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Moran: Members Canít Afford to Live Decently in D.C. (Audio) (exempt RAT wants a raise)
Roll Call ^ | 4/03/14 | Hannah Hess

Posted on 04/04/2014 2:52:17 AM PDT by Libloather

Despite what constituents outside of Washington might think, members of Congress are underpaid, a House Legislative Branch appropriator suggested Thursday.

Virginia Democrat James P. Moran said he plans to highlight the injustice by introducing an amendment to the Legislative Branch bill during its full committee markup, and at floor consideration of the bill. Moran made the comments while the bill that funds member’s $174,000 salaries was being marked up in the Legislative Branch subcommittee.

“I think the American people should know that the members of Congress are underpaid,” Moran told CQ Roll Call. “I understand that it’s widely felt that they underperform, but the fact is that this is the board of directors for the largest economic entity in the world.”

(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.rollcall.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 113th; 2014midterms; congress; districtofcolumbia; exempt; jamesmoran; jamespmoran; moran; pay; va2014; virginia
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Maybe they can redistribute their wealth amongst themselves.
1 posted on 04/04/2014 2:52:17 AM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather

I’ve got a better idea. Take an old building on a military base in the area and convert it into a barracks facility for members of Congress. Let them live there free of charge while they’re in Washington doing the business of the people who elect them.


2 posted on 04/04/2014 2:57:28 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I've never seen such a conclave of minstrels in my life.")
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To: Libloather

If I had my way, these bastards would be locked up in an old WWII style army barracks like I lived in when I entered back in 1968.

When the sessions are over, round their butts up and transport them to the chow hall in those semi-trailer cattle cars I’ve seen the Marines use, and then to the barracks and put under lock and key for the night. Then Rinse, Repeat as necessary.


3 posted on 04/04/2014 3:09:00 AM PDT by Gaffer (Comprehensive Immigration Reform is just another name for Comprehensive Capitulation)
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To: Alberta's Child

Oops, didn’t see yours, but great minds think alike!


4 posted on 04/04/2014 3:09:42 AM PDT by Gaffer (Comprehensive Immigration Reform is just another name for Comprehensive Capitulation)
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To: Alberta's Child

I’d be in favor of some appropriate townhouses being constructed at Fort Belvoir or similar.

The real problem here is that the burgeoning Federal monster has made living in DC quite expensive. Cut back on the Federal beast, and the problem goes away.


5 posted on 04/04/2014 3:12:27 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Libloather

If you think you are underpaid, leave Congress and go work in the private sector. Nobody is forcing you to stay in Congress.


6 posted on 04/04/2014 3:13:11 AM PDT by TheCipher (Suppose you were an idiot and suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself- Mark Twain)
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To: Gaffer

LOL. You’re right!


7 posted on 04/04/2014 3:13:35 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I've never seen such a conclave of minstrels in my life.")
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To: Libloather
With the state of modern communications there is no need for them to go to Washington at all. They can and should remain in their home districts and work at their real jobs. Making law should not be a full time activity, though a case can be made for a full time repeal of laws. A distributed legislature would also make lobbying much less convenient for the powers that be.

Fight the Free Sh☭t Nation

8 posted on 04/04/2014 3:17:06 AM PDT by Mycroft Holmes (<= Mash name for HTML Xampp PHP C JavaScript primer. Programming for everyone.)
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To: Libloather

Among the Articles, Sections, clauses, and amendments to the constitution that are ignored by Rome-on-the-Potomac, is the XXVII Amendment:

“No law, varying the compensation for the services of the Senators and Representatives, shall take effect, until an election of Representatives shall have intervened.”


9 posted on 04/04/2014 3:17:07 AM PDT by Jacquerie ( Article V.)
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To: Libloather

Why not?

They are EXEMPT and above all true Law.

And ... they ignored the destruction of America
by al Qaeda and Obama-the-Fraud.


10 posted on 04/04/2014 3:18:05 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: Alberta's Child

Dormitory. This has been my idea for years. It’s a temporary assignment. Why let them get too comfortable?


11 posted on 04/04/2014 3:24:22 AM PDT by HotKat (Politicians are like diapers; they need to be changed often and for the same reason. Mark Twain)
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To: Libloather

I could swear they consistently brag about being public servants.....

I never hear them say employees.

Quit and get a real job Moran.


12 posted on 04/04/2014 3:24:31 AM PDT by DainBramage
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To: TheCipher

Amen to that!


13 posted on 04/04/2014 3:33:30 AM PDT by CPONav
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To: Libloather

Shorten the sessions, and let Congresscriters live at home where they belong. If DC is too expensive for our representatives, move the whole show elsewhere. In this age of the internet, what is the point of having that vile gaggle of elites dumping BS together? They could do conference calls.


14 posted on 04/04/2014 3:35:21 AM PDT by pallis
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To: Jacquerie
You keep quoting that pesky Constitution-thingy.


15 posted on 04/04/2014 3:39:20 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: Libloather

Jim Moron wants you to think that the base salary is all they get. It’s only the tip of the iceberg.

Congressional Salaries and Allowances

http://www.senate.gov/CRSReports/crs-publish.cfm?pid=%270E%2C*PL[%3D%23P%20%20%0A


16 posted on 04/04/2014 3:40:38 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: DainBramage

He’s retiring after this term, thank God. Unfortunately for those of us who live in his district, the next fool is likely to be worse.


17 posted on 04/04/2014 3:42:33 AM PDT by 22202NOVA (I was unaware.)
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To: 22202NOVA

His retirement is the reason he was chosen to speak out about a raise.


18 posted on 04/04/2014 3:45:41 AM PDT by DainBramage
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To: Gaffer

Wow, Gaffer! That picture brings back some very unpleasant memories...the chow line, the cattle car trailers (especially to range for night firing).
But, all in all, not a bad experience when taken in its totality.
This is a very good idea for the fedgov elected elites, IMO. The founders never envisioned a full time Congress, and THAT would be a great thing.

Stay safe and FRee, Gaffer.


19 posted on 04/04/2014 3:49:50 AM PDT by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2016; I pray we make it that long.)
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To: nathanbedford

<>You keep quoting that pesky Constitution-thingy.<>

Yeah, a reflection of my misspent youth.


20 posted on 04/04/2014 3:51:48 AM PDT by Jacquerie ( Article V.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

If the job’s important to you, get another job to make ends meet.

No one has a gun to your head to run for office.

I suggest building a dormitory for the bastards; and regarding the people who live in DC and worry about not having representative gov’t — no one has a gun to your head to live in DC. The town should have NO permanent residents, just hotels and B&Bs for tourists (and demostrators), dormitories for the elected, and embassies.

Thanks Libloather.


21 posted on 04/04/2014 3:53:35 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Obama is now making Jimmy Carter look like Attila the Hun. /focus/news/3138768/posts)
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To: Gaffer
in those semi-trailer cattle cars I’ve seen the Marines use,

LOL- I've ridden in those. Yep, we called them 'Cattle Cars'.

"A-hole to bellybutton there distinguished ladies and gentlemen, a-hole to bellybutton". (We got packed in so tight that it would've been hard to fall down).

22 posted on 04/04/2014 4:03:14 AM PDT by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: 22202NOVA
Unfortunately for those of us who live in his district, the next fool is likely to be worse.

Is that possible?

23 posted on 04/04/2014 4:04:00 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: TheCipher
If you think you are underpaid, leave Congress and go work in the private sector. Nobody is forcing you to stay in Congress.

RIGHT. ON.

24 posted on 04/04/2014 4:04:58 AM PDT by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: Libloather

Correct me if I’m wrong, but Moran’s district is suburban D.C. That means he doesn’t need a second home in the district; all he does is commute like any other civil servant. So why is he complaining about his salary?


25 posted on 04/04/2014 4:06:18 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Alberta's Child

If the salary is not enough, then the should relinquish it in exchange for section 8 housing, food stamps, an Obama phone, and all of the other goodies the entitlement crowd takes. Let them live the life of ‘equality’ that they so espouse, including enrollment in Obamacare.


26 posted on 04/04/2014 4:08:52 AM PDT by paint_your_wagon
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To: Riley

They used to use these at Parris Island, but I remember seeing these all the time when I was at Kadena in 69.

I worked comms at the air terminal and we’d get contracted commercial airflights of Army and Marine Corps troops in and they’d be transferred to these to go to jungle training on the island - then to Viet Nam.

Also would see the troops filtering back from Viet Nam brought in on C-130s, etc. and then put in them again to be taken to get cleaned up and sent back home. I’m a Georgia boy, and I never thought I’d see that red Georgia clay outside the state, but I saw plenty of it from those troops coming back from there.

It was caked on many them; dirty sweaty, tired, their boots worn and flattened - yet there was a broad smile on all their faces just glad to get back to the world (or on the way to it).


27 posted on 04/04/2014 4:14:21 AM PDT by Gaffer (Comprehensive Immigration Reform is just another name for Comprehensive Capitulation)
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To: Libloather
I'd be sympathetic but certain facts get into the way. With VERY rare exceptions, most elected officials serving more than a couple of terms, leave office much richer than they did when 1st elected. That kind of conflicts with Rep. Moran's 'poor mouthing', doesn't it?

Of course that recent reversal of the ban on 'insider trading' probably did not hurt this trend. Add to it the perks, connections and retirements along with the prestige and isn't it interesting how so many spend so much to be so poor?

28 posted on 04/04/2014 4:16:17 AM PDT by SES1066 (Quality, Speed or Economical - Any 2 of 3 except in government - 1 at best but never #3!)
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To: Libloather
"this is the board of directors for the largest economic entity in the world". I guess this is the most revealing part of that inane statement

They really do believe they're the bosses of the rest of us, not our servants. Sometimes they just can't help but show their true feelings.

29 posted on 04/04/2014 4:17:26 AM PDT by Riflema
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To: Alberta's Child

I agree, great idea


30 posted on 04/04/2014 4:25:14 AM PDT by dila813
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To: Libloather

If you are dissatisfied with your position, I suggest you seek employment elsewhere.


31 posted on 04/04/2014 4:28:10 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (This is known as "bad luck". - Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Libloather
the fact is that this is the board of directors for the largest economic entity in the world

The fact is that this is a band of thieves who, without authority, are attempting to seize control over the largest economic entity in the world.


32 posted on 04/04/2014 4:28:56 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise. H)
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To: Libloather

How about a Murphy Bed in the office?


33 posted on 04/04/2014 4:32:00 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: Gaffer
They used to use these at Parris Island, but I remember seeing these all the time when I was at Kadena in 69.

Pendelton, too. Rifle Range, when time was of the essence and ITR. Oh, what fun.
34 posted on 04/04/2014 4:52:49 AM PDT by 98ZJ USMC
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To: Alberta's Child

How about a prison......


35 posted on 04/04/2014 4:56:29 AM PDT by Yorlik803 ( Church/Caboose in 2016)
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To: Alberta's Child

Exactly! And they better hope we, the people, don’t progress their living quarters to prison or worse.


36 posted on 04/04/2014 5:02:26 AM PDT by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: Libloather

More the reason to cause the Congress Critters to tele-commute from their home office. While not an original idea, it seems its time has come. Ith modern internet programs that allow online meetings and full interactions, these representatives of the people could perform from locations where the people, their bosses, could watch thems and supervise them and do it for 1/10th the cost.


37 posted on 04/04/2014 5:05:51 AM PDT by Lion Den Dan
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To: Gaffer

Why do you want to feed them? Let them farm and feed themselves. It would be a real education for them.


38 posted on 04/04/2014 5:08:12 AM PDT by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: Mycroft Holmes

You beat me to it. A fantastic idea. Also, John Q. Citizen could log on and monitor much of the proceedings. Might not be much to observe at first but it sure would inform John Q. as to what the members of House and Senate are doing or not doing.


39 posted on 04/04/2014 5:10:13 AM PDT by Lion Den Dan
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To: Libloather

> “but the fact is that this is the board of directors for the largest economic entity in the world”

And he can’t figure out how to live on $174,000.


40 posted on 04/04/2014 5:31:26 AM PDT by BinaryBoy (Starve the RINOs: Not one dollar, not one vote.)
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To: Libloather

tsk,tsk. Moran wants to further wealth inequality. After all, how many poor people in DC even get $174,000?


41 posted on 04/04/2014 5:34:26 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: DoodleDawg

Oh, yes. If you live in VA-8, I’m afraid we ain’t seen nothing yet. Look at the declared candidates.

Sadly, there’s almost no chance this will go anywhere but further left


42 posted on 04/04/2014 5:47:16 AM PDT by 22202NOVA (I was unaware.)
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To: Mycroft Holmes

I like your idea. Especially the repeal part. Lets start by repealing them this November. Repeal the whole bunch.


43 posted on 04/04/2014 5:50:49 AM PDT by certrtwngnut (')
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To: Libloather
There's a perfect spot for all the Congresscritters to stay: The Greenbrier Resort.

In the late 1950’s and early 1960s, the Greenbrier was remodeled to add a wing that would house all of the U.S. Congress and other officials of the government in an underground bunker. This command and control bunker was to run the United States from in case of an attack by the Soviet Union.

The bunker is still there and waiting for our Congresscritter bigwigs. Although the bunker was decommissioned in 1992 after its presence was leaked, it still remains ready for occupancy. Therefore, make all the Congress use what the taxpayers bought for them; make them stay there while in-session. Make them conduct all their business away from DC and at the Greenbrier.

The Greenbrier Resort
300 West Main Street
White Sulphur Springs, WV 24986

44 posted on 04/04/2014 5:53:28 AM PDT by MasterGunner01
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To: Libloather

It’s DC, let them live in public housing. Most of these folks believe in big government, let them enjoy the product of big government.


45 posted on 04/04/2014 6:09:38 AM PDT by rigelkentaurus
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To: Libloather

At $174,000 plus what they can expense out they aren’t underpaid.

The median household income in Fairfax County, VA is $103,000.

Let them live in the burbs and commute like the proles they steal from.

Many working taxpayers who commute back and forth all the way from West Virginia to DC for work every day can only dream of making $174,000 a year.


46 posted on 04/04/2014 6:17:30 AM PDT by Iron Munro (The future ain't what it use to be -- Yogi Berra)
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To: Libloather

Move the Senate and House to places like Detroit and Dearbornistan.

I guarantee they would accomplish a lot more in a much shorter time and they wouldn’t be lingering around to attend elitist parties.


47 posted on 04/04/2014 6:23:19 AM PDT by Iron Munro (The future ain't what it use to be -- Yogi Berra)
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To: Libloather
Moran: Members Can’t Afford to Live Decently in D.C.

Two retorts spring immediately to mind. One is that they aren't decent any where so why should DC be any different?

The second is what Nero said when he completed Domus Aurea "At last I am beginning to be housed like a human being."

The Congresscritters might want to take note of his end as a warning.

48 posted on 04/04/2014 6:24:30 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: BinaryBoy

Well that’s part of the provlem-nobody asked them to take over a large percentage of what should be private sector responsibilities and run them.


49 posted on 04/04/2014 6:25:05 AM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: mrsmel

Most congresspersons should be getting free housing...in a prison. If they are paid so little, how do they all become multimillionaires?????


50 posted on 04/04/2014 6:31:33 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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