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Analysis: U.S. Cozies Up to Kiev Gov't Including Far Right(McCain pictured next to Neo-Nazi leader?)
NBC News ^ | 3/30/2014 | Alexander Smith

Posted on 04/04/2014 11:24:37 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist

Edited on 04/04/2014 11:31:18 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: colorado tanker
Do those idiots have any clue what the Nazis did to Ukraine in WWII?

Perhaps not, but they well remember what Russia did in the 1930's, namely kill millions of them.

51 posted on 04/04/2014 3:06:20 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: PapaBear3625

Well...probably I’d imagine. But who would say that? The evidence is overwhelming she’s a Nazi lover....


52 posted on 04/04/2014 4:02:28 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww

“I hate Ukraine Nazis.”


53 posted on 04/04/2014 4:04:18 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: caww

Good cartoon. What happens when two imperialist nations in the post cold war era bump into each other? - Looking like we’re going to find out...


54 posted on 04/04/2014 4:05:22 PM PDT by FBD
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To: caww

A lot better looking chicks out there, who also don’t happen to be Nazis.


55 posted on 04/04/2014 4:07:44 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: PapaBear3625

“Would one get banned for declaring her “not guilty”?”

Naw. There’s no accounting for taste. However, there is a saying. You might have heard it.

Beauty is only skin deep.

The “neo-Nazi” below-the-skin part kinda ruined it for me.


56 posted on 04/04/2014 4:29:56 PM PDT by saleman
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To: saleman
This is what she looks like on the inside.


57 posted on 04/04/2014 4:31:20 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

When I see Ukranians fighting Russians, or Europeons sacrificing to get their gas from somewhere else besides Russia, I will believe that they really want to stand against Russia instead of the usual “let the American bleed and pay for it”.


58 posted on 04/04/2014 4:56:02 PM PDT by TomasUSMC (FIGHT LIKE WW2, WIN LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist; caww; Psalm 144
Here, one of your Russian guys.

Russian nazi from StPetersburg is protesting in Ukraine as an "Odesa separatist"

His web profile tells he's a member of an organization, something called "The Black Hundreds". You can google for the history of the Black Hundreds on your own free time.

Here's another Putinista hero, Pavel Gubarev, self-proclaimed "people's governor of Donetsk". He was arrested by the Ukrainian authorities for trying to start a revolt. The man was a member of an ultra-right paramilitary organization called "Russian National Unity"


Translation: Let's clean up Russia!

To the unsuspecting reader:
the thread is a recycled article, appearing on FR maybe a dozen times in this form or another. It repeats the same Kremlin talking point of "nazi" takeover in Ukraine to justify Russian invasion of Ukraine. Given the pictures above, it's like calling the kettle black

59 posted on 04/04/2014 5:13:34 PM PDT by Ivan Mazepa
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

With 1/4 of the interim cabinet position being given to Svoboda, Kiev apparently ignored the 2012 European Parliament resolution - BIG TIME...................................... Lesson learned from years ago, 22% of the populace took over the country. It doesn’t need 51% to win over the country and start flying those red white and black flags nationwide. There is no love lost between Ukraine and Russia, the Ukrainian experience was past on from generation to generation as to how the Ukrainians were treated by the Russians. These are the people who threw flowers at the Germans as they entered the Ukraine, and many even joined their army. Its too bad so much of of Stalin’s rule is still kept hidden under the carpet when it comes to our media and education system.


60 posted on 04/04/2014 7:24:41 PM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (2016 an election or a coronation of a Queen?)
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To: Ivan Mazepa

In short, if I assume any objective accuracy from you - which I don’t - a double agent of unknown handlers to unspecified purposes.

I don’t see him setting fire to any buildings or people though.

“Given the pictures above, it’s like calling the kettle black”

Which is one reason among many that this region and this hydra-headed basket of snakes is not worth a single American bootlace.


61 posted on 04/04/2014 7:47:40 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (FIGHT! FIGHT! SEVERE CONSERVATIVE AND THE WILD RIGHT!)
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To: dfwgator

Because the Soviets did far, far worse to them. The forced starvation of Ukraine in the early 30’s is one of the most underreported genocides of the 20th Century. It isnt that difficult to see why many Ukrainians chose the Nazi’s as the lesser evil.

In Poland the Soviets killed or relocated millions, in their march to capture Germany, they raped any woman or girl they could get their hands on.

Soviet brutality almost made the Nazi’s seem compassionate. When your life is surrounded by sheer brutality, you latch on to any measure of possible freedom, no matter how fleeting.

I still have a lot of family in both Poland and Ukraine, these comments about Nazi’s taking over are way over blown, if you want to see real fascism, take a gander at what is going on in Russia nowadays.

The people in Ukraine are fed up though for the most part, Russia has been manipulating them and treating them like a satellite state even after the Soviet split. They push puppets like Yanukovych to further their interests, a criminal who robbed the nation blind. Ukrainians want nothing to do with joining NATO, but they so wish to join the EU, particularly the younger generation. They want a measure of independence from Russia and are tired of their nation being a Russian puppet.


62 posted on 04/04/2014 11:04:10 PM PDT by RedForemanRules
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To: RedForemanRules

Still no excuse for worshipping the Nazis.


63 posted on 04/04/2014 11:36:49 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Ivan Mazepa
....”the thread is a recycled article, appearing on FR maybe a dozen times in this form or another. It repeats the same Kremlin talking point of “nazi” takeover in Ukraine to justify Russian invasion of Ukraine”....

No it does not.......posts here are additional information/evidence discovered along the way and posted....but you do seem to have a real issue about the facts/evidence being presented...and always from the standpoint that people are either for Ukraine or Russia.....but as most know, there are no good guys on either side in Ukraine....it's a rough neighborhood even under the best of circumstances.

Besides what difference does it make if the Nazi's come also from other areas? They are like the Islamists when a uprising occurs and they have opportunity to fight....they flock to where ever they can unload their rage and hatred...and gain any political influence or advantages of.

However, just so you know the Pres. of Ukraine as well as varied Int'l diplomats are aware of the Nazi influence there and in the government. You just need to get up to date.

64 posted on 04/05/2014 12:17:29 AM PDT by caww
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To: RedForemanRules
I'd have to disagree the famine in Ukraine is unreported...in fact it has been very much recognized among all nations involved and official documents signed by those nations.......so that argument is no longer considered in Political circles today, though of course the citizens who lost family members remember it. It's also pretty apparent to even the International Leaders that dealing with Russia as it is today is not the same as dealing with the Russia as the USSR. Russia's become more socialist than Communist.....but it's just been the last fifteen years the people have pulled away from Communism so the oldsters are still alive, for that you can have a crossover between the generations. But most of the citizens, and certainly the current generation are socialists. As for Ukraine being manipulated by Russia...when hasn't there been a time when Ukraine hasn't someone manipulating them??? Poland and Romania and others have also....because Ukraine 'IS' a divided country clearly...the West favors the EU and the East and South Russia..... Additionally...look at who they've lined up for Presidential running! Same old people that have bankrupt them before....it always comes full circle for Ukraine....Oligarchs and Ukraine Politicians together will always keep Ukraine under...until the next repeated uprising...and the next.
65 posted on 04/05/2014 12:31:19 AM PDT by caww
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To: dfwgator

Who exactly is worshipping the Nazis??? You act as if Ukraine is somehow unique because there is the presence of Neo Nazi groups, the same groups that are present in every nation in Europe and far more influential in other countries such as Jobbik in Hungary.

When the referendum in Crimea was held, who showed up as “independent onservers?” The worst of the anti-semitics and Nazi’s that Europe has to offer. You had the worst extremists from over a dozen different nations, extremists who see themselves as fellow travelers with the Russians because of shared anti EU and anti Jew viewpoints. Go look at who was in attendance, i’ll be glad to post a link if you want one.

Its a strange relationship, the Neo
-Nazi’s and the liberal Neo Stalinists here in the U.S. all instantly took the Russian side in this affair.

What I am most shocked about is the people on here who seem to be content to be,Putin’s lapdogs simply because he opposes Obama. Nothing in Ukraone is perfect but people want a better life there, they dont want to be under Russia’s thumb...or anyone elses for that matter.


66 posted on 04/05/2014 5:15:45 AM PDT by RedForemanRules
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To: Psalm 144

Ukrainian women are overwhelmingly very attractive.

The irony of all this is incredible, especially when you consider the stance that the US/EU take towards “far right” political parties in Western Europe who are much, much more moderate than the folks in Ukraine they are now backing. It just emphasizes that this is all about geopolitical power politics and all the sanctimonious talk about “democracy” and “freedom” in either context is nonsense.


67 posted on 04/05/2014 8:31:13 AM PDT by Monmouth78
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To: Ivan Mazepa

~Translation: Let’s clean up Russia!

To the unsuspecting reader:
the thread is a recycled article, appearing on FR maybe a dozen times in this form or another. It repeats the same Kremlin talking point of “nazi” takeover in Ukraine to justify Russian invasion of Ukraine. Given the pictures above, it’s like calling the kettle black~

How many of these Russian Nazis are sitting in Russian Congress? None. They are laughing stock, pariahs.
And Ukraine’s now a cabinet ministers.


68 posted on 04/05/2014 10:12:22 AM PDT by wetphoenix
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To: dfwgator

There’s few and far in between in Ukraine I’d care to have much at all to do with. They are a culture to themselves as if abused woman who keep going back to the same people who abuse them....for the sake of being “taken care of”.

The Nazi’s there are likely not so many... but more so ‘the call’ when out and those throughout adjoining countries answered it and went there in order to support the leaders of the Right Sector.

Ukraine is one messed up population....just like the US is sadly becoming....as we see lawlessness rise here.


69 posted on 04/05/2014 11:29:50 AM PDT by caww
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To: Monmouth78

.....”this is all about geopolitical power politics and all the sanctimonious talk about “democracy” and “freedom” in either context is nonsense”....

Yes! Exactly right!


70 posted on 04/05/2014 11:32:26 AM PDT by caww
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To: RedForemanRules

....”Ukraine people want a better life there, they dont want to be under Russia’s thumb...or anyone elses for that matter”....

The only way any citizen will have the freedom they desire is to move to another country. Ukraine will always be a geo-political state..used and abused by all the players. It really is that simple.


71 posted on 04/05/2014 11:36:37 AM PDT by caww
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To: caww

Olena’s cute, when does she start doing press briefs in leather?

Hilarious that we’re involved in this Eastern European comedy...


72 posted on 04/05/2014 1:25:49 PM PDT by Regulator
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To: caww

That’s easy for you to stay from the comfort of your armchair, the average Ukrainian wants to stay and fight for their nation and desires freedom no less than any other man or woman. There is no reason they cant have it, it will take sone work but democracy and freedom are never easy to attain, this nation went through a brutal Civil War before things finally coalesced. The majority of Ukrainians dont want to be part of Russia or ruled by it.

I am amazed at people who claim to support freedom and then cynically deny it to others.


73 posted on 04/05/2014 1:26:46 PM PDT by RedForemanRules
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To: Ivan Mazepa; caww; Psalm 144; All; Admin Moderator

To: Ivan Mazepa

He isn’t my Russian guy, you user of Red Herrings and Ad Hominem to deflect from what McCain was doing, and try to deflect this discussion onto me and other Freepers who post here about this.

Your use of Red Herrings and Ad Hominem is weak and undermines your argument(s) completely.

If these guys aren’t Neo-Nazis (or something close to it)then who are, huh? Did something akin to the Nazi flag just magically appear in some peoples hands on this thread in the pics that were given, huh?

Please, no more trolling and personal attacks against me, Ivan.

Thank you.


74 posted on 04/05/2014 2:14:34 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist; All

74 posts. Wow.

Antiagitprop posts galore.


75 posted on 04/05/2014 2:17:46 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: caww

Actually the far right, the Fascists in other European countries support E
Russia, which is why the wackiest of Europe’s Nazis and fascists went to Crimea to “certify” the election there. Their allegiances are entirely to Russia, the Ukrainian fascists are anti Russian so theyve been blacklisted from the Euro Nazi crowd.


76 posted on 04/05/2014 2:18:25 PM PDT by RedForemanRules
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To: wetphoenix

One of the leading fascists in Russia, Alexandre Dugin, regularly consults with members of Putin’s inner circle. The mainstream news in Russia publishes anti Jewish screeds and fascist sentiment and philosophy is commonly presented in the Duma. Russian fascism isnt at the back doir knocking, theyve already taken over the house.

The reason Putin has been behaving as such is because these people are growing in power and regard him as being “too liberal” and too unwilling to do what is necessary.

Ukraine will have elections soon that will wash away any extremist element while in Russia the fascist and imperialist drums will only pound harder.


77 posted on 04/05/2014 2:18:25 PM PDT by RedForemanRules
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To: Psalm 144
In short, if I assume any objective accuracy from you -

And you shouldn't, because when Russia invades a sovereign state, which happens to be the country of my birth, I'm as "biased" as they come.

I don’t see him setting fire to any buildings or people though.

Storming administration buildings isn't bad enough? and they did kill one person in Donetsk 2-3 weeks ago.

Big difference to January, is that in January those were Ukrainians storming Ukrainian buildings. But here, these are Russian nationals storming Ukrainian buildings. (It is well documented, citizens of the RF were posting pictures and videos of them raising the Russian flags over Kharkiv and Luhansk council buildings)

Which is one reason among many that this region and this hydra-headed basket of snakes is not worth a single American bootlace.

Agree, no American troops in Ukraine

78 posted on 04/05/2014 11:01:27 PM PDT by Ivan Mazepa
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To: caww
but you do seem to have a real issue about the facts/evidence being presented...

If it's kowtowing to the official Kremlin line, which exaggerates the nationalist threat, paints the entire government and at least half of the Ukrainian population as Nazi, then yes.

and always from the standpoint that people are either for Ukraine or Russia

It is unfortunate that it's the "either-or" situation, but that's how it is for Ukrainians and pretty much every other Russian neighbour in Europe who cannot afford to look at it as an impartial observer.

American black-and-white equivalent is the problem of Islamic terrorism. An American is either behind his country, or he's not. There's no room for "enlightened" preachers talking about chickens coming home to roost.

but as most know, there are no good guys on either side in Ukraine

When Ukraine occupies Russia and oppresses its population for 300 years, commits a genocide or two, then we can compare the magnitudes of who is worse.

Besides what difference does it make if the Nazi's come also from other areas?

It's very "ballsy" (for the lack of a better word) when Russia, who is knee deep in hatred and intolerance towards other ethnicities accuses one of its victims, Ukraine, of the same crime. Recently, the Ukrainian Foreign ministry, as a retort to Russian accusations, brought up that 6 people have been killed in Russia since beginning of the year in a series of xenophobic attacks. If I recall, victims were from Central Asian countries and the Caucasus. In Ukraine - zero. (If you don't count one dead Crimean Tatar in the Russian "liberated" Crimea.)

However, just so you know the Pres. of Ukraine as well as varied Int'l diplomats are aware of the Nazi influence there and in the government.

I've been critical of Svoboda on this forum as well. Mykhalchyshyn and Myroshnychenko are an absolute embarrassment. Tiahnybok is a lightweight, all he can do is give anti-Russian speeches; Farion too, put a muzzle on all of them. Some are expecting that Svoboda might not even make it past the 5% threshold if elections were to be held. Now, they're just a liability who provide ammunition for the Kremlin.

79 posted on 04/05/2014 11:12:47 PM PDT by Ivan Mazepa
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To: wetphoenix
How many of these Russian Nazis are sitting in Russian Congress? None. They are laughing stock, pariahs. And Ukraine’s now a cabinet ministers.

One laughing stock does come to mind, certain former deputy speaker of the Russian Duma, good old Zhirik. Then there was Makashov, and that's just the obvious ones

Russian ministers under Putin have enough sense not to say the stuff on camera. They just support neo-nazi groups and send them into Ukraine

80 posted on 04/05/2014 11:21:13 PM PDT by Ivan Mazepa
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To: RedForemanRules
Do they know what freedom brings with it?.... Had they really known would they have succumbed to a violent coup and allowed their revolution to be taken over by outsiders as they did? ....They were 'not prepared'...the orange revolution taught them little.

Freedom brings with it responsibility and to think things through...plan and organize the aftermath...it is not enough to raise your voice.....Ukrainians once again left wide open huge gaps for others more powerful to rush in and take hold, and they did and they have....they "depended" on outsiders to foot the bill without understanding that freedom is not free...they would have to pay the piper.

Now they continue to play the victim.....I won't buy that anymore...they've had so many opportunites and derailed them along the way....and frankly 'The majority', as you say,..... depends on which side of the country you're looking at and which poll you choose to view.

As I've stated before, Ukraine is not a united country, it's been divided for years and years and until they accept that both sides must be represented in their governance, and that winning elections doesn;t mean you rule or be unjust to the other side...they cannot know the freedom they seek.

The choices they have made is not for freedom, but if or not Russia will have more say or the EU/US. They will end up as in the past....both will be appeased for sake of survival...and the battles will continue....within and without.

The only people denying Ukraine the freedom they seek are the Ukrainians.....as long as they have their hands in outsiders pockets they will owe...and bend to those they put over themselves.

No different than now the once great USA, I'm surprised there hasn't been a stand her!

81 posted on 04/05/2014 11:35:57 PM PDT by caww
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
If these guys aren’t Neo-Nazis (or something close to it)then who are, huh? Did something akin to the Nazi flag just magically appear in some peoples hands on this thread in the pics that were given, huh?

The point of this whole thread, and the nearly identical one like it, word for word, is not that there are nazis, but that it labels the entire government and at least half of the nation as nazi-sympathizers. Of course there are dangerous fringe elements in Ukraine, arguing against that fact is like arguing that there are no people with red hair. But these groups are a small minority in the government, in the parliament and in the general population.

Now let me tell you what happens when you label Ukraine's government and at least half of the country as nazi-sympathizers. It means, these people are animals and you can go into their country, annex a part of their territory for yourself, and demand a 'regime change', preferably headed by a twice-convicted loyal puppet like Yanek. Nazi-sympathizers deserve no sympathy and can easily be killed on the spot, or resettled in Siberia (an idea that is being floated by one of the Russian ministers). This "neo-Nazi" casus belli gives Putin carte blanche to do anything (that's my Latin/French for the day, but I'll only use it once here) Thankfully, nobody in the world is falling his line, except for beacons of democracy like Syria and N. Korea

You could be genuinely concerned about these fringe groups, or just repeating what Putin says to support his war against Ukraine, I don't know. If it's the second, then it's just a cynical exploitation of the real anti-Semitic threat that does exist in the world.

World Jewish Congress denounces ‘exaggerated accounts’ of Ukrainian anti-Semitism

82 posted on 04/05/2014 11:51:28 PM PDT by Ivan Mazepa
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To: Ivan Mazepa
Sounds like the only players you see in Ukraine are the Russians and Ukranians.....which isn't the case by any means. The International Politicians are knee deep and have been, and that not FOR Ukraine but against Putin. Ukraine is basically the bystander.

As you know there are many moving parts to Ukraine that the EU/NATO/US and Russia are influencing....and they 'all' use the undesirables to their advantage while they attach themselves to whatever piece of the Ukrainian pie is significant to them.... Not just Russia Ivan...and there is no exaggeration to it...it's how the big players work.

All that's happening in Ukraine isn't about their freedom...it's about how much of Ukraine the interested parties can control, manage, and steal. ...which of course the USA had all Ukraine's gold shipped immediately to the FED.."for safe keeping" don't you know, (Rather like they did for Germany, and we now know how that played out.) when in fact it's payback for the revenues the USA put into Ukraine to support 'their' revolution. Ukraine will never see that gold again.

Russia got Ukraine's Crimea, the ports, the navy and their oil.

US got Ukraine's gold, and perhaps a missil base?

EU got their economic trade deal which Ukraine will have to use to pay off the EU.

Ukraine will get exactly what these three squabble over to give them...and you can be sure it won't be sufficient for Ukraine to ever go it alone.

Ukraine now has three boots on their necks.

83 posted on 04/06/2014 12:03:58 AM PDT by caww
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To: RedForemanRules

Laughing because Ukraine is so screwed no matter how they play their hand.....there are so many fractions in their divided country it’s a wonder in itself they’ve even survived one another let alone all those coming in and out...bad guys always go where the fight is even if they have no vested interest.

Course it might look like that one day here with the way the nation is catering to every thug coming here now. Just takes a tipping point and enough push to get the masses in charge mode. Heck we already have the Mexicans marching and the Muslims marching.....next we’ll see Puerta Ricans and Cubans doing likewise in mass. ....and they’ll get infiltrated too.


84 posted on 04/06/2014 12:11:46 AM PDT by caww
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To: Regulator
....”Hilarious that we’re involved in this Eastern European comedy...”......

I was just laughing about it tonight......Ukraine's like a bad three ring circus of untamed animals all trying to get payback for being mistreated...and we hear all the roaring and growling while the "tammers' crack the whips to get them in line.


85 posted on 04/06/2014 12:56:33 AM PDT by caww
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To: Regulator
....”Hilarious that we’re involved in this Eastern European comedy...”......

I was just laughing about it tonight......Ukraine's like a bad three ring circus of untamed animals all trying to get payback for being mistreated...and we hear all the roaring and growling while the "tammers' crack the whips to get them in line.


86 posted on 04/06/2014 12:56:34 AM PDT by caww
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To: caww
“Here is a photo on Svobodas, Right sector Spokes woman...”

Again. What is this ?

87 posted on 04/06/2014 6:39:37 AM PDT by Grzegorz 246
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To: Grzegorz 246

A meeting she posted to and about, one of several on her face book page. .... Note her mentioning how the candles represented what would be otherwise torches carried in the streets, and how great she thought this was representative of. If you post back you’ll find link to her site.


88 posted on 04/06/2014 7:28:21 AM PDT by caww
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To: Grzegorz 246

Live ..

Donetsk and Luhansk, Ukraine.....calling for Russia annexation....today...In Luhansk seize control of local administrations and raise Russian flag as was done in Donetsk... Armed seizure of power....Arrested leaders....now freed,... ...Protesters in Donetsk Cheer upon learning Pro-Russians in Luhansk Police Negotiated with the Release of Their Leaders.

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/artem77


89 posted on 04/06/2014 8:10:38 AM PDT by caww
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To: PapaBear3625
Donestk, Ukraine today....Russian speakers just announced to the crowd, the return of Donetsk to Russia inside City HQ's......5 minutes ago...


90 posted on 04/06/2014 8:19:19 AM PDT by caww
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91 posted on 04/06/2014 8:21:20 AM PDT by caww
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92 posted on 04/06/2014 8:21:20 AM PDT by caww
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At headquarters making announcement...appears to be a fluid situation....and a repeat of Crimea.


93 posted on 04/06/2014 8:23:41 AM PDT by caww
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To: caww
Members of the ultra-nationalist group, the Right Sector, have clashed with pro-Russian protesters in the city of 'Kharkov'..... No details are known so far...Note: Yellow bands...


94 posted on 04/06/2014 8:27:09 AM PDT by caww
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To: caww
At Donetsk Regional Administration


95 posted on 04/06/2014 8:37:12 AM PDT by caww
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96 posted on 04/06/2014 8:39:32 AM PDT by caww
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To: caww

Russian to pro-Kremlin protesters in Donetsk eastern Ukraine: ....don’t worry about the police, we’ve made arrangements with them.


97 posted on 04/06/2014 8:42:05 AM PDT by caww
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To: caww
As Pro-Russian protesters seized the Administration Building in Donestk earlier today...


98 posted on 04/06/2014 8:50:34 AM PDT by caww
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To: caww

Breaking in Ukraine.....coming undone....

Being reported....More Right Sector and Euromaidan activists are heading to Donetsk Ukraine to stop pro-Kremlin operations.....so far it appears police are not interfering much to speak of...might be relatively compliant with the Pro-Russian protesters?

More....Looks like the clash for Eastern Ukraine will be in Donestk currently....time will tell but several cities are protesting there...Donestk, Lukansk, and one other...

More....Ukrainian police are trying to block access to Donetsk but Pro-Russians are providing real-time alternate routes and checkpoint...

More...pro-Kremlin groups from all over eastern Ukraine are calling in to give their estimated time of arrival in Donesk to support operation.


99 posted on 04/06/2014 9:14:05 AM PDT by caww
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To: caww
As Pro-Russian Protesters took over Administration building earlier today in Donestk...


100 posted on 04/06/2014 9:26:55 AM PDT by caww
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