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Mazda recalling cars due to potential spider web damage
WTVQ ^ | 4-3-14 | AP story

Posted on 04/04/2014 12:48:19 PM PDT by smokingfrog

DETROIT (AP) — Mazda announced on Friday that it is recalling more than 40,000 Mazda 6 cars in the United States, because spiders can weave a web in a vent hose and cause the fuel tank to crack.

The recall involves cars from the 2010 through 2012 model years equipped with 2.5-liter engines. Mazda recalled cars in 2011 for the same problem, for which it put covers on the vent line, but has since discovered that spiders can still get past them.

(Excerpt) Read more at wtvq.com ...


TOPICS: Japan; News/Current Events; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: weird

1 posted on 04/04/2014 12:48:20 PM PDT by smokingfrog
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To: smokingfrog

All Spider Man’s Fault, Captain America never did such shenanigans...


2 posted on 04/04/2014 12:50:10 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: smokingfrog

Gee, how could they have missed THAT one on the design FMEA...


3 posted on 04/04/2014 12:52:06 PM PDT by Jack of all Trades (Hold your face to the light, even though for the moment you do not see.)
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To: GraceG

4 posted on 04/04/2014 1:04:55 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Jack of all Trades

“Boss, I found the root cause of the cracked fuel tanks...spiders.”
“Jones, you need a vacation.”


5 posted on 04/04/2014 1:07:22 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: smokingfrog

Had a spider web jam the crossfeed tank control on a Cessna 172 I flew once. Couldn’t figure out why valve would not move. Mechanic found this huge spiderweb inside the control valve. It happened twice.


6 posted on 04/04/2014 1:15:02 PM PDT by SkyDancer (I Believe In The Law Until It Intereferes With Justice. And Pay Your Liberty Tax Citizen.)
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To: smokingfrog

If the vapor pressure build-up causes the gas tanks to crack, rather than the spider webs to blow out....it seems the problem is weak, cheap gas tanks!


7 posted on 04/04/2014 1:15:14 PM PDT by 2harddrive
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To: GraceG

A web can crack a fuel tank?


8 posted on 04/04/2014 1:17:49 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Jack of all Trades

The Death Star had a similar design flaw


9 posted on 04/04/2014 1:18:54 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: 2harddrive

They say that spiderweb material is nearly as strong as kevlar (by weight).


10 posted on 04/04/2014 1:21:19 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: SkyDancer
At least your Cessna did not get caught IN a giant spider web.


11 posted on 04/04/2014 1:25:58 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: smokingfrog

Always a good idea to check any firearms stored for a while before firing.


12 posted on 04/04/2014 1:31:41 PM PDT by Second Amendment First
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To: smokingfrog

I had a spider take up residence in a handlebar switch housing on a motorcycle I used to own. The headlight kept going off intermittently until I cleaned the dried-one smooshed spider from the contacts.


13 posted on 04/04/2014 1:34:45 PM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: SkyDancer
My flight instructor years ago always made cycling the cross valve part of the pre-flight on the 172. Now I know why.
14 posted on 04/04/2014 1:38:10 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: Disambiguator

dried-one = dried-ON

Sheesh.


15 posted on 04/04/2014 1:48:07 PM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: smokingfrog

16 posted on 04/04/2014 1:52:59 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: mad_as_he$$

Thing was, the valve lever moved okay but the avgas somehow hardened the spider web into some sort of plastic mass and wouldn’t flow properly.


17 posted on 04/04/2014 2:01:59 PM PDT by SkyDancer (I Believe In The Law Until It Intereferes With Justice. And Pay Your Liberty Tax Citizen.)
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To: smokingfrog

Looks like they walked away and it wasn’t really even a crash.


18 posted on 04/04/2014 2:20:16 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
LOL No kidding!

My first thought was...

"It's always something!" - Roseanne Rosannadanna

19 posted on 04/04/2014 2:26:39 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: smokingfrog

well, buy a Bugatti...... mine comes with a spider vacuum on the vent tube

It is electric and the computer zaps the tube at switch on


20 posted on 04/04/2014 2:30:26 PM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: Paladin2

If the crew and passenger/s leave the plane before it’s on the ground and a crane sets the plane on the ground does that qualify as a “landing that everyone walked away from?”


21 posted on 04/04/2014 2:34:28 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: TigersEye

I recognize that it seems to be a frame grab from a movie, but I’d say that it was a successful landing, on a cable (happens in the Navy every day....)


22 posted on 04/04/2014 2:36:27 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: smokingfrog

OMG God,,Lord have mercy!!!!

Yellow sac spider? Would be of the Boehner or GOPe species?

A spider,,a S-P-I-D-E-R!!!

How do OTHER auto manufacturers get around this?

Must be an NSA spider!


23 posted on 04/04/2014 2:37:31 PM PDT by austinaero
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To: smokingfrog

So...
How are they going to fix it??

The article talks about “updating software”....WTH?>>>??
Is that to keep the spiders off the

WEB-site?

This cannot be real,,it just cannot be real!


24 posted on 04/04/2014 2:39:00 PM PDT by austinaero
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To: smokingfrog

We got in our van one time, and I was fishing around in the glove box for something. I had not closed my door yet, and hubby said, “back away from the van,” in a military command sort of voice. I listened for once without demanding an explanation. And, shiver, there was a tarantula in the glove box!!! Hubby killed it. Eww. Shiver. Ugh. Desert life was fun.


25 posted on 04/04/2014 2:41:52 PM PDT by petitfour
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To: smokingfrog

Hmmph! Used to be told that the fuel tank vent pipe ran back to the carburetor, so it was a sealed line, and aiding in getting enough fuel to the carburetor to start the engine.


26 posted on 04/04/2014 2:45:28 PM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: Paladin2
I think I like the way the Navy snags planes better!

That might be from a movie but I'm sure I have seen a real story of a light plane like that getting hung up on some cables.

27 posted on 04/04/2014 2:45:35 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: smokingfrog
The only times I have been bit by spiders is pulling fuel tanks down for repairs on cars. Twice. Never saw anything but their webs. I never even got to squish one. They like that spot on cars.
People should be aware of rodents under their hood too.
Its real common to find air filter housings full of kibble and rat turds all over the engine. Those suckers will chew a wiring harness. (use poison and mothballs)
28 posted on 04/04/2014 2:51:15 PM PDT by right way right (America has embraced the suck of Freedumb.)
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To: austinaero

Software will probably keep the car from running if there is too much pressure in the gas tank (or something).


29 posted on 04/04/2014 2:53:20 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: GeronL

Spider silk is one of the strongest natural fibers in nature. Clog it up with some dead bugs and the spider itself it makes a nice little cork to stop up a vent.

Of course rather than allow Mazda to just fix the problem with a filter of some sort Congress will call endless hearings and Holder will shake them down for a couple billion dollars.


30 posted on 04/04/2014 2:53:25 PM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: smokingfrog

There are going to be so many recalls now, with GM botching up this Colbalt situation.


31 posted on 04/04/2014 2:54:48 PM PDT by right way right (America has embraced the suck of Freedumb.)
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To: right way right

I was living in the Chicago area and one year I had a mouse take up residency in the glovebox of my Honda Accord. I never opened that compartment. One day, my hubby opened it and found a nest made from chewed up paper maps and insurance papers!!!!

I was mortified until many of my neighbors said the same thing. Hey,,it’s cold, you park a warm car on a subzero cold night,,the rats will find your car...it’s just that simple.

Freaked me out!


32 posted on 04/04/2014 2:54:51 PM PDT by austinaero
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To: petitfour
Hubby killed it.

I hope he didn't use a flame thrower.


33 posted on 04/04/2014 2:59:01 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Terry L Smith

I think the vent goes to a charcoal canister?


34 posted on 04/04/2014 2:59:43 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: 2harddrive

“If the vapor pressure build-up causes the gas tanks to crack, rather than the spider webs to blow out....it seems the problem is weak, cheap gas tanks!”

Things were at one time WAY overdesigned. This cost money and weight. Whereas 40 years ago a part might be 300% stronger than it needed to be, now it might be 110%. This could not be done without computers and simulations.

Transmissions are a good example in a car. You could probably put 800 horsepower, no problemo, through a Turbo-Hydramatic transmission of the 60’s and 70’s with maybe a tweek here and there. BUT...that transmission also cost almost 20HP just to operate!

Worse: BUILDINGS were way over-designed because there was no way to simulate stress, so people used the seat of their pants and multiplied by some number. The Empire State building is WAY over-designed. Modern skyscrapers...not so much.


35 posted on 04/04/2014 3:01:33 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: The Antiyuppie

You’re right.
And most tanks now are plastic (elastomers, actually)
Which is not all bad.
I’ve had several steel tanks on old cars rust through underneath the straps.


36 posted on 04/04/2014 3:04:21 PM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: Disambiguator

Years ago our heat pump quit working. I removed the cover and found an earwig squashed between two relay contacts. His juices had reacted with the electricity and the contact was ruined. Bad timing on his part. Damned bugs!


37 posted on 04/04/2014 3:47:39 PM PDT by pa_dweller (Extremist tea-party-driven hostage-taking legislative arsonist without a life)
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To: Paladin2
Looks like they walked away and it wasn’t really even a crash.

I don't know as "walked" away is right - that's a hellva big first step. (note the trees below.)

It must have been a tricky operation to get them off that swinging plane - not to mention eventually getting the plane down in one piece.

I had a acquaintance that hit a wire like this, over a river, at night, (passenger on board.)

They spun over and down, but nothing was found for 4 months - when a wheel assembly washed up.

38 posted on 04/04/2014 5:01:09 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does - by their fruits)
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To: smokingfrog

If the vent line is plugged,the tank is possibly collapsing under vacuum when operating,rather than building pressure.


39 posted on 04/04/2014 5:04:06 PM PDT by oldtech
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To: SkyDancer

Yikes! That is spooky. Did I mention- I hate spiders!


40 posted on 04/05/2014 5:20:10 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: Organic Panic

Careful, the global warming crowd will get the spiders on the endangered species list and then use that to shut down the evil auto industry.


41 posted on 04/05/2014 6:25:32 AM PDT by Gadsden1st
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To: Organic Panic
"Spider silk is one of the strongest natural fibers in nature."

Spider silk is just amazing stuff. Compared to a steel wire of the same thickness, spider web has a heavier breaking strength, is more flexible and lighter.

42 posted on 04/05/2014 6:31:42 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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