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UPS Fires 250 Employees For Staging A 90-Minute Protest To Defend Co-Worker
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Posted on 04/03/2014 3:01:46 PM PDT by matt04

UPS is firing 250 Queens, N.Y., drivers for walking off the job during a 90-minute protest in February. The company dismissed 20 of the workers after their shifts Monday and issued notices of termination to another 230 employees, notifying them that they will be fired once the company has trained their replacements, UPS spokesman Steve Gaut told Business Insider.

The workers were protesting the dismissal of longtime employee and union activist Jairo Reyes, who was fired over an hours dispute, according to Gaut. The New York Daily News first reported on the firings.

Local politicians are threatening to cancel city contracts that give UPS millions of dollars in breaks on parking fines.

"They took a grievance with one employee and turned it into notices of termination with 250 workers," New York City Councilman Jimmy Van Bramer told The Queens Courier. "That’s outrageous. These are good, hardworking employees who have a contract for UPS. To try and break this contract, break this union, is something that is unacceptable and we can’t tolerate."

UPS fired back that it might need to terminate additional employees if the city alters its contract.

(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: communists; nyc; unions; ups
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Good for UPS. The employees walked off the job. They deserve to get fired.
1 posted on 04/03/2014 3:01:46 PM PDT by matt04
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To: matt04

Ninety minutes? Why did UPS wait so long?


2 posted on 04/03/2014 3:03:53 PM PDT by Hoodat (Democrats - Opposing Equal Protection since 1828)
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To: matt04

“Good for UPS. The employees walked off the job. They deserve to get fired. “

I’d say this is symptomatic if a systemic management problem. Somebody should take notice. It’s really difficult to get 250 people to come to your aid. Some Ting Wong. It will probably surface again, sooner rather than later.


3 posted on 04/03/2014 3:04:04 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: matt04

Good hardworking employees who... Stopped working.... They deserved to be fired


4 posted on 04/03/2014 3:04:09 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: matt04

Wildcat strikes are not authorized by contract. They formed a wildcat strike..the union cant back them, although they might try, and they get the axe. End of Story.


5 posted on 04/03/2014 3:05:01 PM PDT by crz
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To: matt04
You're fired! But you can't leave until you train your replacement. Ha. Wouldn't want to be receiving packages from those guys.
6 posted on 04/03/2014 3:05:13 PM PDT by petercooper ("I was for letting people keep their health insurance, before I wasn't". --- Barack Obama)
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To: matt04
For that reason, strikes are not an approved method of conflict resolution in UPS' contract with the union, he said.

Bust a deal, lose your wheels.

7 posted on 04/03/2014 3:05:22 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Operating out of weakness? Imagine if he was working from a position of strength!)
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To: Gen.Blather
They came to the "aid" of their union activist, pro'ly told there'd be no consequences. Broke their contract. Let ’em go buy a route from FedEx.
8 posted on 04/03/2014 3:07:38 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Operating out of weakness? Imagine if he was working from a position of strength!)
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To: matt04
UPS Fires 250 Employees For Staging A 90-Minute Protest To Defend Co-Worker


9 posted on 04/03/2014 3:09:21 PM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: matt04

It’s interesting to be living in such an “employees’ rights” culture in an economy that makes employees very expendable.


10 posted on 04/03/2014 3:21:20 PM PDT by MNDude
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To: crz

With so many people out of work, no union should be able to hold a company hostage. Hiring should be open to everyone who qualifies. Surely some company would have the guts to just stop dealing with unions.


11 posted on 04/03/2014 3:22:03 PM PDT by rabidralph
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To: Gen.Blather
There are established procedures to address a grievance. One does not get fired for following established procedure in a union shop. Too bad there are no details about the firing.

Once an employee IS fired, there is a proper way to try and get his/her job back. With a very labor friendly NLRB right now, I am very curious as to why the employees resorted to an illegal wildcat strike instead of the union working through proper channels. I do suspect a perhaps somewhat charismatic “leader” and a bunch of hot heads in the shop.

12 posted on 04/03/2014 3:22:14 PM PDT by MRadtke (Light a candle or curse the darkness?)
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To: matt04

Domenick DeDomenico, 40, was in a coma for 10 days after getting hit by a car last year while delivering packages for UPS,” the Daily News’ Ginger Adams Otis reported. “He fought back from serious brain injuries and needed a year of speech and physical therapy.”

You have experienced what few on earth experience

It should inform you that God has taken care of you and you should fear not, what man can do to you.

Move on to your dream.


13 posted on 04/03/2014 3:23:05 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: matt04

There was a time when I was a card carrying “corporatist” meaning anything that corporate (global) wanted I supported.

Those days are gone. I’m conservative now, meaning I support the USA Constitution and the intended version of Bill of Rights (not as parsed by the elites), secure borders, ethics, fairness, and a government by and of “we the people” and not by “we the bundlers, oligarchs, CEOs and unions” who can buy Congress with the chump change using other people’s money.

I don’t support overpaid hired hand bankers and corporate CEOs unless the shareholders who take the risk have absolute final say on governance and compensation, and taxpayers on bailouts, and NOT the beholden bought and paid for members of Congress on both sides that infest our Capitol.

The bottom line is I support the need to advance policies that make America what we once were, and not as a country indebted to oligarchs that benefit only elitists.


14 posted on 04/03/2014 3:23:54 PM PDT by apoliticalone
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To: apoliticalone

So you’re a communist?


15 posted on 04/03/2014 3:26:07 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: matt04
I saw this in Arkansas. Plant workers wanted to organize and strike. CEO/Owner stand on back of truck with bullhorn, "Anyone not in the building at 1PM is fired. All exits are locked except for front entrance, where I will be with HR".

An hour went by, CEO locked the doors at 1PM, fired everyone (200+ people). Thank goodness we live in a right to work state. Owner later closed plant and moved to Texas.

16 posted on 04/03/2014 3:26:50 PM PDT by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!!)
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To: petercooper

“You’re fired! But you can’t leave until you train your replacement.”

That’s exactly how it played out when NYC’s financial district was outsourced to Asia a few years ago (when Occupy Wall Street was born); those who wouldn’t train the Asian coolies replacing them didn’t receive severance.

Those jobs are never coming back...


17 posted on 04/03/2014 3:32:23 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: matt04

I don’t like FedEx, but for the next few weeks I would be using them until the replacements take over...


18 posted on 04/03/2014 3:39:01 PM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Gen.Blather
I’d say this is symptomatic if a systemic management problem.

I'll tell you what a management problem is: They fired 230 people, but they're still working until they train their replacements. Do you see any potential for something going wrong there?

19 posted on 04/03/2014 3:42:08 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: matt04

Unions suck pond water ....worthless blackmailers IMO.


20 posted on 04/03/2014 3:45:32 PM PDT by Squantos ( Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: matt04
I smell a setup.

Look for the NLRB to get involved.

Ubama didn't pack it with Commies for nothing.

21 posted on 04/03/2014 3:45:47 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("A man who damns money obtained it dishonorably; a man who respects it has earned it." --Ayn Rand)
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To: Gen.Blather
It’s really difficult to get 250 people to come to your aid.

That's where "community organizers" come in.

22 posted on 04/03/2014 3:46:51 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("A man who damns money obtained it dishonorably; a man who respects it has earned it." --Ayn Rand)
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To: trisham; apoliticalone

In all fairness, he did say he was a Capitalist before he became a Communist.


23 posted on 04/03/2014 3:47:03 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: Cyber Liberty

“I’ll tell you what a management problem is: They fired 230 people, but they’re still working until they train their replacements. Do you see any potential for something going wrong there? “

Yeah, that struck me as amazingly poorly thought out. (Two adverbs in a row. Sorry.)


24 posted on 04/03/2014 3:51:03 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: matt04

“They took a grievance with one employee and turned it into notices of termination with 250 workers,” New York City Councilman Jimmy Van Bramer told The Queens Courier.”

No; Mr Bramer has things backward. There was no “vote to strike”, there was simply 250 workers who turned a single worker’s unsubstantiated complaint into a personal matter, about them, which it wasn’t, and went off the job for 90 minutes, which is NOT allowed under their own union contract. UPS can let it’s unionized employees keep repeating such actions, with workers paying no penalty for them, or it can strongly remind them that they work by the very contracts they agreed to, not their own personal rules of conduct.


25 posted on 04/03/2014 3:58:04 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: MRadtke
Once an employee IS fired, there is a proper way to try and get his/her job back. With a very labor friendly NLRB right now, I am very curious as to why the employees resorted to an illegal wildcat strike instead of the union working through proper channels. I do suspect a perhaps somewhat charismatic “leader” and a bunch of hot heads in the shop.

Dey ain't got time fo dat!

26 posted on 04/03/2014 3:58:08 PM PDT by Col Freeper (FR: A smorgasbord of Conservative Mindfood - dig in and enjoy it!)
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To: Cyber Liberty

So he’s moving in the wrong direction.


27 posted on 04/03/2014 3:59:11 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: matt04

IPS has a depot in Queens. Maybe if they mention Doug Heffernan as a reference they can get a job there.


28 posted on 04/03/2014 4:08:56 PM PDT by Gettin Betta
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The Company and the Union have a contract. These workers BROKE the contract agreement. ‘Nuff said.


29 posted on 04/03/2014 4:12:33 PM PDT by griswold3 ("Pray for Obama. Psalm 109:8".)
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To: matt04

Looks like UPS taking advantage of situation to clean house
and get rid of bunch of union slugs......


30 posted on 04/03/2014 4:20:20 PM PDT by njslim (T)
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To: trisham

Sadly so, it seems. He lets the hate of capitalism flow through him, until his turn to the dark side is complete.


31 posted on 04/03/2014 4:22:04 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: njslim

While UPS is Teamsters, it’s my experience that they manage the union people very effectively. They pay top wages but get excellent productivity for it.

It’s not like the UAW car plants with a large buffer of underworked employees.


32 posted on 04/03/2014 4:22:24 PM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: Cyber Liberty

It happens, but not so often here.


33 posted on 04/03/2014 4:37:48 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Cyber Liberty

LOL. Call it what you wish. Capitalism worked but only when the investors and especially senior management were put at risk, as it should be, and especially if their management was incompetent. A CEO who fails should get nothing. Today they get another $20 million. For starters why does a CEO even get a labor contract? http://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/u-s-capitalism-rewards-failure/

It is crony capitalism that puts taxpayers at risk because the perps are able buy out our officials. The Party that will inevitably win over independents will convince the public that they are most ethical, most fair, and that hold themselves and others most accountable.

I don’t trust unions, but neither do I trust the globalists. They have already proven they will sell out America for more Commie Yuan. The CEOS of today are rewarded with contracts that immunize and protect them from failure. The tact of even more mergers only reduces competition instead of serving to reward risk and capitalism.

Our once efficient economic model of risk/reward and capitalism has been eroded by the crony capitalists that own our officials and put taxpayers as their backstop. The Tea Party fully understands the GOP E is putting conservatism at risk by supporting crony capitalism.

Only time will tell how this washes out.


34 posted on 04/03/2014 4:42:50 PM PDT by apoliticalone
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To: nascarnation

bfl


35 posted on 04/03/2014 4:44:23 PM PDT by snooter55 (People may doubt what you say, but they will always believe what you do)
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To: apoliticalone

Fair enough, but if you use the term “landed gentry” I’ll be all over you like white on rice.

;^)

(BTW, I can’t stand the term “Crony Capitalism” because it isn’t capitalism, it was coined by those who hate it.)


36 posted on 04/03/2014 4:45:59 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: trisham

I’m going to stop teasing him. He’s not gone yet. Even Darth Vader had his moments of throwing bad guys off cliffs, you know.


37 posted on 04/03/2014 4:47:29 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: Gen.Blather
I’d say this is symptomatic if a systemic management problem. Somebody should take notice. It’s really difficult to get 250 people to come to your aid. Some Ting Wong. It will probably surface again, sooner rather than later.

Exactly what I was thinking. It is a management problem, especially if it is putting large contracts at risk.

BTW, UPS racks of millions of dollars in parking fines. Parking in red zones is the number one ticket their trucks get.

And exactly why should UPS not get tickets for parking in a red zone?

38 posted on 04/03/2014 4:48:38 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: MNDude
It’s interesting to be living in such an “employees’ rights” culture in an economy that makes employees very expendable.

Treat your employees as expendable and your company suffers. Not smart business.

39 posted on 04/03/2014 4:49:24 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: Cyber Liberty

I don’t think he understands your posts, so it’s likely a wasted effort regardless.


40 posted on 04/03/2014 4:52:02 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: matt04
I would wager that most of those workers felt they had no choice but to go along with the wildcat strike. The union could make it very uncomfortable for anyone crossing the picket line.
41 posted on 04/03/2014 4:52:22 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Cyber Liberty

What book or essay collection of Mencken’s did you get your quote from?


42 posted on 04/03/2014 4:54:02 PM PDT by Sawdring
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To: trisham
So you’re a communist?

You've got it exactly backwards. It was Marx who said the capitalist would so exploit the workers that they would rise up and overthrow them. But the capitalists realized that paying workers a good wage is good for business and creates a middle class capable of buying more than groceries and gasoline.

The system is broken and it is not because some working Joe or Jane would like to be able to afford a two week vacation and have some hope of retiring.

Wake up and stop cheer leading the demise of the America. Grossly overpaid is not good. Grossly underpaid is far worse.

43 posted on 04/03/2014 4:54:06 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: nascarnation
While UPS is Teamsters, it’s my experience that they manage the union people very effectively. They pay top wages but get excellent productivity for it.

Every UPS driver I ever saw worked his butt off, barely had time to take care of the paperwork, load my packages and get to his next stop.

44 posted on 04/03/2014 4:56:07 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: trisham

I try not to think of these things as “efforts,” really. Makes it seem too much like work, and if I wanted to work I’d get a job.


45 posted on 04/03/2014 4:56:11 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: gunsequalfreedom

I think you’re confused, but so be it.


46 posted on 04/03/2014 4:56:56 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Cyber Liberty

I love to have a job, but there simply isn’t time. Ah, the good old days. Hours of commuting separated by seemingly limitless periods of boredom. Now that I think of it...


47 posted on 04/03/2014 4:59:30 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Cyber Liberty

Nah, crony capitalism is a valid term, and it was coined by the Tea Party who despise the corrupt crony partnership between big government and big business.

It resulted in trillions of public debt passed onto taxpayers that should have instead resulted in direct CEO, corporate, and shareholder bankruptcies. The Grand Scam is another name for it where the few corporatists benefit and the many are billed courtesy of hacks in the fed and chamber of commerce.


48 posted on 04/03/2014 4:59:46 PM PDT by apoliticalone
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To: NonValueAdded; Gen.Blather
Let ’em go buy a route from FedEx.

Ya wanna bet UPS goes the same way?

Employers don't want employees...Period. They see employees as heavy luggage, a cut in their profits, too costly, etc...

If ya can't off shore to low wage foreign worker land, go independent contractors, franchises etc., or just hire illegal aliens like so many other business, etc.

49 posted on 04/03/2014 5:02:52 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Sawdring

I don’t recall. I think I just pulled a page about him on BrainyQuotes from the web or something. There are a lot of excellent Mencken quotes.


50 posted on 04/03/2014 5:04:35 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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