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Islamic group gets go-ahead to cut crosses off NY church
AP via FoxNews ^ | April 3, 2014

Posted on 04/04/2014 12:46:56 PM PDT by Altenkrug

Edited on 04/04/2014 1:44:04 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

SYRACUSE, N.Y. A city board on Thursday gave a Muslim group the go-ahead to remove six crosses from the roof and spires of a century-old former Catholic church so the now-vacant Gothic structure can be used as a mosque.


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Somebody tell me what’s going down? Christian crosses chopped off churches in a country founded by Christians who then gave it prosperity and repect. Islam is gaining ground and spreading throughout the country at a fast pace. Is that what Barak Hussein and his Saudi buddies mean by "religious freedom"?
1 posted on 04/04/2014 12:46:56 PM PDT by Altenkrug
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To: Altenkrug

I would have to side with the muslims here. It is their property to do with what they want.


2 posted on 04/04/2014 12:48:06 PM PDT by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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To: Altenkrug

build a six-foot chain-link fence.

Wow, what an open and tolerant religion, no wonder the libs love them so much...


3 posted on 04/04/2014 12:48:37 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: Altenkrug

I’ll bet they’re real happy to do that.


4 posted on 04/04/2014 12:49:45 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible traitors. Complicit in the destruction of our country.)
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To: Altenkrug

This is a mark of conquest, nothing less.


5 posted on 04/04/2014 12:54:42 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: DonaldC
I would have to side with the muslims here. It is their property to do with what they want.

I hate to agree, but yeah.

6 posted on 04/04/2014 12:55:20 PM PDT by MeganC (Support Matt Bevin to oust Mitch McConnell! https://mattbevin.com/)
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To: Altenkrug
To young freepers,

You better do something about muzzies.

My generation hasn't done, and won't do, a thing.

7 posted on 04/04/2014 12:57:47 PM PDT by Jacquerie ( Article V.)
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To: Altenkrug

Maybe if those 200 really cared they would have bought the property. Owners gets to do what they want for at least a little while until some neighborhood nazi group gets power.


8 posted on 04/04/2014 12:58:00 PM PDT by Lx (Do you like it? Do you like it, Scott? I call it, "Mr. & Mrs. Tenorman Chili.")
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To: Altenkrug

I hope lightning strikes them down when they do it- or let’em fall and become wet spots on the cement.


9 posted on 04/04/2014 1:02:36 PM PDT by ClearBlueSky (When anyone says its not about Islam...it's about Islam. That death cult must be eradicated.)
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To: MeganC

Not if those crosses were rest stops for an endangered species of migratory meadowlarks.


10 posted on 04/04/2014 1:04:43 PM PDT by Argus
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To: DonaldC

O.K. You go to Riyadh buy a plot of land and start building a Christian church, a synagogue or a Buddhist pagoda. I’ll see what becomes of you...


11 posted on 04/04/2014 1:07:21 PM PDT by Altenkrug
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To: Altenkrug

This isn’t Riyadh and we’re talking about what was basically an abandoned building.


12 posted on 04/04/2014 1:10:08 PM PDT by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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To: Lx

Is it possible to compare financial resources of the local residents with those the muzzies get from their sponsors from abroad?


13 posted on 04/04/2014 1:14:56 PM PDT by Altenkrug
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To: Altenkrug

G-d does not live in houses built by man. The church are the people not the building. I’ve seen former buildings used as churches turned into bars, restaurants, used clothing stores and then the reverse. Failed supermarkets turned into churches. The Triune G-d lives within us, not in some building.


14 posted on 04/04/2014 1:18:58 PM PDT by SkyDancer (I Believe In The Law Until It Intereferes With Justice. And Pay Your Liberty Tax Citizen.)
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To: GraceG

The chain-link fence is probably part of their fortification efforts, prior to turning the mosque into a forward base for terror operations.


15 posted on 04/04/2014 1:20:16 PM PDT by 2harddrive
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To: Altenkrug
Something is wrong with Christianity or the current conception of it.

I don't know what is wrong, but this sort of thing seems like a repeat from the 7th or 8th century when Islam ran over Christians in the middle east.

The growth of Islam is a certain danger to a free society.

16 posted on 04/04/2014 1:21:22 PM PDT by freerepublicchat
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To: Altenkrug

Get real.... the church is not a church, just a building. The congregation is gone.


17 posted on 04/04/2014 1:24:13 PM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: Altenkrug

Isn’t this practice symbolic of a victory over the infidel in the eyes of muslims, or does that only have to do with building a new mosque on conquered ground?


18 posted on 04/04/2014 1:25:25 PM PDT by al_c (Obama's standing in the world has fallen so much that Kenya now claims he was born in America.)
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To: headstamp 2

Why was the church deserted?...... it failed. The congregation is elsewhere.

There is no conquest.


19 posted on 04/04/2014 1:26:54 PM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: Altenkrug

Sure would be a shame if the old place burned to the ground.


20 posted on 04/04/2014 1:30:18 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Altenkrug
"was a neighborhood landmark built by German immigrants 100 years ago"

Germans being displaced by Muslims.

Another sign of the westeuropeanization of the US.

21 posted on 04/04/2014 1:32:20 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: bert

Whatever makes you feel better, bert.


22 posted on 04/04/2014 1:33:44 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: Altenkrug

They should have purchased the property themselves instead letting it be sold to muslims. What did they think was going to happen?


23 posted on 04/04/2014 1:37:33 PM PDT by WayneS (Help Control Politician Overpopulation - Spay or Neuter Your Senator or Congressman Today!)
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To: Argus

...or loggerhead shrikes...


24 posted on 04/04/2014 1:38:03 PM PDT by WayneS (Help Control Politician Overpopulation - Spay or Neuter Your Senator or Congressman Today!)
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To: Argus

Or maybe the wood is ‘habitat’ for some manner of endangered termite...


25 posted on 04/04/2014 1:38:42 PM PDT by WayneS (Help Control Politician Overpopulation - Spay or Neuter Your Senator or Congressman Today!)
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To: BenLurkin
Yup.

I don't mean nuthin' by it - I'm just sayin'...

26 posted on 04/04/2014 1:39:49 PM PDT by WayneS (Help Control Politician Overpopulation - Spay or Neuter Your Senator or Congressman Today!)
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To: DonaldC

“This isn’t Riyadh” - Soon it will be.

“and we’re talking about what was basically an abandoned building.” - Does it mean that any abandoned building can be converted to a mosque? Tolerance, tolerance... The more mosques there are, the sooner the day will come when they teach us all how to live. Just take a look at what’s happening in muslim neighborhoods in Britain, Belgium or Sweden. You want this in the U.S.?


27 posted on 04/04/2014 1:42:18 PM PDT by Altenkrug
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To: Altenkrug

Let’s not wait 400 years to put a stop to this crap like we did last time!


28 posted on 04/04/2014 1:44:43 PM PDT by G Larry (There's the Beef!)
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To: Altenkrug
>>He said the crosses must be removed because the Islamic faith prohibits worship of idols and symbols.

29 posted on 04/04/2014 1:46:08 PM PDT by struggle
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This is a disgrace.

Islam is a war plan. And Leftwing scumbags are using it to eradicate Christianity.


30 posted on 04/04/2014 1:56:37 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Altenkrug
Syracuse, where I was born and raised, has been in steep decline for decades. The beautiful gothic Episcopalian church I attended as a kid is surrounded by blight and was ready to shut down last time I visited. The Catholic church in the article probably was facing the same fate.

I understand that part -- but MUSLIMS? What brings muslims to an old rustbelt city in Central New York? What are they doing there? What sustains them, economically, unless it's New York State's welfare benefits? It's very creepy and strange.

31 posted on 04/04/2014 2:08:58 PM PDT by jumpingcholla34
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To: DonaldC

I agree. It’s their mosque. They bought it. It’s not like they stormed the place and slaughtered the Christians like they did at the Hagia Sophia in 1453.

In my town, the moslems bought a building that had been used as a church. The windows of the church were in the shape of the Cross. They stayed about two years, to my amusement, before they were replaced. But after all, it is their building.


32 posted on 04/04/2014 2:14:26 PM PDT by henkster (I don't like bossy women telling me what words I can't use.)
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To: DonaldC
"I would have to side with the muslims here. It is their property to do with what they want."

I agree, as long as the decision was consistent with applicable laws, rather than based on fear or political correctness, and did not give the Muslims an outcome that others wouldn't have gotten.
33 posted on 04/04/2014 2:39:39 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: jumpingcholla34
"I understand that part -- but MUSLIMS? What brings muslims to an old rustbelt city in Central New York? What are they doing there? What sustains them, economically, unless it's New York State's welfare benefits? It's very creepy and strange."

There's a method to their madness - create enclaves within the larger society, eventually demand sharia law in those areas, frighten everyone else away, and - behold! - eventually you've got a network of independent Muslim city-states within the USA, something akin to Indian reservations. And much of it is funded with foreign money.
34 posted on 04/04/2014 2:45:21 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: DonaldC

I don’t see anything about it being designated a “historic landmark”; so I don’t see how anyone could stop them.


35 posted on 04/04/2014 2:46:01 PM PDT by logic101.net (How many more children must die on the altar of gun control?)
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To: struggle
"He said the crosses must be removed because the Islamic faith prohibits worship of idols and symbols."

Then why do they call it "blasphemy" to insult Mohammed, a human being?
36 posted on 04/04/2014 2:47:35 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: Altenkrug

What has happened to the “save the old buildings of America” program?

I would rather it not, but this seems to be a case of “Jewish Lightning” just being ordered, aqnd ready to be delivered.

(if ya’s don’t know, ask a firefighter.)


37 posted on 04/04/2014 2:48:24 PM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: NYer; Salvation; markomalley; SeekAndFind; tired&retired; zot

Islamic group gets go-ahead to cut crosses off Syracuse, NY church


38 posted on 04/04/2014 2:50:32 PM PDT by GreyFriar ( Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: logic101.net
"I don’t see anything about it being designated a “historic landmark”; so I don’t see how anyone could stop them."

I even have problems with the "historic landmark" designation. It is often applied to buildings that are not in fact historic in the normal sense, but which for one reason or another appeal to the historic preservation boards as worth saving in their original form. In these cases, the actions of the boards can be almost confiscatory, either placing huge financial burdens on the property owners, or preventing them from making changes to make the property suitable for the owners' intended purpose.
39 posted on 04/04/2014 2:52:39 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: Steve_Seattle

-— the boards -—

The actions take on near religious fervor


40 posted on 04/04/2014 2:54:38 PM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: Altenkrug

Stand by for its bombardment with swine blood cocktails.


41 posted on 04/04/2014 3:06:58 PM PDT by Huskerfan44 (Huskerfan44 (22 Yr, Navy Vet))
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To: bert
"The actions [of the historic preservation boards] take on near religious fervor."

I think there should be a law that - if an HPB imposes restrictions that the property owner cannot comply with, or does not want to comply with - the HPB should be forced to buy the property at FMV plus 20%, which would be a surcharge to compensate for the building's alleged "historic" status, thereby discouraging the boards from frivolous "historic" designations.
42 posted on 04/04/2014 3:24:42 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: Tax-chick; GregB; Berlin_Freeper; SumProVita; narses; bboop; SevenofNine; Ronaldus Magnus; tiki; ...

Catholic ping!


43 posted on 04/04/2014 5:05:23 PM PDT by NYer ("You are a puff of smoke that appears briefly and then disappears." James 4:14)
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To: GreyFriar

This is a form of Jihad.


44 posted on 04/04/2014 8:08:08 PM PDT by zot
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To: struggle

For future reference, should anyone need reminding, this is the bulls-eye.


45 posted on 04/04/2014 8:59:26 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: Altenkrug

If whoever owned the church wanted dignified treatment of the crosses, they should have not sold it to non-Christians or at least respectfully removed the crosses themselves.

Had it been purchased to be a Jewish synagogue, the same thing would happen.


46 posted on 04/04/2014 9:01:55 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Steve_Seattle

I’m not a fan of “historic preservation” in many cases either; it tends to be overused.


47 posted on 04/04/2014 9:05:48 PM PDT by logic101.net (How many more children must die on the altar of gun control?)
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