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The Coming Obamacare Shock for 170 Million Americans [Obama admin admits 93M could lose insurance]
yahoo.com ^ | April 3, 2014 | Edward Morrissey

Posted on 04/03/2014 1:39:19 PM PDT by grundle

The Obama administration unilaterally delayed a portion of the employer mandate, but it still takes effect for those employing more than 200 workers at the beginning of January 2015. Large employers have to budget as soon as this summer to deal with those costs. Most of them will start scaling down their so-called “Cadillac” health care plans to avoid the taxes those will accrue by 2016, getting ahead of the curve.

Many may choose to give up on offering health insurance at all. The data from HHS after the passage of Obamacare showed that the Obama administration expected as many as 93 million Americans to be thrown out of their existing coverage, with employers opting to either scale down or get out, paying the fine instead.

(Excerpt) Read more at finance.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: democratcare; obama; obamacare; obamalies; thegreatdestroyer

1 posted on 04/03/2014 1:39:19 PM PDT by grundle
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To: grundle

That’s only one-out-of-three or one-out-of-two people. What’s the big deal?


2 posted on 04/03/2014 1:42:04 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: grundle

Oh joy!! Dear Leader has throwed us under the bus. Hoo-ray.


3 posted on 04/03/2014 1:42:26 PM PDT by BipolarBob
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To: grundle
The Obama administration unilaterally delayed a portion of the employer mandate, but it still takes effect for those employing more than 200 workers at the beginning of January 2015.

Soundbite: 93 million to lose healthcare insurance January 2015 - Obamacare.

Thank you, thank you.

4 posted on 04/03/2014 1:42:40 PM PDT by VRW Conspirator ( 2+2 = V)
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To: grundle

“The debate over repealing this law is over.” — The Bamster

Whoever writes this stuff for him has a bright future in standup comedy.


5 posted on 04/03/2014 1:43:58 PM PDT by shove_it (my real nickname is Otter)
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To: grundle

6 posted on 04/03/2014 1:44:42 PM PDT by Veggie Todd (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. TJ)
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To: grundle

Robert Gibbs: “I don’t think the employer mandate will go into effect. It’s a small part of the law. I think it will be one of the first things to go,” he said to a notably surprised audience.


7 posted on 04/03/2014 1:44:56 PM PDT by Qiviut (Obama: A Caesar at home & a Chamberlain abroad, dividing the country & uniting the world against us.)
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To: grundle

*SIGH* This is gonna be me...


8 posted on 04/03/2014 1:49:24 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: grundle

And they’re out there saying that the conservatives wouldn’t dare kick 7 million people out of their insurance plans.


9 posted on 04/03/2014 1:51:14 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

In the words of our great leader,
“Oh stinkburger”


10 posted on 04/03/2014 1:51:29 PM PDT by Ouchthatonehurt ("When you're going through hell, keep going." - Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: grundle

Well, there is certainly no danger of a Cadillac plan at my workplace.

“Would you like a Vega or a Pinto?”


11 posted on 04/03/2014 1:51:47 PM PDT by proxy_user
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To: grundle
Many may choose to give up on offering health insurance at all.

That's a more than probable possibility...................

12 posted on 04/03/2014 2:00:15 PM PDT by Red Badger (LIberal is an oxymoron......................)
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To: proxy_user

Yugo..................


13 posted on 04/03/2014 2:00:53 PM PDT by Red Badger (LIberal is an oxymoron......................)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Don’t worry, after you’re cancelled you’ll be able to buy less coverage at three times what you were paying thanks to Obama and his healthcare sh*t sandwich.


14 posted on 04/03/2014 2:05:44 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: grundle

The Great Destroyer does not feel your pain.


15 posted on 04/03/2014 2:08:00 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: grundle
93 million Americans

You should make a list.

16 posted on 04/03/2014 2:09:21 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"That’s only one-out-of-three or one-out-of-two people. What’s the big deal?"

Yeah, that HAS to be WAY less than 7.1 Million....

17 posted on 04/03/2014 2:09:25 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: grundle

If you like your mortician, you can keep your mortician ..period!


18 posted on 04/03/2014 2:16:24 PM PDT by Mark (Obama Care is now DEMOCRAT CARE)
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To: grundle

BOHICA


19 posted on 04/03/2014 2:16:52 PM PDT by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: skeeter

Gee, THANKS! Feeling all warm and fuzzy now.

*DRINK* LOL!

Beau had his gall bladder removed this past winter. He has one of those ‘Cadillac’ policies thanks to his Union, but out-of-pocket costs leave him still owing $3,500.00!

He went to the hospital yesterday to argue the bill. He demanded they put his gall bladder back in and he’ll call it even, LOL! Oh, we gotta laugh or we’ll shoot ourselves in the head.

I can’t hardly WAIT for my health care to be FREE! Wa-Hoo! Yippee!


20 posted on 04/03/2014 2:18:05 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: Mark
If you like your mortician, you can keep your mortician ..period!

Bears repeating. LOL but it's not really funny.

21 posted on 04/03/2014 2:21:10 PM PDT by Veto!
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To: Paladin2; All

Re: the 7.1 million lie

CAVUTO announced that tonight on Fox Business at 8:00 Eastern he is going to tell us the REAL Obamacare numbers. He said it wasn’t that difficult to find the numbers and knows the White House also has it — also said it will shock us and is NOT 7.1.


22 posted on 04/03/2014 2:23:39 PM PDT by bunster
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To: grundle

Thats it. I’m done struggling. I am done going to work everyday, making what used to be a decent wage, and eating beans for supper.

No more. I shall quit my job and go on welfare. Eat steak for supper. No more slaving to work. No more spending half my adult life doing what I hate so my household can stay above water.

No more. I am going to relax.
Free housing.
Free O Phone.
Free food.
Free healthcare.
Even free walking-around money.

I will now do whatever I want and become an ‘artist’ like Joe said.
Anyone would have to be a fool to work everyday while they would be better off on the gov teet.

...and I’m going to vote democrat so my free stuff keeps coming.


23 posted on 04/03/2014 2:29:10 PM PDT by envisio (Its on like Donkey Kong!)
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To: grundle

IS THIS GROUNDHOG DAY (AGAIN) OR SOMETHING???

PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY BEEN TOLD THIS IS *GOING* TO HAPPEN

THEY JUST POSTPONED IT UNTIL AFTER NEXT ELECTION!


24 posted on 04/03/2014 2:31:18 PM PDT by Mr. K (If you like your constitution, you can keep it...Period. PALIN/CRUZ 2016)
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To: grundle
For way too many years now the DC motto has been; I've got mine! DC legislators who pass disastrous legislation (obozo care) and then leave office before it takes full affect should not be able to retain their government perks by simply retiring thus escaping the resulting hardships of government shake down caused by their legislation. Opposition rallies, tar and feathers or pitch forks just won't cut it anymore.
25 posted on 04/03/2014 2:31:28 PM PDT by drypowder
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To: shove_it

“The debate over repealing this law is over.”

With thinking like that, then the anti-gunners will just go home then, right?


26 posted on 04/03/2014 2:32:01 PM PDT by Duckdog (If it wasn't for NASCAR my TV would have gone out the window years ago!)
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To: bunster

I don’t live in the US or Canada. Is there a website to watch Cavuto in realtime?


27 posted on 04/03/2014 2:34:34 PM PDT by SAJ
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To: grundle
Truly independent people were the first to feel the shock.

5.2 million who run their own businesses lost insurance.

Next in line are the sheeple who depend on their employers to give them insurance. Although we all know that Obama will change it at the last minute.

28 posted on 04/03/2014 2:37:23 PM PDT by what's up (su)
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To: SAJ; All

Watching Cavuto in Real time?

I don’t know

ANYONE — can you help SAJ on watching Cavuto in Real Time?


29 posted on 04/03/2014 2:39:36 PM PDT by bunster
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Wouldn't it be nice if we had a party that would actually deliver on their promise to cancel the whole d*mn mess?

I'm seriously considering joining a healthcare co-opt, if at all possible.

30 posted on 04/03/2014 2:51:01 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: grundle

My former (big) employer is secondary insurer to me, medicare being first, as I am 68 but former employer is primary insurer for my wife and 2 minor children. My premium is no 300% of what it was in 2009 when the obamanation health care act was passed and I know full well, that the worst is yet to come.


31 posted on 04/03/2014 2:57:15 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (God is not the author of confusion. 1 Cor 13: 33)
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To: grundle
Co0rrection:

My former (big) employer is secondary insurer to me, medicare being first, as I am 68 but former employer is primary insurer for my wife and 2 minor children. My premium is now 300% of what it was in 2009 when the obamanation health care act was passed and I know full well, that the worst is yet to come.

32 posted on 04/03/2014 3:04:35 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (God is not the author of confusion. 1 Cor 13: 33)
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To: SAJ

Cavuto has a 6:00 Eastern show too — is on now — he just said new enrolees (not previously insured) is 1.2M.
4.5 million new Medicaid

Kinda complicated — I’ll try and take notes.


33 posted on 04/03/2014 3:05:11 PM PDT by bunster
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To: SAJ

Cavuto said the numbers will be crunched on his website.
What’s his website? I dunno

But site would have something to do with Fox Business News - Cavuto.


34 posted on 04/03/2014 3:11:08 PM PDT by bunster
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To: grundle

The truly wicked and deceitful thing is the delays to keep Democrats from losing their offices before it is too late.

the left is stupid, but they ain’t dumb.


35 posted on 04/03/2014 3:16:20 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Liberty or Big Government - you can't have both.)
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To: bunster

I’m on the West Coast.

He is on Fox Business at 5:00 PM opposite O’Reilly


36 posted on 04/03/2014 3:22:11 PM PDT by topspinr
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To: grundle

There can be NO better evidence of the plan by Zero and 0bamunists to destroy (socialize) America than the plan to tax (penalize) so-called cadillac insurance plans offered by employers of over 200 people.
This reeks of communism, and it sucks...

But, the pubbies don’t seem to have stones to stop this incredible fedgov overreach; perhaps because they are complicit.

It’s time to take back the country. Repealing this travesty would be a good start.


37 posted on 04/03/2014 3:26:07 PM PDT by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2016; I pray we make it that long.)
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To: grundle

Bump


38 posted on 04/03/2014 3:39:52 PM PDT by lowbridge
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To: bunster

I wonder what the “net” change in number of insured will be?
It may even be a minus number...

It may well be impossible to ever find that number reported in the MSM.


39 posted on 04/03/2014 3:43:41 PM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: nascarnation

Do try and watch Neil at 5pm. He will announce the chart (kinda complicated) in the first 5 minutes of the show.

From what I could tell it will be a minus number of “new” enrollees. I don’t count Medicaid as they always had that - just didn’t know it - now are signed up for it - around 5 million.

Neil also had a number of how many that have NOT paid - 50%.


40 posted on 04/03/2014 4:03:46 PM PDT by bunster
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To: bunster

Should say: From what I could tell it will be a minus number of total insured.

But you do the math and let me know.


41 posted on 04/03/2014 4:07:08 PM PDT by bunster
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To: bunster

Thks, bunster — appreciate it!


42 posted on 04/03/2014 4:17:35 PM PDT by SAJ
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To: SAJ

http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/your-world-cavuto/index.html


43 posted on 04/03/2014 6:54:14 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: bunster

http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/your-world-cavuto/index.html


44 posted on 04/03/2014 6:54:44 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: SAJ

Awe, man - it was just a TEASER! Sorry!


45 posted on 04/03/2014 6:59:11 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin; SAJ; nascarnation

Did you catch Cavuto’s show today -Friday? Well, apparently the White House is not happy with his report and is sending in a “surrogate” to debate him on his show tonight. 8:00 Eastern (but maybe like last night will also appear on his 6:00 Eastern show.


46 posted on 04/04/2014 2:03:58 PM PDT by bunster
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