Skip to comments.Univ. of Leicester students: Noah’s Ark would've floated w/ two each of 35,000 species of animal
Posted on 04/03/2014 3:39:44 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
NOAHS Ark would have floated even with two of every animal on board, physicists have determined based on the weight of the beasts and the buoyancy of the boat.
The students from the Department of Physics and Astronomy at the University of Leicester who came to this conclusion used the dimensions for the boat that were given in the Bible.
In the book of Genesis, Noah is commanded to build an ark which is 300 cubits long, 50 cubits wide and 30 cubits high to house himself, his family and two of every species of animal.
For the study, the students settled on a cubit being 48.2cm long and found the ark could support the weight of 2.5 million sheep. The university said that previous research suggested there were approximately 35,000 species of animals in Noahs time.
The students said it was not clear if all the animals would actually be able to fit on board. But if they did, the boat would still float.
Student Thomas Morris, 22, said: You dont think of the Bible necessarily as a scientifically accurate source of information, so I guess we were quite surprised when we discovered it would work. Were not proving that its true, but the concept would definitely work.
The full paper, The animals float two by two, hurrah!, was published in a peer-reviewed student journal.
Research lead Oliver Youle, 22, explained the science behind the study.
Every object when immersed in a liquid has an upwards force acting against it a buoyancy force; it also has a weight acting downwards a downwards force, and in order for it to float, these two forces need to be equal.(continued)
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It wasn’t 2 each there were. 7 pairs of the clean animals, not just a pair
Correct — I’ve never counted how many were actually ‘clean’ though. Can’t be too many.
I presume they calculated this using original measurements. Remarkable that it turns out to work, but when you think about it, it shouldn’t be a surprise. When a historical document is specific in its measurements, it is probably based in historical fact. There was indeed an ark.
It’s a story, not literal truth.
Where did all this water we currently have on Earth come from?
“Its a story, not literal truth.”
ARE YOU CALLING JESUS CHRIST A LIAR?
37 As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. 38 For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark; 39 and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away. That is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. 40 Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other left. 41 Two women will be grinding with a hand mill; one will be taken and the other left.
Almost every ancient civilization or culture, even those very far removed from the Holy Land, have a flood story. You knew that, right?
“Its a story, not literal truth.”
Anyone can believe that but none can KNOW it.
Similarity of stories has nothing to do with it being true or not. Water “cleaning things away” is evident to most people in life. It makes sense to have a story using water to purify.
From hydrogen, the most abundant element in the universe and oxygen, the third most common element in the universe.
How do you know that with certainty?
http://www.noahthemovie.com/ For your viewing pleasure.
This is a 30-minute watch and a free e-book as well.
“Most importantly, I want to remind you that in the last days scoffers will come, mocking the truth and following their own desires.” 2 Peter 3:3 NIV
“From hydrogen, the most abundant element in the universe and oxygen, the third most common element in the universe.”
What sorcery is this?!
As in the days of Noah...
I wonder how Noah was able to get species like the Polar bear, bison, Kangaroo, Koala, Tasmanian Devil etc on the boat. Or for that matter how did any of those species end up on in North America or especially Australia after the flood?
It floated because GOD caused it to be made by His standards, thus it floated and would never have sunk. Not only did it have to carry the load, but also withstand the storm. It did, thus God made it happen. End of story.
Turns out there is enough underground water deep in the Earth’s crust to cover the world several times over. Recent story on that. Will see if I can find it.
OK here it is: http://m.phys.org/news/2014-01-ocean-beneath-feet.html
Who gives a damn?
Who gives a damn?
Was also so two of each ‘kind’...which doesn’t necessarily mean 2 of each species...
The ark comes to rest for the last time on the 17th day of the seventh month (Nisan); and mankind is delivered and saved.
That also happens to be the day of the resurrection.
I don’t think that is a coincidence.
(the start of the year was shifted around a bit after Israel returned from the exile, so the numbering of the months changed, but the above is correct.)
How interesting that such a story, written thousands of years ago, could contain specific design instructions that, when followed, would create a sea worthy ship that would indeed hold what the ‘story’ says it would hold. Amazing someone could just pull that one out of their butt. ;)
the evidence is there was a flood
if the earth was flooded some had to survive
It’s literal truth, not a story
see my tagline
So 1.2 million species currently known and 35,000 in Noah’s time means a whole lot of evolution has occurred.
Wasn’t it Mark Twain who pointed out there had to be all kinds of bacteria and germs on board.
Noah`s wife was Chinese and ordered DIM SUN to go.
According to scripture the ark was 300 cubits long, 50 cubits wide and 30 cubits high.
A conservative calculation for the cubit is around 17.5 inches while some scholars believe it to be closer to 56 centimeters or 22 inches.
This puts the arks size at around 437 feet long, 72 feet wide by 43 feet high.
(A length to width proportion of 6 to 1 which is still used by naval architects)
There were two floors which gave added support and three decks equaling around 96,000 square feet.
Now for the amount of capacity.
Besides Noah, his wife, his three sons and their wives, living creatures, of every sort of flesh, two of each ‘kind’ were to be brought on board.
(male and female)
Of the ‘clean’ beasts and fowls, seven of each were to be brought aboard.
It has been estimated by some that the hundreds of thousands of species of animals today could be reduced to a comparatively few family ‘kinds’- the horse and cow to mention only two.
With this thinking, some scientists have said that had there been 43 ‘kinds’ of mammals, 74 ‘kinds’ of birds and 10 ‘kinds’ of reptiles in the ark, they could have produced the number of species that we have today.
This is only speculation and seems restrictive since sources such as the Encyclopedia Americana indicates that there are upwards of 1,300,000 species of animals.
However, over 60 percent of these are insects.
Breaking the figures down further, of the 24,000 amphibians, reptiles, birds and mammals, 10,000 are birds, 9,000 are reptiles and amphibians, many of which could have survived outside of the ark.
5,000 are mammals, including whales and porpoises which would have also remained outside the ark.
Some scientists estimate that there are only about 290 species of land animals larger than sheep and about 1,360 smaller than rats.
If you wish to do the mathematics you can see where the ark was large enough to handle the amount of ‘species’ that would carry on to today.
(I have a headache in just researching the scriptures and getting this overly long post ready for posting)
I know, some will say what about the dinosaurs but since that isn’t mentioned in scripture .. my guess is that they didn’t live during the time of Noah.
These are just my thoughts, simple as they may be and not all encompassing for sure.
Other Christians can probably add more than what I have said here because .. there is so much more!
I apologize if I have upset any of my friends on the forum.
(any spelling errors are strictly mine) 8(
Who had to clean all those animals?
One 18” window: How many gallons of Glade air spray did they use?
Whose idea was it allow ticks, mosquitos and Democrats?
And if the water covered everything—even Mt. Everest—that’s a lot of H2O. Where did it all go?
Enquiring minds want to know ....
Wasn’t there some article about huge “clouds” (well, denser than clouds) of water floating through space, possible that one of these “clouds” “washed” over the earth and placed all the water?
And many thousands of fishermen, too, right? They had boats and could navigate the seas.
Also, exactly how old was Noah when he built this ark? I went to a play that claimed he was many hundreds of years old. Is that literal?
“The students said it was not clear if all the animals would actually be able to fit on board. But if they did, the boat would still float.”
Yeah, that’s not very clear but whatever floats your boat, boys.
There are 6.5 million known species found on land and 2.2 million dwelling in the oceans, rivers and lakes.
And most of them have particular diets, for ex. that cute little `bear’ from Down Under can thrive only on fresh eucalyptus leaves. Keep in mind that Noah was also ordered to load chow for his own family and food and fresh water for over 17 million animals, who understood they were not to eat one another. (But once things got back to normal, about 190 days after the rain started, the prey/predator relationship and meat-eating for the heads of the food chain—OK.)
Considering that Jehovah then gave Noah and his family, wife, sons and daughters-in-law, only seven (7) days notice of his additional desire to have seven more of all the “clean animals” added to the cargo, I think Noah deserves congratulations for his ability to exhort his crew to gather these scores of millions of additional specimens, all from the four corners of the Earth and from beneath the seven seas, in time.
(Further complicating the storage problem is that water species prefer either salt or fresh water, so we’ll have to assume that most of the sea creatures made out OK on their own, e.g. the larger whales, even if the rain was not salty.)
On top of these difficult logistics, Noah was getting up there in age. I sure hope that I’m that fit when I hit 500 years. I love this story. It’s absolutely incredible!
What I think about that is ... how many dog varieties are there ... and then ... how many dog kinds are there?
Jesus used those stories to explain things in ways that we would understand. Not literal truth.
I look at a hummingbird and understand without cutting into it's skull that it has a brain capable of facial recognition. There's not one person on earth can explain the exact processes by which that brain works. But the hummingbird still has a brain. And it can still recognize faces. This, FRiend, is what Faith is.
If anyone were to research it honestly, there is conclusive archeological evidence for the great flood.
It's almost like English.
“Jesus used those stories to explain things in ways that we would understand. Not literal truth.”
NOAH was in JESUS’ genology that traces back to ADAM.
TO DENY EXISTED IS TO DENY JESUS EXISTED.
6 When Seth had lived 105 years, he became the father of Enosh. 7 After he became the father of Enosh, Seth lived 807 years and had other sons and daughters. 8 Altogether, Seth lived a total of 912 years, and then he died.
9 When Enosh had lived 90 years, he became the father of Kenan. 10 After he became the father of Kenan, Enosh lived 815 years and had other sons and daughters. 11 Altogether, Enosh lived a total of 905 years, and then he died.
12 When Kenan had lived 70 years, he became the father of Mahalalel. 13 After he became the father of Mahalalel, Kenan lived 840 years and had other sons and daughters. 14 Altogether, Kenan lived a total of 910 years, and then he died.
15 When Mahalalel had lived 65 years, he became the father of Jared. 16 After he became the father of Jared, Mahalalel lived 830 years and had other sons and daughters. 17 Altogether, Mahalalel lived a total of 895 years, and then he died.
18 When Jared had lived 162 years, he became the father of Enoch. 19 After he became the father of Enoch, Jared lived 800 years and had other sons and daughters. 20 Altogether, Jared lived a total of 962 years, and then he died.
21 When Enoch had lived 65 years, he became the father of Methuselah. 22 After he became the father of Methuselah, Enoch walked faithfully with God 300 years and had other sons and daughters. 23 Altogether, Enoch lived a total of 365 years. 24 Enoch walked faithfully with God; then he was no more, because God took him away.
25 When Methuselah had lived 187 years, he became the father of Lamech. 26 After he became the father of Lamech, Methuselah lived 782 years and had other sons and daughters. 27 Altogether, Methuselah lived a total of 969 years, and then he died.
28 When Lamech had lived 182 years, he had a son. 29 He named him NOAH and said, He will comfort us in the labor and painful toil of our hands caused by the ground the Lord has cursed. 30 After NOAH was born, Lamech lived 595 years and had other sons and daughters. 31 Altogether, Lamech lived a total of 777 years, and then he died.
32 After NOAH was 500 years old, he became the father of SHEM, HAM and JAPETH.
TO DENY NOAH EXISTED IS TO DENY JESUS EXISTED.
It was a rhetorical question and everyone failed. Where did all the “current” water in the oceans come from and why is it there?