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New Army tattoo policy eliminates potential recruits, future officer promotions
WTKR ^ | 04/02/2014 | by Laurie Simmons

Posted on 04/03/2014 9:48:49 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd

If you want to sign on the dotted line to serve Uncle Sam in the Army, it’s going to get a lot harder to make the cut.

By the end of April, new recruits will be held to the Army’s new grooming standards–which include stricter rules on tattoos.

“Tattoos are cool thing today, 70-80% of people who come into our office have tattoos. I’ve seen 15-year-olds with tattoos,” said Sergeant First Class Robert Black with the Army Recruiting Command in Norfolk, who says these new policies will cut down on the number of enlisted they can take.

If you have a sleeve tattoo–you are eliminated.

If you have a tattoo on the face, neck, head, hands or fingers–forget about it.

If you have ink below the elbow or below the knee, you are limited to 4 tattoos, none bigger than the size of your hand.

“We have over 50 future soldiers in waiting, holding for basic training, and as of right now, 30% would not be able to qualify based on those standards,” said SFC Black.

The Army is allowing those new recruits already under contract, as well as current active duty soldiers, to be grandfathered in under the old rules—but if any of those enlisted soldiers want to try and get their commission to become an officer, they would be barred if their tattoos don’t match the new policy.

“A situation like that would definitely be disheartening to someone who wanted to be an officer and now the tattoo policy is going to stop them from being able to do it, but once again, they have to adapt to the situation to go forward,” said SFC Black.

According to the Sergeant Major of the Army, who came up with the new standards, it is all meant to keep up a more professional peacetime force.


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As Hillary would say; What difference does it make?
1 posted on 04/03/2014 9:48:49 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: Responsibility2nd

Buggery is OK. Tattoos are not. This civilization is demented.


2 posted on 04/03/2014 9:50:47 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (FIGHT! FIGHT! SEVERE CONSERVATIVE AND THE WILD RIGHT!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Better to have dedicated soldiers with tatoos than incompetent civilian leaders without tatoos. Just saying.


3 posted on 04/03/2014 9:54:56 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: Responsibility2nd

the on set of the ‘peacetime army’ .....

actually I would not mind seeing a slowing of tatoo insanity ,
it’s now gone beyond the pale . What’s wrong with the way God created you ? Can some creepy tat artist improve on that? Really? What with the obsession of being a tat ass ?
I do not carry a single tat and never will .


4 posted on 04/03/2014 9:56:34 AM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: Psalm 144

Watch for a run on tattoos to avoid the military if there is ever another draft.


5 posted on 04/03/2014 9:56:50 AM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Conformity and control. It’s an admission that the US armed forces have neither. And three not everyone admires the lack of self control or your taste in body art. Keep it to yourself.


6 posted on 04/03/2014 9:58:29 AM PDT by CARTOUCHE (I'm an Obamacare truant. Waiting on the truant officer to arrive.)
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To: stars & stripes forever

In the mean time, I wish I had invested in tattoo removal technology. At least two local dermatology centers are advertising removing “unsightly” tattoos. Big business for them.


7 posted on 04/03/2014 10:00:04 AM PDT by pfflier
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To: stars & stripes forever

You make a great point. Some will proactively get tatoos to avoid the rush, just in case.


8 posted on 04/03/2014 10:00:53 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: Responsibility2nd

Just a reminder to those who think tattoos are cool, most of us out here think it’s disgusting.


9 posted on 04/03/2014 10:00:55 AM PDT by lormand (Inside every liberal is a dung slinging monkey)
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To: pfflier

Specializing in name removal no doubt. ;)


10 posted on 04/03/2014 10:01:41 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: Responsibility2nd

Tattoos have been a part of the military lifestyle for thousands of years.....................


11 posted on 04/03/2014 10:02:14 AM PDT by Red Badger (LIberal is an oxymoron......................)
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To: Starboard

Former Navy guy says, “I served with WWII vets who were their own art museums. 80% of skin covered with colorful tatoos, but unseen when fully dressed.
When in uniform, their upper left chests were virtually covered with little colorful pieces of ribbon. Some were striped with little clusters, some were PURPLE!!, and one was light blue with a field of stars.
I think the tattoos didn’t interfere with the doing of their duty, some “Above and beyond the call of duty.”


12 posted on 04/03/2014 10:02:16 AM PDT by CaptainAmiigaf (NY TIMES: We print the news as it fits our views.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

***peacetime force***

This is the reason. It is all about spit and polish while in garrison. Peactime military is nothing but rules, regulations, inspections, and training. Nothing new or unique this time.


13 posted on 04/03/2014 10:02:56 AM PDT by wrench
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To: Responsibility2nd

Only smoke-free homo vegan atheists need apply


14 posted on 04/03/2014 10:03:21 AM PDT by Lexington Green (America has become one big re-education camp.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Yet just earlier this week there were articles about relaxing hair codes in the military! I guess it just depends on ‘who’ it offends.


15 posted on 04/03/2014 10:03:39 AM PDT by I cannot think of a name
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To: stars & stripes forever

Should a draft occur, the tattoo regulations will be waived for draft eligibility.


16 posted on 04/03/2014 10:03:41 AM PDT by AzSteven ("War is less costly than servitude, the choice is always between Verdun and Dachau." Jean Dutourd)
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To: lormand

I’m with you.


17 posted on 04/03/2014 10:03:58 AM PDT by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.)
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To: LeoWindhorse

Maori Warrior: You no like my tattoo?.................

18 posted on 04/03/2014 10:04:26 AM PDT by Red Badger (LIberal is an oxymoron......................)
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To: Psalm 144

special exemptions form these “stringent “ rules...will be made for the newly transgendered Im certain!


19 posted on 04/03/2014 10:04:56 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill)
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To: lormand

Ditto. And IMO, there’s a big difference between getting a Unit Tattoo, and a full sleeve dedicated to your favorite metal band.


20 posted on 04/03/2014 10:06:22 AM PDT by wbill
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To: Responsibility2nd

21 posted on 04/03/2014 10:08:16 AM PDT by patriotUSA (Thank you Jesus.)
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To: CaptainAmiigaf
You are confusing those warriors with what the intent of this policy is:

it is all meant to keep up a more professional peacetime force

22 posted on 04/03/2014 10:09:52 AM PDT by Gamecock (If the cross is not foolishness to the lost world then we have misrepresented the cross." S.L.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Actually I think this is a good thing. It is a third world right of passage to have various tattoos. In an educated civilized society tattoos are not all that attractive. Yes I have seen some very nice ink work but over the years tattoos age (as do the people having them). Even with out that the truth is that the folks who insist on getting lots of visible tats are trying to prove how anti establishment they are. There behavior at best is marginal. their work history sketchy and their bill paying ability limited. More often than not they have trouble with the law as well as trouble with drugs and alcohol.

For those of you with tats good for you. I am citing my own experience.

The armed forces don’t need these kinds of folks.


23 posted on 04/03/2014 10:10:12 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: CaptainAmiigaf

Warriors don’t need to be pretty outside. I personally don’t like tatoos but people who are willing to defend and die for this country, at great sacrifice to themselves and their families, can do whatever they damn well want to do to their skin. Your point is well taken; its the courage inside that counts.


24 posted on 04/03/2014 10:10:27 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: stars & stripes forever

“Watch for a run on tattoos to avoid the military if there is ever another draft.”

If there is a draft the rule would be waved. All you would do is make certain that you were stuck being a grunt.


25 posted on 04/03/2014 10:10:34 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Unions are an Affirmative Action program for Slackers! .)
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To: patriotUSA

The face of America-2014.


26 posted on 04/03/2014 10:10:55 AM PDT by greene66
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To: stars & stripes forever
it is all meant to keep up
a more professional peacetime force.

I think the operational word here is Peacetime
If the draft returns, we will be at war in a big way

27 posted on 04/03/2014 10:11:25 AM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: greene66
POST 26 - Post of the day winner!!!
28 posted on 04/03/2014 10:12:45 AM PDT by patriotUSA (Thank you Jesus.)
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To: Red Badger

Have you ever seen someone with a full sleeve? That is most definitely NOT part of the military tradition. Western civilization does not have the kind of tattooing history that the panAsians and Africans do. The northern tribes tended to use body paint rather than dye injection.

And by the by those thousands of years you refer to are mostly governed by monarchs and dictators.....I prefer to live in a more modern society


29 posted on 04/03/2014 10:13:30 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: LeoWindhorse

We’re not stone age savages.


30 posted on 04/03/2014 10:14:28 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: CaptainAmiigaf

A full sleeve will be seen when dressed....no way around it.....Same is true for face tats and neck tats....


31 posted on 04/03/2014 10:14:38 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: Beagle8U

If there is a draft the rule would be waved.

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But certain designs, symbols and letters would still be deemed unacceptible. I can easily think of several.


32 posted on 04/03/2014 10:15:14 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: Nifster
Yup. It's also important to note what's "prohibited". This isn't a tattoo of "Mom" and a heart, or maybe your kid's name on your upper arm.

It's tats above the neck and past the wrists - which, though my knowledge is *very* old, used to be illegal to perform in at least several states. (Tattoos on the genitalia are also illegal, but that's not germaine to this particular discussion. :-) )

IMO, and I'm just talking here, I'd guess that mostly it's to disqualify people with gang tattoos. That's just a shot in the dark, but I don't think it's a stretch.

33 posted on 04/03/2014 10:18:13 AM PDT by wbill
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To: Responsibility2nd
it is all meant to keep up a more professional peacetime force.
 

This reminds me of the NBA requirement for non-active players to wear a suit while on the bench. To present a professional image as NBA players.

While active NBA players on the court look like prison escapees, circus clowns, gangbangers and thugs.

While there is no way to keep out the freaks with tattoos, the military should follow the civillian and corporate model and pay them accordingly:

The more tatts you have - the less you earn.

34 posted on 04/03/2014 10:18:53 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: stars & stripes forever
Watch for a run on tattoos to avoid the military if there is ever another draft.

They would simply lower the standards again. Problem solved, or so they think.

35 posted on 04/03/2014 10:19:41 AM PDT by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Vet 70-71 Msgt US Air Force, retired)
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To: Responsibility2nd; blueyon; KitJ; T Minus Four; xzins; CMS; The Sailor; ab01; txradioguy; ...

Active Duty ping.


36 posted on 04/03/2014 10:20:15 AM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: Responsibility2nd

This surprises me; I thought Obama would make tattoos mandatory.


37 posted on 04/03/2014 10:20:47 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: HangnJudge

I think the operational word here is Peacetime

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I fear that the Democrat concept of “peacetime” may be something along the lines of unilateral disarmament. Just a small standing army to ensure “peace” and stability amongst the domestic population, if you know what I mean.


38 posted on 04/03/2014 10:21:35 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: Nifster

If a man (or woman) is willing to die for my freedom and liberty, then they can wear whatever body art they wish.......................


39 posted on 04/03/2014 10:29:56 AM PDT by Red Badger (LIberal is an oxymoron......................)
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To: Starboard
Just a small standing army

Or, not so small
witness the Huge standing army of China
7,054,000 according to wikipedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_number_of_troops

40 posted on 04/03/2014 10:32:12 AM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: Responsibility2nd

Yeah, I think in the old days, you see a Sargent or Chief with a service designation or an anchor and you think; hey, it goes with package. But let’s face it, it’s hard to take someone with a unicorn, or AC/DC on his arm seriously(hard enough not to laugh.)


41 posted on 04/03/2014 10:35:20 AM PDT by Old North State
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To: Red Badger

They should be able to drink beer too. If you can’t trust them with a can of beer, you are going to give them grenades???


42 posted on 04/03/2014 10:37:32 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (FIGHT! FIGHT! SEVERE CONSERVATIVE AND THE WILD RIGHT!)
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To: Psalm 144

The Obozo team also wants to stop them from smoking............


43 posted on 04/03/2014 10:39:22 AM PDT by Red Badger (LIberal is an oxymoron......................)
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To: Psalm 144

not the entire civiolization. the progressive/liberal part of it is.


44 posted on 04/03/2014 10:40:15 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

But if you’re a fag and an atheist...come right in...


45 posted on 04/03/2014 10:40:59 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: AzSteven

if they aren’t lifted for a future draft, i predict a huge upsurge in tattoos.


46 posted on 04/03/2014 10:41:49 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Psalm 144

Buggery is OK. Tattoos are not.


47 posted on 04/03/2014 10:42:30 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Obamacare: You can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs.)
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To: LeoWindhorse

i say if you feel the need for one, get a temporary one. you’ll be glad it’s gone by the time it’s gone, most people will.


48 posted on 04/03/2014 10:42:54 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Red Badger
 

If a man (or woman) is willing to die for my freedom and liberty, then they can wear whatever body art they wish.......................

 

How nice. Would you also argue.... If a man (or woman) is willing to die for my freedom and liberty, then they can SLEEP WITH SOMEONE OF THE SAME SEX IF THEY WISH.......................
 

Point is, there are standards of conduct and behavior for our soldiers.

49 posted on 04/03/2014 10:44:14 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Psalm 144

this Army [the one that is being formed and organized presently] is not intended to do battle with foreign soldiers in defense of America. It will be used to battle, control, and slaughter Americans who rebel against the New World Order ruler when it becomes necessary. It may be yet 20 years or more in the future. And it may be used in the controlling mode as future generations are becoming more docile, feminized and have a slave mentality. This is the reason behind the “legalization of narcotic drug[s] “ movement as drug addicts, while poor responsible citizens, do make excellent slaves.


50 posted on 04/03/2014 10:46:22 AM PDT by sport
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