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NOONAN: A CATASTROPHE LIKE NO OTHER (WH spin shows a calculated Obama)
THE WALL STREET JOURNAL ^ | 4/2/14 | PEGGY NOONAN

Posted on 04/04/2014 4:46:46 AM PDT by Liz

SNIP-- Support it or not, you cannot look at ObamaCare and call it anything but a huge, historic mess....utterly unique in the annals of American lawmaking and govt administration.....then-Democratic speaker Pelosi blithely, mindlessly said---but in a way forthcomingly—that we have to pass it to find out what's in it. .... an historic admission that she was fighting hard for something she herself didn't understand, but she had every confidence regulators and bureaucratic interpreters would tell her in time what she'd done.

....for the next three years Democrats would carry on like blithering idiots making believe they'd read the bill and understood its implications. They were later taken aback by complaints from their constituents.

The White House seems to have understood, and lied to Americans in a way so specific, it showed they knew exactly what to spin and how. "If you like your health-care plan, you can keep your health-care plan, period." Your existing policy had to pass muster.....they'd fight to the death to ensure that 60-year-old women have pediatric dental coverage.

....the president's approach on Tuesday, when he announced the purported 7.1 million enrollees. "The debate over repealing this law is over. The Affordable Care Act is here to stay. . . . was political showbiz of a particular sort, asking whether the picture given of a thing will counter the experience of the thing.

(Excerpt) Read more at online.wsj.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 0carenightmare; abortion; deathpanels; demagogicparty; fail; memebuilding; obamacare; obamacarescam; obamascam; partisanmediashill; partisanmediashills; peggynoonan; zerocare

1 posted on 04/04/2014 4:46:46 AM PDT by Liz
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To: Liz
NOONAN: A CATASTROPHE LIKE NO OTHER

NOONAN: A CATASTROPHE THAT VOTED FOR THE CATASTROPHE

2 posted on 04/04/2014 4:49:53 AM PDT by Common Sense 101 (Hey libs... If your theories fly in the face of reality, it's not reality that's wrong.)
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To: Liz
Quote from OhVomit's victory lap: "In the end, history is not kind to those who would deny Americans their basic economic security. Nobody remembers well those who stand in the way of America's progress or our people."

Well, OhVomit just wrote his epitaph.

3 posted on 04/04/2014 4:57:36 AM PDT by NRA1995 (I'd rather be a living "gun culture" member than a dead anti-gun candy-ass.)
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To: Liz

-——.they’d fight to the death to ensure that 60-year-old women have pediatric dental coverage——

Herein is a very interesting group of Americans. They are 60 ish women married to 66ish men that retire and go on medicare. The women lose their health care coverage and are forced on to Obamacare. Aside from the hassle of time spent by their retired husbands diligently wrestling with Obamacare and finally getting signed up, when they learn what they got, there is panic.

These are my brother and sister in law. When they look at what they pay and what they get, fear grows. They pay out and pay out some more with the deductible, but get nothing, certainly not the outcome they want.

It all changes. What was is not.

I can guess that a large portion of the 7.1 million are such women that are now plagued with anxiety and fear, and fruit basket turnover medical care lives.


4 posted on 04/04/2014 4:58:05 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: All
Turns out Obamacare is a tax-financed vehicle for consolidating Dummycrat power w/ a multi-billion dollar slush fund. Unsuspecting enrollees are being plugged into Democrat voter rolls.

The Untraceable $8 Billion ObamaCare PR Budget---truly govt fraud at its finest.

Egged on by Pelosi, no one in Congress told Americans about Section 4002---which mandates an $8B untraceable fund to "promote" Obamacare (apparently b/c Boobamba had so little confidence in his signature legislation).

In 2010 Taxpayers are extorted $500 million, in 2011, $750 million, 2012, $1 billion, 2013, $1.25 billion, 2014, $1.5 billion and in 2015 and on, $2 billion........

Lock-stepping Democrats voted to nationalize 1/6 of the US economy ----

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Q. Why all those O/Care delays and the recent enrolloment extension?

A. Because Sibelius is aiding and abetting Scumocrats to register enrollees as Democrats.....and helping Obama to wire-transfer tax dollars billions.

And remember, taxpayers....once in the hands of the Dummycrat criminal hordes, the tax billions are untraceable.

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ACA SEC. 4002. PREVENTION AND PUBLIC HEALTH FUND.

(a) PURPOSE. It is the purpose of this section to establish a Prevention and Public Health Fund (referred to in this section as the ‘‘Fund’’), to be administered through the Department of Health and Human Services, Office of the Secretary, to provide for expanded and sustained national investment in prevention and public health programs to improve health and help restrain the rate of growth in private and public sector health care costs.

(b) FUNDING.—There are hereby authorized to be appropriated, and appropriated, to the Fund, out of any monies in the Treasury not otherwise appropriated—

(1) for fiscal year 2010, $500,000,000;
(2) for fiscal year 2011, $750,000,000;
(3) for fiscal year 2012, $1,000,000,000;
(4) for fiscal year 2013, $1,250,000,000;
(5) for fiscal year 2014, $1,500,000,000; and
(6) for fiscal year 2015, and each fiscal year thereafter, $2,000,000,000.

(c) USE OF FUND.—The Secretary shall transfer amounts in the Fund to accounts within the Department of Health and Human Services to increase funding, over the fiscal year 2008 level, for programs authorized by the Public Health Service Act, for prevention, wellness, and public health activities including prevention research and health screenings, such as the Community Transformation grant program, the Education and Outreach Campaign for Preventive Benefits, and immunization programs.

(d) TRANSFER AUTHORITY.—The Committee on Appropriations of the Senate and the Committee on Appropriations of the House of may provide for the transfer of funds in the Fund to eligible activities under this section, subject to subsection (c).

5 posted on 04/04/2014 4:59:29 AM PDT by Liz
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To: Common Sense 101

Her typically erudite style belies confusion about where she stands. Like her friend with whom she discussed Iran, she would not do now what she was willing to do then. In her final sentence she is correct. This disaster must be fought cunningly and deliberately. Cruz, however, may have the only legitimate solution. Chop it with an axe until it is dead.


6 posted on 04/04/2014 5:05:41 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (This is a wake up call. Join the Sultan Knish ping list.)
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To: Liz

Obama will not release the break-down of the 7.1 million enrollee number. This is all I need to know about how well the ACA law is working. If those numbers made him look good, he would be publishing them in 24 point font. Obama doesn’t care about reality. He only cares about perception and the push is on by him and the media to change the perception...the reality be damned. It’s almost as if the reality won’t be made obvious as long as it’s not talked about.

The real problem for us is Obama’s successful strategy of playing to the less motivated, less educated, 8th grade drop out types, who are the most bitter and the and most depressed amongst us. In other words, the D students, the dudes and gals sitting on the stoop during the work day, and the self-described victim class are running this country right now...because that’s where most of the votes are. It’s just that simple.

Who dod the kids love most? Mom, who makes them do homework and go to school or the dad who feeds them candy for diner and tells them there is no need for school? Well...our government is the bad parent....and the kids love it!!

I’m depressed.


7 posted on 04/04/2014 5:15:48 AM PDT by Mustangman (The GOP)
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To: NRA1995

“Progress” is one of those words of variable meaning, that changes depending upon whom the speaker of the term might be.

In its most basic meaning, progress means merely moving from one position or location to another. But with a shift in the accent upon the syllables, the whole range of meaning shifts, into which there were old, “inefficient” ways of doing things, upon which the “inefficient” ways are discarded, with a new “faster” way instituted in its place. Because the “faster” way was thought up by really SMART people (another term that is highly flexible), why, it cannot be then changed back, doncha see.

Except by the time they are done with all the tinkering, the “new, faster” way turns out to look a lot like the old, inefficient way. But along the way, a lot of tears, pain, money and time were frittered away or fell into waste.


8 posted on 04/04/2014 5:19:03 AM PDT by alloysteel (Obamacare - Death and Taxes now available online. One-stop shopping at its best!)
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To: Liz
Wow, a Manhattan elite like Peggy has spoken against her politcally correct dreamboat.

Where was this airhead back in 2008 when we warned this Marxist prop was deranged America hating thug?...

She might have just been dropped from the Palm Beach Easter holiday party circuit.
No Comcast-NBC party invites for her anymore!
She will pay !
Maybe MSDNC which is where she preaches will drop her !

9 posted on 04/04/2014 5:21:48 AM PDT by ncalburt ( Amnesty-media out in full force)
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To: Liz

Wonder if she would vote for him twice again?

Pray America wakes up


10 posted on 04/04/2014 5:21:53 AM PDT by bray (The Republic of Texas 2022 order here: http://braylog.com/id47.html)
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To: Liz

11 posted on 04/04/2014 5:25:49 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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To: Liz

12 posted on 04/04/2014 5:27:11 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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To: bert
Retirees losing health care are forced onto Obamacare.....finally getting signed up, they look at what they pay and what they get....fear grows.

Excellent point. The oldsters better watch out for this.

Obama is herding seniors onto federal programs---like cattle slowly boarding the ramp single-file, knowing the bolt is coming, and unable to do a thing about it.

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For starters: the Obamacare con artists eliminated the ASSET TEST, (which prevents those with assets to even be considered for Medicaid coverage). Every person herded onto Medicaid signed away their entire estate to the govt. Heirs get nothing---everything goes to the state to re-coup the expenses incurred under Medicaid. The Obama criminals duped people into a reverse mortgage scheme......

Here's how it works.

The Obama conmen forced seniors WITH ASSETS onto Medicaid---a program specifically structured for the poor. Herding sickly elderly with assets into Medicaid has ominous consequences intriguing to sap-happy leftists. B/c assets, perhaps a home owned free and clear, securities, annuities, investment property, can be seized to pay for govt treatment.

Thus intergenerational transfers of wealth (a longtime liberal/progressive bugaboo)----are decimated. Can you say redistribution of wealth?

================================================= Boobamba's got plans.....secret, nefarious plans for grampa/ma duped into signing up for Medicare/Aid.

The WH BOOB can't get 'em to sign up on the flopola healthcare.guv website---so he's throwing some 400,000 onto MEDICAID------and all the costs of medical care will be charged back.

How can he do that? By slapping federal and state LIENS against signers' homes, and other assets.......the Obamacare con artists eliminated the ASSET TEST, (which would have prevented those with assets to even be considered for Medicaid coverage).

So those who are now told: "Golly gee, my government loves me, Obama says I qualify for subsidized Medicaid care, I'll be well- taken care of"---have been suckered into a REVERSE ASSET LIQUIDATION FEDERAL MONEY GRAB.

And, once in the hands of the Obama criminal hordes, all that money is untraceable.

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Remember when Oprah said America can't rest, until all those elderly racists die.

IPAB (Independent Payment Advisory Board---AKA Death Panels) is officially the “fifth branch” of govt, composed of hand-picked unelected members appointed by Obama:

1) It will make all important health care decisions by authorizing payment or not.

2) It is not funded by Congress and cannot have its budget reviewed or changed.

3) Its membership cannot be changed by future Presidents,

4) It cannot be repealed by Congress, except for a six month window in 2017.

5) Its decisions are not subject to judicial review.

6) It is not authorized by the Constitution, and is therefore immune to Constitutional processes.

13 posted on 04/04/2014 5:27:34 AM PDT by Liz
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To: Liz

How much standing has Peggy Noonan lost over her mad crush on 0bama six years ago?


14 posted on 04/04/2014 5:29:55 AM PDT by Excellence (All your database are belong to us.)
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To: ncalburt

Better late than never.

Remember that Boobamba is an exceptionally good con artist——he had a lot of people fooled.

Heck, consummate con artist Madoff was able to con people for years-—taking their money in the process.


15 posted on 04/04/2014 5:32:49 AM PDT by Liz
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To: Common Sense 101

16 posted on 04/04/2014 5:33:27 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (For every Ted Cruz we send to DC, I can endure 2-3 "unviable" candidates that beat incumbents.)
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To: Mustangman
Obama will not release the break-down of the 7.1 million enrollee number.

According to Jonah Goldberg, most of those enrollees are people who lost their other insurance due to Obamacare.

17 posted on 04/04/2014 5:36:11 AM PDT by Drawsing (Fools show their annoyance at once, the prudent man overlooks an insult. Proverbs 12:16)
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To: NRA1995

Those progressives who know little of history and think they are exempt from it love to quote it in their speeches. In reality, those who think they are exempt from history are the ones always repeating it.


18 posted on 04/04/2014 5:43:49 AM PDT by NotTallTex
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To: Liz

Ha! Peg is late for the movie and now feels compelled to tell us where we are in the plot line. Thanks so much, Noonie-poo.


19 posted on 04/04/2014 5:52:50 AM PDT by LittleBillyInfidel (This tagline has been formatted to fit the screen. Some content has been edited.)
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To: Liz

The episode where Tony Soprano’s therapist told him to simply “act as if”.

That is what’s going on here.


20 posted on 04/04/2014 5:59:06 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Drawsing; Mustangman
Obama will not release the break-down of the 7.1 million enrollee number. According to Jonah Goldberg, most of those enrollees are people who lost their other insurance due to Obamacare.

An alert Obama official looks for enrollees who've paid for insurance, who are actually insured, for millenials duped into
paying for other people's h/care and for the "underserved"....
who had no insurance before ACA took effect (sob).

21 posted on 04/04/2014 6:01:00 AM PDT by Liz
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To: Liz
It's like wrestling a manic, many-armed squid in ink-darkened water.

Great description by Peggy.

22 posted on 04/04/2014 6:07:05 AM PDT by randita
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To: Common Sense 101

That’s right. Obama is a catastrophe like no other, unless, of course, Sarah Palin became vice president. That would have been unthinkable for Peggy and much, much, worse than this catastrophe like no other.


23 posted on 04/04/2014 6:08:19 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: randita

This is clearly Noonan’s best article of her career. I think that now she has really come awake. The writing is also great (like the squid image mentioned above).

If you haven’t done so, please read the whole article. I am planning to smuggle copies into my doctor’s office, to leave in the waiting room.


24 posted on 04/04/2014 6:12:05 AM PDT by docbnj
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To: Liz
Noonan is an archaic irrelevant relic. Hopelessly banal and retrograde. A dinosaur spouting and stumbling into the tar pit of long forgotten self serving political disseminators.

Eons from now her bones will be found and once more discarded, because then as now...she will be of no importance.

25 posted on 04/04/2014 6:15:11 AM PDT by Awgie (truth is always stranger than fiction)
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To: Liz

FUPN, where were you when it mattered?


26 posted on 04/04/2014 6:16:20 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Liz
cat lady photo: Simpsons - Crazy Cat Lady crazy_cat_lady_fromtheSimpsons-1.gif

Uggh, Noonan...

27 posted on 04/04/2014 6:18:36 AM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: Liz

Are Noonan and her Obama having a bedroom argument, here?


28 posted on 04/04/2014 6:20:57 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: Diogenesis
No matter what they say now, Clown Prince nobama supporters and DIMs/LIBs OWN this criminal nobamacare law. They hate Freedom and Free America. They are all criminals and should experience Justice.
29 posted on 04/04/2014 6:24:35 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: randita
Great description by Peggy: O/Care's like wrestling a manic, many-armed squid in ink-darkened water.

The following stunning Noonan insight made me forget all the things I didn't like about her.

"Pelosi's urgings inspired Democrats, who for the next three years would carry on like blithering idiots making believe they'd read the bill and understood its implications. They were later taken aback by complaints from their constituents. "

The White House, on the other hand, seems to have understood what the bill would do, and lied in a way so specific it showed they knew exactly what to spin and how.

"Keep your plan" of course was the president, misrepresenting the facts of his signature legislative effort. Your existing policy had to pass muster with the administration, which would fight to the death to ensure that 60-year-old women have pediatric dental coverage.

30 posted on 04/04/2014 6:26:42 AM PDT by Liz
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To: alloysteel

That post brings back memories of when I worked on copiers and printing equipment decades ago. My employer came up with new systems to “automate” the process for short run offset printing on their equipment. It was supposed to greatly reduce the skills needed to operate the equipment. In the end it only meant that the operators needed even more skills to try to keep the new systems from going awry. They even changed the name of one new feature, repacing the word “automatic” with the word “electronic” because they finally had to admit it was not really automatic and in fact required a SKILLED operator to perform daiy cleaning and adjustment to keep it working. Even with the best operator downtime was much higher than with the old system and productivity was really no higher, probably lower in fact. Interestingly this was a company which had for a long, long time been an industry leader but in the end they seemed to be flailing about and going for progress for the sake of progress whether there was anything real about the so called progress or not. They spent a huge amount on one new product introduction which belonged in an old Rube Goldberg newspaper cartoon. Those who had to install it and try to maintain it took one look and groaned. There was literally no way to make the monster work through a single eight hour shift without trouble and no one could figure out why the management ever imagined it could be made to work. That machine was the mechanical equivalent of Obamacare.


31 posted on 04/04/2014 6:27:04 AM PDT by RipSawyer
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To: bert
If anyone thinks the left cares about the uninsured they are kidding themselves. This was a tool to grab power and money and freedoms from the citizens. Look at social security. It was suppose to be a pension of sorts, but politicians used it as their personal bank to pay for getting more votes....Medicaid programs... That money is all gone and now they have to use the incoming money to pay for today's retirees. The problem is, they aborted 55 million babies, future taxpayers, so, in time, those paying in wont get anything out of it. Maybe when the obama voters grow up, they will realize they've been aiding in there own demise.

Even though it's hard to see sometimes, God is in control and knows when and how far he will allow this unholy spiritual attack on this country, that was founded in His name, to continue.

The left, those in control, would love to see this country become a third world country that they can control. They can't because of the many patriots who refuse to give up their bibles, guns and freedoms. The tools they use to control us, we pay for through our taxes....our lifetime of hard work. IRS, EPA, FCC, .....

Many of the 456 federal agencies reported to exist by the federal government consist of hierarchies of agencies within themselves. Bureaucracies within bureaucracies.

For example, the National Institutes of Health.

The National Institutes of Health (NIH)

Here’s just one example of a federal agency from the below list of major federal agencies. This one consists of 47 separate bureaucracies!

If there are this many bureaucracies within just one of the 456 major federal bureaucracies, how many thousands of federal bureaucracies exist?

How can voters possibly hold politicians to account for the performance of these bureaucracies when most people don’t know they exist – much less what they do, how much they spend, and what good and bad results they produce?

The politicians don’t know what these agencies do either. Most of the time, they don’t even read the bills they vote into law.

http://www.centerforsmallgovernment.com/small-government-news/agencies-of-the-federal-government/

32 posted on 04/04/2014 6:35:14 AM PDT by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness.)
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To: Liz

Noonan has a very long way to go before she has any credibility with me.


33 posted on 04/04/2014 6:36:54 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: Liz

There are few people less relevant than Peggy Noonan. Peggy, you jumped the shark long ago. Just ride off into the sunset.


34 posted on 04/04/2014 6:39:43 AM PDT by KevinB (Barack Hussein Obama: Proof-positive that affirmative action does not work.)
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To: Liz

I liked the article, thanks for posting. I don’t always agree with Noonan, but I read her views.


35 posted on 04/04/2014 7:07:13 AM PDT by Chuzzlewit
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To: Liz

I thought that was a good insight too. Noonan is a true puzzle: how can she be so dense yet so exquisitely perceptive at the same time? How could she not see in 2008 that Obama was a deceptive leftist ideologue? 99.9 percent of freepers saw this, easily. Sometimes our vanguard isn’t so sharp, unfortunately.


36 posted on 04/04/2014 7:10:48 AM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Night Hides Not
PeggyNoonan photo PeggyNoonan_zps845e3a95.jpg
37 posted on 04/04/2014 7:40:35 AM PDT by Col Freeper (FR: A smorgasbord of Conservative Mindfood - dig in and enjoy it!)
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To: Yardstick

How ?....Noonan writes for $$$$


38 posted on 04/04/2014 7:50:22 AM PDT by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods.)
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To: Liz
What the bill declared it would do—insure tens of millions of uninsured Americans—it has not done. There are still tens of millions uninsured Americans. On the other hand, it has terrorized millions who did have insurance and lost it, or who still have insurance and may lose it.
39 posted on 04/04/2014 8:30:38 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: ncalburt

Thanks for making me laugh today. That was a funny post.


40 posted on 04/04/2014 10:41:43 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: randita

The squid image is really a poor one because it implies noting can be done about MahdiCare. The better image is a hopelessly buggy hard drive. The solution’s simple: reformat the hard drive and start over. Here it’s the same: repeal the whole mess and start over.


41 posted on 04/05/2014 2:54:19 PM PDT by libstripper
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