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The Internet Is Tolerant. Don't Agree? Keep Out
Townhall.com ^ | April 3, 2014 | Debra J. Saunders

Posted on 04/03/2014 4:04:07 PM PDT by Kaslin

Mozilla's new CEO, Brendan Eich, gave $1,000 to Proposition 8, the 2008 ballot measure passed by a majority of California voters to limit marriage to one man and one woman. The U.S. Supreme Court voided the measure, but the hate campaign against its supporters lives on.

There's a Twitter campaign to force Eich to step down. "I'm an employee of @mozilla and I'm asking @brendaneich to step down as CEO," one employee tweeted. Rarebit CEO Hampton Catlin and his husband announced a boycott against Mozilla Firefox applications. It will cost the business money, but, Catlin wrote, "as a gay couple who were unable to get married in California until recently," they "morally cannot support a Foundation that would not only leave someone with hateful views in power, but will give them a promotion and put them in charge of the entire organization."

More than 70,000 have signed a petition asking Eich to resign unless he renounces his former position. The message is clear: If you supported Prop 8, its opponents will go after you. Well, not everyone. That would be too messy and produce too many victims. So Prop 8 opponents will selectively target the occasional high-profile donor until he buckles or busts.

Eich has chosen to walk a tightrope. He told CNET's Stephen Shankland that when gay friends learned of his donation, he saw pain in their eyes, and he's "sorry for causing that pain." A Mozilla blog emphasized the corporation's belief in "equality and inclusion for LGBT people."

But Eich did not apologize for the donation. "I don't think it's good for my integrity or Mozilla's integrity to be pressured into changing a position," he told CNET. Making people pass a litmus test goes against Mozilla's quest for true diversity.

Eich wasn't a prominent pusher of Prop 8. He didn't mix his politics with business, in which case critics would have grounds to cite the nexus between Eich's personal beliefs and his corporate success. He wrote a personal check for $1,000. In tech circles, that's snack money.

Doesn't matter. Catlin wrote that Rarebit is boycotting Firefox because he and his husband "are personally affected" by Eich's actions. That's bunk. The courts upended Prop 8. Same-sex couples won.

Sadly, winning has made some advocates, like the Catlins, less tolerant, not more so. It's not enough that they won; they have to make opponents grovel in penance. No need for stockades in 2014 when you can dangle stock options and flame nonbelievers via Twitter.

It's like political time travel. Advocates demand that public figures renounce their 2008 opposition to same-sex marriage as illegitimate. If Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton could do it, surely soulless CEOs can do it, too.

Let me posit that there were some anti-gay bigots who supported Prop 8. But there also were a lot of Californians who wrestled with the issue but chose to stick with a more traditional conclusion. A yes vote didn't mean they hate their gay friends and family members.

So now the Internet has a sign that warns: If you don't support same-sex marriage, get out of the sandbox. If they beat Eich, the fear will spread, and the next dissenter will submit quickly. All hail tolerance and diversity.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: internet; privacy; samesexmarriage

1 posted on 04/03/2014 4:04:07 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
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2 posted on 04/03/2014 4:05:14 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Kaslin

He needs to sue for discrimination against his religious beliefs.


3 posted on 04/03/2014 4:05:58 PM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (RINOS like Romney, McCain, Christie are sure losers. No more!)
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To: Kaslin

There will be a backlash against those that celebrate and acquiesce to the vile molestation of young boys by decadent homosexual men and it won’t be pretty.


4 posted on 04/03/2014 4:07:09 PM PDT by allendale
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To: allendale

Claiming that the sun rises in the West doesn’t make it so.


5 posted on 04/03/2014 4:11:17 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Kaslin

Fault Tolerant.


6 posted on 04/03/2014 4:12:01 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Kaslin

He just resigned. (Sorry, don’t have time to post link.)


7 posted on 04/03/2014 4:12:06 PM PDT by InMemoriam (Have a seat over there, Mr. Mohammed. Aisha, go play on your swingset, honey.)
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To: Kaslin
He told CNET's Stephen Shankland that when gay friends learned of his donation, he saw pain in their eyes, and he's "sorry for causing that pain."

A measly $1,000 donation six years ago to an issue that got overruled by totalitarian judges anyway did that?

Man, I'd hate to see how much pain $100,000 would have caused.

8 posted on 04/03/2014 4:15:35 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (GO WISCONSIN BADGERS GO!)
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To: Paladin2

The backlash may not come this week, but Id bet my “farm”.. that it will occur before too many years go by.


9 posted on 04/03/2014 4:15:56 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Where did his donation get him in the end?


10 posted on 04/03/2014 4:17:56 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Kaslin

Two husbands?


11 posted on 04/03/2014 4:18:48 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Kaslin

Even Debra Saunders cowers to the disgusting, loathsome degenerates. It won’t be long before she is also forced to apologize to the freaks. They think they have numbers on their side, when the truth is that they only have the homosexual Obama pushing their agenda. When he goes down, they won’t have anyone to protect them.


12 posted on 04/03/2014 4:19:13 PM PDT by Flavious_Maximus
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To: Kaslin

Mozilla caved to the sodomites.

http://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2014/04/03/brendan-eich-steps-down-as-mozilla-ceo/


13 posted on 04/03/2014 4:27:00 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: Kaslin

I’m going to start running out of browsers. What’s the next best once I dump Mozilla.


14 posted on 04/03/2014 4:29:36 PM PDT by Thorliveshere (Minnesota Survivor)
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To: Thorliveshere

Maxthon is a very good browser.


15 posted on 04/03/2014 4:44:07 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (If you don't stand up, you don't stand a chance.)
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To: Thorliveshere

Opera.

http://www.opera.com/


16 posted on 04/03/2014 4:45:07 PM PDT by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: Thorliveshere

Why would you want to dump Firefox?


17 posted on 04/03/2014 4:52:49 PM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: carriage_hill

Opera sucks


18 posted on 04/03/2014 4:57:08 PM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: InMemoriam

What a dumbass


19 posted on 04/03/2014 4:57:47 PM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard; carriage_hill

Can you put either of these on a smartphone like a Samsung Galaxy S4?


20 posted on 04/03/2014 5:00:28 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: Paladin2; Extremely Extreme Extremist

Where did my raising $40,000 for Fred Thompson or hundreds of thousands for the GOP get me? I didn’t do it for personal gain.


21 posted on 04/03/2014 5:00:51 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: Thorliveshere
I’m going to start running out of browsers. What’s the next best once I dump Mozilla.

Just use one of the others temporarily until you figure out which of the other available browsers suits you best. The important thing at the moment is that you dump Firefox immediately. You'll feel great about it. Trust me. As a longtime user of Firefox myself, I realize how good Firefox is. However, sometimes you have to do the right thing even if it inconveniences you. This is one of those times. I just removed Firefox from both of my computers. There's a storm brewing. Be a part of it.

22 posted on 04/03/2014 5:01:19 PM PDT by planter
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
Maxthon is a very good browser.

Maxthon (officially called Maxthon Cloud Browser, originally known as MyIE2) is a freeware web browser for Windows, OS X and Linux that is developed in China by the company Maxthon Ltd.

Thanks but no thanks. We get enough junk from China

23 posted on 04/03/2014 5:05:19 PM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin
Why would you want to dump Firefox?>

So, are you fan of homo-fascism?

24 posted on 04/03/2014 5:06:00 PM PDT by planter
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To: planter

Well Microsoft (IE) was a big supporter of gay marriage initiatives, and Apple (Safari) is run by a gay guy.

If you boycott everything suggested on FR, a person would be living like the Amish.


25 posted on 04/03/2014 5:09:56 PM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: planter

Not at all, but if it turns out that they are supporting homos then I might will dump it. I am just not in a hurry to get rid of a good browser


26 posted on 04/03/2014 5:28:36 PM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: nascarnation

Excellent point. People should listen instead follow like sheep


27 posted on 04/03/2014 5:31:11 PM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Thorliveshere

Opera


28 posted on 04/03/2014 5:31:58 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Eagles6

Opera. It is the best of the best.


29 posted on 04/03/2014 5:32:45 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Eagles6

http://www.opera.com/

Works on desktops, lappers, mobile units. Best browser out there.

http://www.opera.com/mobile


30 posted on 04/03/2014 5:33:45 PM PDT by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: Kaslin

Did you not read the article? Eich resigned. Homozilla employees are in control. Why should I even bother to use Firefox?


31 posted on 04/03/2014 5:37:51 PM PDT by Thorliveshere (Minnesota Survivor)
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To: Thorliveshere; nascarnation
Of course I read the article after I did a search for it. I am not like some here who depend on others to search for them

I suggest you read post #25 by Freeper nascarnation and think about it

32 posted on 04/03/2014 5:55:16 PM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Thorliveshere
Nubie for all I care you can use what you want, but don't tell me what browser I can, or can not use.

Capish?

33 posted on 04/03/2014 6:00:19 PM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I voted for Fred Thomson in the 2008 primary. But he had no interest of winning that is why he quit so early and I swore to my self that I will never vote for anyone whose hear is not in it.


34 posted on 04/03/2014 6:06:09 PM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin; harpu

I liked fred.

I sent him a $100 on Sunday afternoon and he resigned te next morning

He is just a money grubbing son of a bitch


35 posted on 04/03/2014 6:09:29 PM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: nascarnation

This isn’t about companies supporting “gay marriage” or not. It’s about the homo-fascists with their jackboots on decent people like Eich. By dumping Firefox now you will speak out against the modern day browshirts. If not, then you’re saying that you don’t really care.


36 posted on 04/03/2014 6:21:11 PM PDT by planter
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To: Eagles6

Yes, you can download the app. It works well on the Android. Not sure about iOS, I dumped my iPhone before I had a chance to do much with it.


37 posted on 04/03/2014 6:36:55 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (If you don't stand up, you don't stand a chance.)
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To: Red in Blue PA; carriage_hill; WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

Thanks all.


38 posted on 04/03/2014 6:40:44 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: Kaslin

Sheesh. Sorry.


39 posted on 04/03/2014 6:50:27 PM PDT by Thorliveshere (Minnesota Survivor)
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To: planter
The important thing at the moment is that you dump Firefox immediately. You'll feel great about it. Trust me. As a longtime user of Firefox myself, I realize how good Firefox is. However, sometimes you have to do the right thing even if it inconveniences you.

Correct. I spent the past few hours doing research on Chrome. It has most everything I need to replace the functionality of the Firebug extensions I use heavily in Firefox.

Between my systems and client's systems, I count at least 47 Firefox installs that will be removed shortly. One of my workers already has removed 8 installs. We had everyone on Firefox. No longer.

I know google is leftist but after reading the vile comments by Mozilla employees and the arrogance of the Mozilla head, I have had it with Firefox.

Mozilla is infested with hard-core fascists. Hopefully, their market share will start to roll off dramatically.

40 posted on 04/03/2014 6:51:00 PM PDT by sand88 (We can never legislate our way back to Liberty)
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To: sand88
Using Opera now. Found a suitable replacement for NoScript to go with it.

I manage around a thousand desktops and recently started getting ready to deploy Firefox alongside IE.

41 posted on 04/03/2014 7:17:57 PM PDT by KEVLAR (Liberty or Death)
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To: sand88

Isn’t Chrome by Google? I refuse to use anything that is connected to Google


42 posted on 04/03/2014 7:19:18 PM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: sand88

I will use Chrome occasionally but I do try to distance myself from Google as much as possible. You should look into their relationship with Mozilla. I’m currently using IE until I figure out how to use Opera.


43 posted on 04/03/2014 7:25:54 PM PDT by planter
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To: KEVLAR
Using Opera now. Found a suitable replacement for NoScript to go with it.

Does Opera have development extensions along the lines of Firebug? I don't want to be on Chrome long, but I definitely will not be using Firefox anymore.

I have had it with these leftists insulting Conservatives and destroying the careers of people who have a different opinion.

I will do my small part by throwing FF into the proverbial waste bin.

44 posted on 04/03/2014 7:31:09 PM PDT by sand88 (We can never legislate our way back to Liberty)
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To: Kaslin

I signed a petition at http://rightpetitions.net/ to show support. Had to go through many google pages to find a way to support him.


45 posted on 04/03/2014 8:01:00 PM PDT by Patriotic1 (Dic mihi solum facta, domina - Just the facts, ma'am)
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To: sand88

The Opera equivalent is called Dragonfly. It is built into the browser on all platforms. There is also a Firebug Lite available for Opera and Chrome.


46 posted on 04/03/2014 8:06:40 PM PDT by KEVLAR (Liberty or Death)
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To: bert
Like I said earlier...

"bert...you're a SAD little person!

Good luck with your wishful thinking on Walker or Perry.

Either/or will get beat like a drum on the national stage!"

47 posted on 04/04/2014 4:26:41 AM PDT by harpu ( "...it's better to be hated for who you are than loved for someone you're not!")
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To: planter; nascarnation; Kaslin
By dumping Firefox now you will speak out against the modern day browshirts. If not, then you’re saying that you don’t really care.

That's why I won't use the internet.

All kinds of 'gay' porn, 'gay' MSM reporters, 'gay' Hollywood Twitter comments.... the place is just infested with all kinds of 'gay' crap.

48 posted on 04/04/2014 5:56:51 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
I dumped my iPhone before I had a chance to do much with it.

Was it 'gay' ?

49 posted on 04/04/2014 5:59:23 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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