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Selling a Poison by the Barrel: Liquid Nicotine for E-Cigarettes
The New York Times ^ | 03-23-2014 | Matt Richtel

Posted on 04/03/2014 2:26:43 PM PDT by PaulCruz2016

A dangerous new form of a powerful stimulant is hitting markets nationwide, for sale by the vial, the gallon and even the barrel.

The drug is nicotine, in its potent, liquid form — extracted from tobacco and tinctured with a cocktail of flavorings, colorings and assorted chemicals to feed the fast-growing electronic cigarette industry.

These “e-liquids,” the key ingredients in e-cigarettes, are powerful neurotoxins. Tiny amounts, whether ingested or absorbed through the skin, can cause vomiting and seizures and even be lethal. A teaspoon of even highly diluted e-liquid can kill a small child.

But, like e-cigarettes, e-liquids are not regulated by federal authorities. They are mixed on factory floors and in the back rooms of shops, and sold legally in stores and online in small bottles that are kept casually around the house for regular refilling of e-cigarettes.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: cigaretts; ecigarettes; ecigs; liquidnicotine; newyorktimes; nicotine; pufflist; smoking; tobacco
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The New York Times is on a roll lately, with multiple editorials railing against e-cigarettes, and also even one saying to stop eating meat and cheese.
1 posted on 04/03/2014 2:26:43 PM PDT by PaulCruz2016
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To: PaulCruz2016

Why would anyone use that stuff?


2 posted on 04/03/2014 2:28:28 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: GeronL

Because they’re free to do so.


3 posted on 04/03/2014 2:29:47 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: PaulCruz2016

Well, just as long as they don’t have a trigger and go “bang”.


4 posted on 04/03/2014 2:29:53 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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To: PaulCruz2016

OMG. We’re all gonna die!

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If I click the link will the New York Times go on to tell me how many thousands of people have been killed by this liquid nicotine?

I’m sure it must be in the tens of thousands. Maybe millions?


5 posted on 04/03/2014 2:30:58 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: GeronL

Because it’s basically impossible to smoke anywhere any more but some folks still want their cigs. Really nothing about them is any more dangerous than a regular cig, only you don’t have the whole lung cancer thing, and since there’s nothing on fire they don’t generally smell as bad. Which doesn’t stop the prohibitionists, they hate the fact that people are making their own decisions.


6 posted on 04/03/2014 2:30:59 PM PDT by discostu (Call it collect, call it direct, call it TODAY!)
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To: PaulCruz2016

And it’s great in coffee, or a drink. Just a drop or two.


7 posted on 04/03/2014 2:31:13 PM PDT by loungitude (The truth hurts.)
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To: cripplecreek

I am seeing more and more of these ....

the smokers always look a little guilty , like they are shooting up heroin in public , they furtively take a hit and then tuck the device away , while looking around to see who is noticing .

More stupidity


8 posted on 04/03/2014 2:31:54 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: discostu

And the government hates it even worse because they haven’t figured out how to tax the liquid sufficiently.


9 posted on 04/03/2014 2:32:16 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: discostu

From what I’m hearing a lot of people are having considerable success with quitting smoking with E-cigs.


10 posted on 04/03/2014 2:33:04 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: PaulCruz2016

I’m against the government stopping people from smoking. Having said that when I studied skin cancer they guaranteed way the labs used to create skin cancer in rats was to shave them, then paint them with nicotine. It was 100% effective. Okay, if I’d had doubts before that would have stopped me from smoking.


11 posted on 04/03/2014 2:33:44 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: PaulCruz2016

Exhaling water vapor is scary.Let’s ban hydrogen cars.


12 posted on 04/03/2014 2:34:41 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad and lived with his parents .)
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To: cripplecreek

Exactly, e-cigs are a godsend for many.

This is simply an effort to demonize the substance so the government can tax it. Don’t buy into it. This is simply another effort to shape public opinion into asking the government to take away one more of our freedoms.


13 posted on 04/03/2014 2:35:28 PM PDT by The Unknown Republican
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To: cripplecreek

Well sure, because they’re not really quitting smoking. They’re still getting their nicotine, they’re still getting their act of smoking, they even heat it so it feels close to the same in the mouth. Using these to quit smoking is like quitting hard liquor and switching to mixed drinks.


14 posted on 04/03/2014 2:35:43 PM PDT by discostu (Call it collect, call it direct, call it TODAY!)
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To: Gen.Blather

Yet they sell nicotine patches for quitting smoking.


15 posted on 04/03/2014 2:36:10 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: discostu

Actually they are using them to quit smoking. It wouldn’t have said so if I didn’t mean it.


16 posted on 04/03/2014 2:37:08 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: PaulCruz2016

more nanny state stuff.... the pogroms continue


17 posted on 04/03/2014 2:37:24 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Vigilanteman

And the government hates it even worse because they haven’t figured out how to tax the liquid sufficiently.

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Winner!

Taxing it. Good for you? Bad for you? Who cares. As long as the gubmint can get some money out of it - its all good.


18 posted on 04/03/2014 2:38:02 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: GeronL

as opposed to regular cigarettes? You don’t use it by the barrel. Some folks think that it helps them get off of the other kind


19 posted on 04/03/2014 2:38:22 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Nifster

Like using methodone was considered better than other drugs, lol


20 posted on 04/03/2014 2:39:04 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: cripplecreek

I know lots of people who switched to them, 3/4 of the smokers where I work switched. But none of them are getting away from nicotine with them, it’s just changing delivery system.


21 posted on 04/03/2014 2:39:22 PM PDT by discostu (Call it collect, call it direct, call it TODAY!)
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To: GeronL
“Why would anyone use that stuff?”

Because this article is pure nanny-state hyperbole to support regular cigarette sales (and taxes).

Liquid nicotine vapor is far less toxic than smoked tobacco when used as directed.

This is a non-issue for sealed commercial e-cigarettes. It only becomes a problem when people buy the liquid in bulk to make their own refills.

The “poison” issue arises when people ingest or spill the bulk liquid onto their skin. Nicotine is poisonous at such high levels.

There should be a warning to not ingest and wear protection when handling the liquid but banning it is just more nanny-state stupidity.

22 posted on 04/03/2014 2:39:25 PM PDT by varyouga
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To: Nifster

Like the idiots who want to stop smoking in the military for health reasons.


23 posted on 04/03/2014 2:39:38 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: GeronL

Because it’s a lot safer than using cigarettes?


24 posted on 04/03/2014 2:39:45 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

Are we sure about that?


25 posted on 04/03/2014 2:40:11 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: discostu

That’s fine too. Plus they don’t come with all the other crap in cigarettes.


26 posted on 04/03/2014 2:41:04 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: PaulCruz2016

Thanks for letting the ter’rists know, New York Times!


27 posted on 04/03/2014 2:41:59 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Blog: www.BackwoodsEngineer.com)
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To: GeronL

How many people do you know who have overdosed on methadone?


28 posted on 04/03/2014 2:42:16 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: GeronL

Yep. Inhaling vapor is a lot healthier than inhaling smoke, quite sure of that.


29 posted on 04/03/2014 2:43:26 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

I know someone who could. He smokes catnip and potpourri or anything else. He has been awake 5 straight days and wrecked his car this morning at Wal-Mart, hitting a light post


30 posted on 04/03/2014 2:45:27 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: GeronL

I can’t really answer; I am still using nicorette which is just a different form of nicotine injestion. Still staying away from cig’s minus a stumble here and there last month. I truly don’t know if this is true or not, but I read a couple years ago cigarette tobacco is treated with hundreds of chemicals before it makes it to the consumer. All I can say is since January it has been a bitch staying away from them but I fear what my future will be if I continue (and certainly don’t want to be strung out on them should a SHTF scenario occur; the less vice in one’s life the better!). Next week begins regular chewing gum and running (ugh)...


31 posted on 04/03/2014 2:45:59 PM PDT by Ghost of SVR4 (So many are so hopelessly dependent on the government that they will fight to protect it.)
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To: cripplecreek
From what I’m hearing a lot of people are having considerable success with quitting smoking with E-cigs.

Hey CrippleCreek, I managed to quit smoking using the e-cig. I haven't bought a tradition tobacco product for 2 months, and I've now gone to the zero nicotine cartridges.

Now I just have to watch the food intact, because everything tastes good again. :-)

32 posted on 04/03/2014 2:50:47 PM PDT by RikaStrom ("To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize." ~Voltaire)
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To: GeronL

For the same reason people drink coffee, I would think.

Yeah, nicotine is a poison. So is water, at the correct dosage.

Nicotine, assuming you don’t have high blood pressure, is a short-acting, harmless (albeit addicting, as is coffee) stimulant that raises awareness, alertness, and does all the same things coffee does.

More to the point, it’s none of your business.


33 posted on 04/03/2014 2:50:57 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: discostu

Your analogy is horrible, unless you claim it’s the nicotine in cigarettes that causes cancer.


34 posted on 04/03/2014 2:51:04 PM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: cripplecreek; discostu

Discostu’s point is correct. Yes, people are giving up actual paper cigarettes, but with the e-cig you are still getting nicotine, mouth feel and the heat they are used to. So as Discostu said, it’s like giving up hard alcohol and switching to mixed drinks. Or beer.


35 posted on 04/03/2014 2:52:01 PM PDT by leapfrog0202 ("the American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of personal discovery" Sarah Palin)
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To: discostu

Except e-cigs are not on fire, and thus not filling people’s lungs with cancer-causing smoke.


36 posted on 04/03/2014 2:52:28 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: leapfrog0202

Except e-cigs don’t cause cancer.


37 posted on 04/03/2014 2:52:58 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: PaulCruz2016

I vape, and I love it!

One thing that I have NEVER seen mentioned in any article or on any news story is that the e-liquid is readily available with any amount of nicotine or even no nicotine at all.


38 posted on 04/03/2014 2:53:12 PM PDT by Gettin Betta
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To: Jewbacca

None of my business?

you sound like a leftist decided who can have an opinion


39 posted on 04/03/2014 2:54:22 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: PaulCruz2016

I’m sucking on my KangerTech vaporizer right now as I type, LOL! Mmmm, yummy hazelnut mixed with a dash of cinnamon. Much better than those nasty cowboy killers I used to smoke. NY Slimes can kiss my butt! Oh, wait, I don’t have any cigarette butts for them to kiss anymore. Oh well, they can kiss my KangerTech!

Cheers!


40 posted on 04/03/2014 2:54:59 PM PDT by DoctorBulldog (Separated at birth: Boehner's boners and Biden's gaffs)
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To: PaulCruz2016
Somewhere in bowels of the New York Times building, there are a dozen or so researchers, constantly monitoring the internet and social media for signs that someone, somewhere, might still be enjoying absolutely anything.

Or that there might be a shred of freedom left somewhere.

And then, when it is discovered, a breathless courier delivers the news to the man or woman who's job it is to editorialize (in a so-called 'news' story) against the joy or the freedom.

41 posted on 04/03/2014 2:57:31 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: andyk

My analogy is accurate and I’m making no such claim. If you’re hitting the nicotine you’re hitting the nicotine. You can switch to a delivery method that doesn’t cause as many problems, but you’re still addicted to nicotine and it causes plenty of other problems.


42 posted on 04/03/2014 2:57:43 PM PDT by discostu (Call it collect, call it direct, call it TODAY!)
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To: Jewbacca

But you’re still getting plenty of not terribly good for your heart and many other side effects nicotine. I’m not anti-smoking, I’m just eyes open. Switching delivery systems really isn’t quitting.


43 posted on 04/03/2014 2:59:26 PM PDT by discostu (Call it collect, call it direct, call it TODAY!)
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To: GeronL

Well, with friends like those, no wonder you are so fervent on the drug question :)


44 posted on 04/03/2014 2:59:54 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: leapfrog0202

...without all the carcinogens and the awful stink.


45 posted on 04/03/2014 3:00:41 PM PDT by Oberon (John 12:5-6)
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To: discostu

That’s very true, but at least it is an improvement. For some people, quitting completely just isn’t going to happen, so if we can reduce some of the health risks for them, that may be the best they can hope for.


46 posted on 04/03/2014 3:00:55 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

His caddy (I called it an aircraft carrier, it’s big) was his baby too


47 posted on 04/03/2014 3:01:05 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: GeronL

Because they want to kick cigs, plus it’s cheaper.

The e-cig people are pissing off three powerful lobbies/interests - Big Government, Big Tobacco, and Big Pharma. I like them!


48 posted on 04/03/2014 3:02:23 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: PaulCruz2016

The left hates them because they LOOK like cigarettes, just like they hate toy guns and poptarts shaped like guns. Thinking about guns or cigs is a thought crime.


49 posted on 04/03/2014 3:03:23 PM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (Things are only going to get worse.)
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To: leapfrog0202

See post number 32.


50 posted on 04/03/2014 3:05:52 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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