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Owner's anti-gay views cause furor over soon-to-open Sellwood grocery store (OR)
Oregonian ^ | 04/03/2014 | Harry Esteve

Posted on 04/04/2014 6:12:36 AM PDT by aimhigh

Another controversy has erupted over a Sellwood-Moreland business, this one over the owner’s views on gays and same-sex marriage.

Facebook and other social media sites have exploded over a soon-to-open fresh meat and vegetable store called Moreland Farmers Pantry. Neighbors and nearby business owners, once excited by the prospect of the new shop, are now backing away.

“They’re choosing to open a business in a very open-minded neighborhood,” said Tom Brown, owner of Brown Properties and president of the Sellwood Moreland Business Alliance. “I think their personal views are going to hurt.”

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: business; civilrights; gaystapotactics; homosexualagenda; lavendermafia; marriage; racketeering; rico
Those who were once the promoters of tolerance and diversity have now become the haters, the persecutors, and McCarthyites. They are now asking the question: "Do you NOW. . or have you EVER . . supported traditional marriage?"
1 posted on 04/04/2014 6:12:36 AM PDT by aimhigh
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To: aimhigh
“They’re choosing to open a business in a very open-minded neighborhood,”............ “I think their personal views are going to hurt.”

The first part is diametrically opposed to the second part.

2 posted on 04/04/2014 6:16:35 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Want to keep your doctor? Remove your Democrat Senator.)
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To: aimhigh

Amazing how a Pro-Christian view is now “Anti-Gay” and that somehow means you cannot own or operate a business in this “Free” country.


3 posted on 04/04/2014 6:17:16 AM PDT by CrappieLuck
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To: aimhigh

Thank God Jonas Salk was never caught supporting traditional marriage.


4 posted on 04/04/2014 6:19:34 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: CrappieLuck
“They’re choosing to open a business in a very open-minded neighborhood,”............ “I think their personal views are going to hurt.”

Uh, hey Sparky.... how, exactly, do you reconcile your statement? "Open-minded"? I do not think you grasp the concept...

5 posted on 04/04/2014 6:21:04 AM PDT by Common Sense 101 (Hey libs... If your theories fly in the face of reality, it's not reality that's wrong.)
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To: aimhigh

Typical “We have the right to our opinions and beliefs. You, on the other hand, do NOT have the right to your opinions and beliefs if they don’t fall in line with ours.” Amazingly they don’t/won’t see the hypocrisy in this at all cause we’re (at least me) all haters, bigots, homophobes, racis’, etc. Head shake.


6 posted on 04/04/2014 6:23:37 AM PDT by rktman (Ethnicity: Redneck. Race: Daytona 500)
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To: Balding_Eagle
“They’re choosing to open a business in a very open-minded neighborhood,”............ “I think their personal views are going to hurt.”

The first part is diametrically opposed to the second part.

It's called 'COGNITIVE DISSONANCE'. Liberals are very familiar with it.........................

7 posted on 04/04/2014 6:23:41 AM PDT by Red Badger (LIberal is an oxymoron......................)
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To: aimhigh

When fascism comes to America, it will be dressed as anti-fascism.


8 posted on 04/04/2014 6:27:32 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (Abortion - legalized murder for convenience)
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To: aimhigh

the closeted homosexuals of the effete media are pushing to make homosexual marriage ENDORSEMENT the default normal.

Advertisers need to be attacked for accepting this.

If Mozilla is a search engine and the company endorses homosexual behavior, what search results are they producing in their firefox product?


9 posted on 04/04/2014 6:29:23 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: aimhigh

“a very open-minded neighborhood”

These people are utterly and blissfully unaware of their blatant hypocrisy.


10 posted on 04/04/2014 6:31:13 AM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: Red Badger

“Open-minded” means faggies dominate.


11 posted on 04/04/2014 6:33:50 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: Darren McCarty

12 posted on 04/04/2014 6:35:06 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: elcid1970

“Open-minded” means their brains fell out........................


13 posted on 04/04/2014 6:35:39 AM PDT by Red Badger (LIberal is an oxymoron......................)
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To: CrappieLuck

Gays - the new intolerants and hyper hypocrites who are licking their lips while looking at the prospects at what they can do to your children. Welcome to the new world, to the new world...


14 posted on 04/04/2014 6:38:43 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: aimhigh
Open-minded, eh?


15 posted on 04/04/2014 6:38:55 AM PDT by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (I'm not anti-government, government's anti-me.)
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To: aimhigh

I can’t believe how simple this is....if the LGBT crowd doesn’t like the owner’s beliefs....then JUST DON’T GO TO THAT STORE...GO TO ANOTHER STORE. Damn...how hard is that ??????


16 posted on 04/04/2014 6:40:38 AM PDT by Mopp4
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To: aimhigh

Obviously, residents of this “open-minded” neighborhood need to get together at night, put on hoods, and burn down the offending enterprise.


17 posted on 04/04/2014 6:41:17 AM PDT by madprof98
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To: aimhigh

The left....the most tolerant people to those that agree with them


18 posted on 04/04/2014 6:43:57 AM PDT by LMAO (Insurgent conservative)
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To: CrappieLuck

the religious have fallen hook line and sinker into the trap and surrendered the debate. The battlefield is NOT religion it is logic and reason. By surrendering all the logic and reason as to the reason homosexuality is abnormal and not accepted by a responsible normal civilization, the left EASILY marginalized all objections as “mere faith” and not part of the public debate.


19 posted on 04/04/2014 6:44:20 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Mopp4
I can’t believe how simple this is....if the LGBT crowd doesn’t like the owner’s beliefs....then JUST DON’T GO TO THAT STORE...GO TO ANOTHER STORE. Damn...how hard is that ??????

If the products are good, and the prices are competitive, they'll do just fine. If we've learned anything, these kerfuffles pass within a couple of weeks.

20 posted on 04/04/2014 6:44:49 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (For every Ted Cruz we send to DC, I can endure 2-3 "unviable" candidates that beat incumbents.)
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To: Balding_Eagle

They ARE open-minded. Just so long as you believe the same as them.


21 posted on 04/04/2014 6:57:22 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: aimhigh

Upon assault by the gay lobby, business owners should immediately post signs offering a 10% discount on products/services for traditional marriage supporters.

Repeat as needed.


22 posted on 04/04/2014 6:57:45 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart (I)
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To: aimhigh
Is there a race to see who can be more outraged?

The tree huggers are outraged about any sort of energy that is effective.

The gays are outraged about any belief system that doesn't endorse their way of life.

The feminists are outraged about any woman holding a conservative view.

The muslims are outraged that the rest of us breathe.

23 posted on 04/04/2014 7:00:36 AM PDT by Bearshouse
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To: aimhigh

The Lavender Mafia successfully hounded Brendan Eich out as Mozilla’s CEO. Its taking no prisoners now.


24 posted on 04/04/2014 7:01:43 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: aimhigh

So the shop is unwelcome because the owners religious views differ from those of the neighbors?
How does this differ from the shop being unwelcome because the owner’s skin color differs from the neighborhood’s?
Does the left intend to create a ghetto for Christians?


25 posted on 04/04/2014 7:02:54 AM PDT by Wiser now (Socialism does not eliminate poverty, it guarantees it.)
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To: Wiser now

Plus you’re probably running it longer to warm it up in the winter.

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No it is garaged.


26 posted on 04/04/2014 7:10:17 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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To: Balding_Eagle

that was my initial reaction... they just do not see it...


27 posted on 04/04/2014 7:12:59 AM PDT by latina4dubya (when i have money i buy books... if i have anything left, i buy 6-inch heels and a bottle of wine...)
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To: aimhigh

To the extent that homosexuals and supporters of homosexual marriage want to refuse to do business with the store, I have no objection. If they want to go beyond not doing business and try to force the business to close via intimidation or political pressure - and the article doesn’t mention any - then they are wrong.


28 posted on 04/04/2014 7:14:00 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (I sooooo miss America!)
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To: aimhigh

Self proclaimed “Open minded” people hate everyone who disagrees with them.


29 posted on 04/04/2014 7:17:31 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: Balding_Eagle

Yep, they’re so “open-minded” they simply won’t tolerate dissent. But who says leftists ever had a smidgen of sanity?


30 posted on 04/04/2014 7:24:05 AM PDT by afsnco
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To: longtermmemmory
You are right as to debate tactics, so far as your defined situation. But the other side of the argument as to debate tactics is that to argue only from the point that the present homosexual demands are in clear defiance of logic & reason--as they clearly are--is to surrender the religious argument since Genesis.

The reality is that both arguments are essential. Why? Because those who will be persuaded by one, may not be persuaded by the other. There are people with strong reasoning ability. There are others who may lack strong reasoning ability, and need to rely on established guidelines.

Taking your point to the exclusion of all others, is analogous to suggesting that Lot should have gone out into the street to reason with the mob, demanding that he send out his visitors, for the mob's enjoyment.

The real point that should always be included in the argument is that everyone should have the right to decide on whatever basis the decider selects--so long as he does not overtly injure another--on with whom he wants to associate, or identify with, or do business with. This, now often enforced, denial of such right is a direct contradiction of the concept of personal liberty--a concept that should be defended, not abandoned.

Conservatives, who embrace the "Civil Rights" Acts of the 1960s, whether from guilt or confusion spawned in their school years, have abandoned concepts of personal freedom that were once sacred to free peoples. Yes, the present onslaught is an extension--but not in logic. The extension is merely in adding more categories favored for the special privilege of forcing others to accept you against their will, in business dealings.

31 posted on 04/04/2014 7:34:04 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: aimhigh

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Owner’s race cause furor over soon-to-open Sellwood grocery store

Another controversy has erupted over a Sellwood-Moreland business, this one over the owner’s race.

Facebook and other social media sites have exploded over a soon-to-open fresh meat and vegetable store called Moreland Farmers Pantry. Neighbors and nearby business owners, once excited by the prospect of the new shop, are now backing away from the idea of a black owned business in their neighborhood.

“They’re choosing to open a business in a very open-minded neighborhood,” said Tom Brown, owner of Brown Properties and president of the Sellwood Moreland Business Alliance. “I think their being Negroes is going to hurt.”

Recently, neighbors found Facebook postings by owner Chauncy Childs that brought them up short. She wrote a long post about her opposition to racial segregation, complaining that “a tiny minority of racists is dictating our social structure.” She also posted an article, written by someone else, supporting the right of businesses to serve black people.

She said she believes that segregation is wrong because it is the start of a slippery slope that could eventually lead to the persecution of black people. But she said those are her private religious beliefs and don’t reflect how the store will operate.

About two years ago, Sellwood neighbors raised a storm of protest over a business that offered services to Mexicans and Chinese. The business eventually moved.

Beth Ramsey, who runs White Is All Right, a Beauty Parlor in Sellwood, said she was initially excited about the prospect of shopping at the new store but now doubts she will go in.

“I’m disappointed,” said Ramsey, who is white. “It’s not like a boycott kind of energy. But I don’t need black people to have my money.”

Ramsey said she is a bit surprised by Childs’ naivete, not just about Facebook but also about the neighborhood she picked.

“This neighborhood is like Mayberry. Everybody knows everybody. Everybody is talking to everybody. Everybody is white.”


32 posted on 04/04/2014 7:43:35 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (WoT News: Rantburg.com)
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To: aimhigh
"open minded" does not mean "open minded".

It's Newspeak for: You must tolerate us, but we don't have to tolerate you.

Hopefull, some more instances like this and people will start to clue in on all this closed-minded open-mindedness.

33 posted on 04/04/2014 7:47:41 AM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: aimhigh

Cyberbullying by homosexualists is never decried by the media or socialist networking sites.


34 posted on 04/04/2014 7:54:05 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (The Texas judge's decision was to pave the way for same sex divorce for two Massachusetts women.)
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To: aimhigh

they only demanded tolerance of their intended victims


35 posted on 04/04/2014 7:59:07 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Balding_Eagle

yep


36 posted on 04/04/2014 7:59:33 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Wiser now

ghetto?

only until the ovens are built


37 posted on 04/04/2014 8:04:29 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: longtermmemmory
Your right in that by simple logic hetro and homo are not that same..but my main gripe is with libertarians because homosexual marriage is not libertarian or shouldn't be

Do a simple test
If a government bad homosexual acts would at most be tyranny over a minority ...ban heterosexual acts and at minimum it would be genocide of all humanity...

Heterosexually is a requirement of life like air and water..homosexual a preference like beer and cigarettes..they are not equal in necessity

a prohibition on beer and cigarettes is not equal to a prohibition on air and water now from a libertarian perspective you might say I don't believe the government has the right to prohibit it either ...that's fine..

but to prohibit is different than to provide and promote to provide and promote clean air and public water is not equal of providing in promoting beer and cigarettes to the public.

To say a government should not prohibit is what the left calls a negative right to say the government must provide and promote is with the left called a positive right.

so why are libertarians saying that the government must provide a positive right of marriage?...a libertarian is about negative rights prohibiting the government for getting involved not about the government promoting in providing.

funny I think the new Noah movie might be the most a great teacher of hetro and homo sex

the movie leftest twist of the story is save the animals and kill off mankind...so what goes on the boat?..hetro pairs of everything Noah loves and want to save...

but as for mankind that the left new Noah hates and wants to see die out..he wants no fertile female to survive..it effect his want is homo pairs for man..because man must die out....funny ..I do see a connection in thinking

38 posted on 04/04/2014 8:16:17 AM PDT by tophat9000 (Are we headed to a Cracker Slacker War?)
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To: Chickensoup

I have no idea what you are referring to I this post. Could you please explain?


39 posted on 04/04/2014 8:17:08 AM PDT by Wiser now (Socialism does not eliminate poverty, it guarantees it.)
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To: tophat9000

homosexual marriage will always be a legislative fiction like adoption. It has to be narrowly construed since it is not a inalienable right but rather a fiction based on behavior. (homosexual marriage is no different than legalizing animal sex or prostitution.)

It is just basic statutory construction.


40 posted on 04/04/2014 9:12:35 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: aimhigh

Its amazing to see the “Thought Nazis” on the comment thread of that site. What the hell has this country turned into?


41 posted on 04/04/2014 9:20:24 AM PDT by dragonblustar ( Psalm 103, Psalm 37:7, Ephesians 6:12)
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To: Darren McCarty

its not enough to bake a wedding cake for the gaystapo. they demand that we all get on our knees to honor them.


42 posted on 04/04/2014 5:36:35 PM PDT by yongin
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To: Wiser now

wrong thread.


43 posted on 04/04/2014 8:40:03 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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To: aimhigh
“They’re choosing to open a business in a very open-minded neighborhood,”

They don't sound very "open-minded" to me.

44 posted on 04/04/2014 8:44:02 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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