa Maria Refinery is not going to make automobile lubricants, airplane lubricants, truck lubricants, diesel, or gasoline.

Instead, the refinery will now make sexual lubricants.

You’ll see Nancy Pelosi, Barry Obama, and Sandra Fluke all picketing Phillips to get the trains rolling faster!

Problem solved.

(anyone have any other problems they want fixed?)


21 posted on 04/03/2014 9:26:41 AM PDT by faithhopecharity ((Brilliant, Profound Tag Line Goes Here, just as soon as I can think of one..))
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To: datura

How long before an environmo whacko lays down across the tracks in front of an oil train & demands that it stop?

Remember Dennis Wilson & the Contra ammo train?


22 posted on 04/03/2014 10:10:04 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: Sherman Logan
With oil fracking increasing America’s domestic production by 60% in the last three years

Now, there's a truly astonishing stat!

While the increase has been great, the oil production increase is not quite that high. 45% increase in 3 years, from 5.5 MMBPD to 7.9 MMBPD.

U.S. Field Production of Crude Oil
http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=MCRFPUS2&f=M

23 posted on 04/03/2014 10:10:23 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney

I was quoting from another thread. Didn’t look up the numbers personally. Me culpa.


24 posted on 04/03/2014 12:34:52 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan

The author of this article said the same. It is not correct.

Maybe they meant all liquids including natural gas liquids. I’ve seen reporting of liquid petroleum numbers that way then someone else thinks it is all oil.


25 posted on 04/03/2014 12:37:06 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney

The numbers were higher than I’d seen elsewhere, which is why I was surprised by them, but it’s hardly my area of expertise.

What have the numbers been in, say, the last 10 years?

From the prices, it looks like we’re closing the flooding the market for natgas. At some point, either we start exporting or price will drop below that which makes further drilling attractive.


26 posted on 04/03/2014 12:53:11 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: skeeter
No one rides Amtrack anyway, so whats the problem?

Put your Socialist filters on "High", but here'a a report that looks like the employees are going to take a hammering.
Amtrak CEO tells employees to expect pay cuts

27 posted on 04/03/2014 2:08:59 PM PDT by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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To: Sherman Logan

What have the numbers been in, say, the last 10 years?

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My link in post #23 goes back to 1920 by month.


28 posted on 04/03/2014 6:07:46 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Grams A
No exemptions. Exemptions are, ultimatey, what allowed ObamaCare to pass. Please take a look at an 1850 classic, "The Law", by Frederic Bastiat, available from Amazon.com in English. He wrote this collection of essays as France was sliding down into the slime pit of Socialism in 1848 describes quite simply how the law can be perverted from protection of the group to legalized plunder.

Conservatives can fall into the same trap, which is why I call myself a Constitutionalist. [Getting caught up in the "Republican" snare is a whole different matter that we don't have time for today.] I would point out that Democrats, under the flag of being conservatives, brought us the McCarthyism of the 1950's, just like the left-wing wackos of the Democrat Party are bringing us the political correctness of this decade.

29 posted on 04/04/2014 3:23:51 AM PDT by Pecos (The Chicago Way: Kill the Constitution, one step at a time.)
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