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Obama Willing to Further Legitimize Marijuana (Really)
LA Weekly ^ | Fri, Apr 4, 2014 | Dennis Romero

Posted on 04/04/2014 4:26:38 PM PDT by nickcarraway

The Obama administration today signaled that it was willing to work with Congress to move marijuana out of the federal outlaw-drug category known as Schedule I.

Under that classification, shared with heroin, ecstasy and other narcotics, marijuana has no legitimate use whatsoever, even for medical research or patient treatment. Lower schedule status, such as II or III, gives drugs limited medical legitimacy.

Today U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder, President Obama's top cop, addressed a House Appropriations Committee budget hearing:

We'd be more than glad to work with Congress if there is a desire to look at and reexamine how the drug is scheduled, as I said there is a great degree of expertise that exists in Congress. It is something that ultimately Congress would have to change, and I think that our administration would be glad to work with Congress if such a proposal were made.

The move would not necessarily mean huge changes in a state like California, where you can tell a doctor you have back pain and have a bag of green a half hour later.

And keep in mind that the House is Republican-controlled.

While some conservatives, including Southern California's Dana Rohrabacher, are pro-decriminalization, it would be hard for us to believe Republicans would support some medical legitimacy for pot in a Tea Party world.

In any case, the Drug Policy Alliance explains the impact of rescheduling marijuana this way:

Re-categorizing marijuana would not legalize the drug under federal law, but it could ease restrictions on research into marijuana's medical benefits and allow marijuana businesses to take tax deductions.

Bill Piper, director of national affairs for the alliance, sounded cautions about expecting too much out of any possible rescheduling of the drug:

Rescheduling would be a modest step in the right direction, but would do nothing to stop marijuana arrests or prohibition-related violence. Now that the majority of the American public supports taxing and regulating marijuana, this debate about re-scheduling is a bit antiquated and not a real solution to the failures of marijuana prohibition.

Strangely, DEA chief Michele Leonhart has been making bizarre statements about weed this week.

First she said that voters in Colorado and Washington were essentially coerced into voting to legalize recreational pot. She also said that Mexican drug cartels were infiltrating those states to prepare to sell marijuana at prices cheaper than one could find at a legal retailer.

Then she stated that people should be concerned about legalization because dogs were getting stoned and sick in Colorado as a result of that state's new recreational-pot sales.

One has to wonder, after the president has said he believes alcohol is more dangerous that weed, how long Leonhart is going to last in this Obama administration.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: choomgang; government; marijuana; obama
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1 posted on 04/04/2014 4:26:38 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway
No kidding???


2 posted on 04/04/2014 4:30:35 PM PDT by null and void (I don't mind getting older, but I hate wearing out!)
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To: nickcarraway

Well, beer has no legitimate use whatsoever either. It certainly results in death sometimes too.

Maybe it should be a schedule 1 drug.

Just sayin’.


3 posted on 04/04/2014 4:30:39 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: nickcarraway
You know that possession and smoking of marijuana is the civil rights issue of our day. /s

What better way to send us back to the dark ages.

4 posted on 04/04/2014 4:33:54 PM PDT by oldbrowser (Is Obama being blackmailed?)
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To: nickcarraway

“The move would not necessarily mean huge changes in a state like California, where you can tell a doctor you have back pain and have a bag of green a half hour later.”

Yes, it wouldn’t mean a huge change, because California is already treating it as a lower scheduled drug and doesn’t seem to care what the Feds think abou it.

Whatever your opinion on the drug legalization issue, I think it is important to note that these are the first real successful examples of state nullification that we have seen in a long time. Us conservatives can probably learn a thing or two from studying the tactics that the pro-marijuana crowd used to get that done.


5 posted on 04/04/2014 4:34:05 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: nickcarraway

Why go to the trouble to drug the general population when you can get them to do it themselves so you will be unopposed to do your agenda?


6 posted on 04/04/2014 4:35:12 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: chris37

“Well, beer has no legitimate use whatsoever either. It certainly results in death sometimes too.”

Hmmm, beer can help with an upset stomach, it’s fizzy!

Whiskey’s good for sterilizing wounds too.


7 posted on 04/04/2014 4:35:34 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: nickcarraway

The only problem I have with legalizing marijuana is that it will make it more accessible to children. Despite what some say, it is a gateway drug, and it has long term effects on cognitive ability. It can also in fact lead to psychotic behavior in some cases.


8 posted on 04/04/2014 4:35:42 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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To: Boogieman

Jerry Brown had this one right.
Who wants a country of stoners?


9 posted on 04/04/2014 4:35:52 PM PDT by griswold3 ("Pray for Obama. Psalm 109:8".)
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To: nickcarraway

Finally. It’s taken this long, but 0bama has finally said one solitary thing I agree with. Whatever you think about legalization/etc., marijuana just doesn’t fit the criteria for a schedule 1 drug.


10 posted on 04/04/2014 4:36:02 PM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: nickcarraway
Just the sound of the men
smoking on the choom
ga-a-ang

Just the sound of the men
smoking on the
choom,

gang...

11 posted on 04/04/2014 4:36:25 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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To: nickcarraway

This is all about making people more permissive and indifferent to Obama’s destructive leftist policies.


12 posted on 04/04/2014 4:37:54 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (GO WISCONSIN BADGERS GO!)
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To: Telepathic Intruder

I guess the fact it will expand the power and size of government and turn it into a drug cartel is no big deal.


13 posted on 04/04/2014 4:38:32 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: mountainlion

It’s probably worth asking ourselves why the population feels the need to escape reality, if we want to reverse the trend.

I’m not just talking marijuana, I mean, look at how many people nowadays take legal “anti-depressants”, which are psychoactive mood-enhancers themselves. I think there’s a fundamental dissatisfaction in our society, and people feel there is nothing they can do to change the situation, so they retreat to these things.


14 posted on 04/04/2014 4:39:39 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

States should make their own laws regarding marijuana. I oppose a one-size-fits-all approach.


15 posted on 04/04/2014 4:40:03 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (GO WISCONSIN BADGERS GO!)
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To: chris37

Modern man can get by without beer today, just as we don’t need meat anymore, but beer has been very important for thousands of years.


16 posted on 04/04/2014 4:40:35 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: Boogieman
Yes, it wouldn’t mean a huge change, because California is already treating it as a lower scheduled drug and doesn’t seem to care what the Feds think abou it.

It would make one very big difference in California. Under the [federal] Internal Revenue Code, someone selling Schedule I drugs cannot deduct business expenses, so the medical marijuana shops in California pay federal income tax on their gross receipts, not on their net income. Re-scheduling marijuana to Schedule II or lower would permit them to take tax deductions for their rent, telephone and other business expenses.

17 posted on 04/04/2014 4:40:46 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: null and void
it gets ever more absurder by the hour/




18 posted on 04/04/2014 4:42:15 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill)
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To: griswold3

Well, even if it was legalized, I don’t think it would go that far. Most people, even though it’s illegal, get the opportunity to try it, and only a minority seem to enjoy it and want to keep doing it. Even a lot of those folks grow out of it after a few years.

I expect if it was legal, more people would try it and use it, but it would still probably be a minority that abused it regularly.


19 posted on 04/04/2014 4:42:41 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: nickcarraway

Yes, it probably won’t be a free market thing either. Not only will the government highly regulate and tax it, they’ll most likely be in the business of distributing it too.


20 posted on 04/04/2014 4:42:51 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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To: Boogieman

There are some groups in this country that think it is necessary to brutally beat people to get their point across. Some attack a person though social media or advertisers in an effort to change reality.


21 posted on 04/04/2014 4:43:31 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: nickcarraway

Both types? “Medical” and “recreational”?


22 posted on 04/04/2014 4:44:59 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (We are human beings. The debate, ANY DEBATE, is NEVER OVER!)
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To: Telepathic Intruder
The only problem I have with legalizing marijuana is that it will make it more accessible to children.

Legalizing marijuana would make it harder for children to get it. Bars and liquor stores check ID, because the ABCC will shut them down if they sell to minors. People who sell illegal drugs don't worry about things like that. I have heard from friends of mine with high school kids that it's much easier for their kids to get grass than beer.

23 posted on 04/04/2014 4:44:59 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: nickcarraway

Hardly a surprise from the Choom-Ganger-in-Chief.

America-2014 for you. Dopehead dregs and perverts. That’s what’s come to define this country. I’ll be damned if I see America as even worth trying to salvage anymore.


24 posted on 04/04/2014 4:45:32 PM PDT by greene66
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To: Boogieman

It will probably be virtually mandatory. Even before it was legal you could get pulverized if you refuse to do it.


25 posted on 04/04/2014 4:46:54 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Telepathic Intruder

If you think drug cartels are bad, wait until the government and big business are making money off it. They will make the Zetas look like the Boy Scouts.


26 posted on 04/04/2014 4:48:06 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: null and void

dumBO risks alienating his core Chicago constituency.


27 posted on 04/04/2014 4:50:53 PM PDT by depressed in 06 (America conceived in liberty, dies in slavery.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

> Both types? “Medical” and “recreational”?

There sre SO many people with medical problems in California. They walk around like zombies unable to work because they have no energy and to top it off they are so hungry all the time but that’s okay; the government gives them free food, housing, unemployment checks, and housing. I don’t think its working though because they don’t ever seem to be out looking for work anymore...


28 posted on 04/04/2014 4:51:55 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: nickcarraway
I'm in the category of person that says the federal busybodies have no right to tell me what to do about guns, drugs, or sexuality. At what point we decided it was ok for them to do that, I don't know. Maybe they should do what they're supposed to do, viz. secure the borders. Oh wait, they don't do that.

Nevermind.

29 posted on 04/04/2014 4:52:20 PM PDT by LouAvul (In a state of disbelief as to how liberals destroyed America in a mere 40 years.)
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To: Lurking Libertarian
Legalizing marijuana would make it harder for children to get it

How do you figure? The government will need to make sure kids get marijuana, because they'll be making billions of dollars from it. Face it, ten years after legalization, people won't even know what the word, "libertarian," means. The government will expand tenfold and control every aspect of our lives. George Soros has been promoting marijuana because he explicitly know that.

30 posted on 04/04/2014 4:52:29 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

There will still be a war on drugs because of the ppl evading the tax! Just put it on the EBT card a stoned population has to be easier to deal with! Roll another fatty there Slim!


31 posted on 04/04/2014 4:52:40 PM PDT by DocJhn
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To: nickcarraway

Cocaine, Morphine, Meth and Opium are schedule II drugs. Changing the schedule doesn’t mean that the drugs become legal, it just means that doctors can prescribe them if there’s a medically appropriate usage of them. I’ve got no problem at all with that at all. There was never any reason under the law for it to be schedule I in the first place. The thing is, the administration could move it down the schedule if they wanted to do so. Making a show of asking congress to do it is nothing more than a political move as the administration makes its push for the pothead vote this fall.


32 posted on 04/04/2014 4:53:38 PM PDT by Blackyce (French President Jacques Chirac: "As far as I'm concerned, war always means failure.")
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To: Lurking Libertarian

Well, I respectfully disagree that legalizing it will make it harder to get illegally. It will be more wide-spread, so that if a kid wants it they will be able to get it from just about anyone. And do you really think the government is going to crack down hard on something they made legal? Obama is already refusing to enforce laws that he disagrees with.


33 posted on 04/04/2014 4:56:18 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

Hasn’t worked that way in CO.


34 posted on 04/04/2014 5:03:21 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: ansel12

I look at it like this.

If you wanna do something at the end of the day to unwind and make yourself feel better, or even make yourself feel as you wish to feel, then do it.

Now of course, I mean within reason, i.e. I do not mean cocaine and heroin and meth, or even a full bottle of JD, but within reason.

I’m an adult, and I’m going to do what I want, and that is just about all there is to it.

Especially here lately, I just am not particularly concerned with what laws say anymore, especially since, Mr. Eric the Black said we can ignore laws that we don’t agree with.


35 posted on 04/04/2014 5:05:51 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: nickcarraway

however, tobacco will be banned from sale on military bases


36 posted on 04/04/2014 5:06:36 PM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: nickcarraway

Well, I don’t know where you live, but I’ve never had that experience.


37 posted on 04/04/2014 5:09:24 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

Consider yourself lucky.


38 posted on 04/04/2014 5:10:25 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Even a stopped clock...

But, it won’t get him my vote. I don’t think there are many single issue pot voters who would otherwise vote GOP that would vote for him because of this.


39 posted on 04/04/2014 5:11:02 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

marijuana just doesn’t fit the criteria for a schedule 1 drug.
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AGREED 100% , it should be studied ,, it has hundreds of potentially useful compounds within it... and while he’s at it he should send Holder on a tour requesting that non-violent mj offenders have their sentences reduced .. lets get a few million more people back to work... they’re doing absolutely no-one any good in jail.


40 posted on 04/04/2014 5:13:07 PM PDT by Neidermeyer (I used to be disgusted , now I try to be amused.)
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To: Boogieman
I think there’s a fundamental dissatisfaction in our society, and people feel there is nothing they can do to change the situation, so they retreat to these things.

No, the RATs have a religion, and its name is Psychology...the high priests are the psychiatrists. If you believe them, everybody has some kind of mental shortcoming, and if you give the government experts enough time, they will diagnose you with a disorder which requires treatment.

If you don't believe me, just ask some poor schlub who made the grave mistake of asking the DHHS (Department of Hell and Human Sacrifice) to help them with their kids. The DHHS Nazis often take them away, for no good reason, and then proceed to run both the kids and the parents through a Liberal Hell on Earth. They wind up spending thousands of taxpayer dollars on worthless and unneeded "therapies" treating such things as "separation anxiety" and requiring "anger management" classes.

(See: Logan Marr) (See: Janet Reno...child abuse)

The RAT welfare shrinks, diagnosing anyone who requests help, and treating them with drugs, accomplishes several things:

1) It justifies the existence of the myriad of state funded "behavioral therapy" non-profits
2) It makes the medical welfare patient totally dependent on his gubmint drug dealer.
3) It locks the addict in as a RAT voter and buys his vote with your money.

41 posted on 04/04/2014 5:19:28 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Legalizing pot will just produce more brain-dead RAT voters, totally incapable of critical thinking.


42 posted on 04/04/2014 5:26:07 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
"This is all about making people more permissive and indifferent to Obama’s destructive leftist policies."

I knew it!

Smoking dope will turn you into a Communist! I'm betting it'll make you go blind too.

43 posted on 04/04/2014 5:29:36 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: nickcarraway

It never made any sense to put marijuana on Schedule I with heroin. Even meth and cocaine are Schedule II.


44 posted on 04/04/2014 5:32:45 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: ansel12

No beer, no peace!


45 posted on 04/04/2014 5:58:30 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: nickcarraway
Strangely, DEA chief Michele Leonhart has been making bizarre statements about weed this week. First she said that voters in Colorado and Washington were essentially coerced into voting to legalize recreational pot.

LOL Yes, I resent that guy who came to the door with a shotgun and made me vote for it.

46 posted on 04/04/2014 5:59:13 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: greene66
I’ll be damned if I see America as even worth trying to salvage anymore.


47 posted on 04/04/2014 6:05:40 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: nickcarraway

If it happens, can it be smoked in public buildings? If it can I’ll say my tobacco is marijuana. :-)


48 posted on 04/04/2014 6:13:50 PM PDT by ExCTCitizen (I'm ExCTCitizen and I approve this reply. If it does offend Libs, I'm NOT sorry...)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Anybody who wants to use pot already is. It’s been that way for decades.


49 posted on 04/04/2014 6:21:57 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: null and void

Well he is George (the Antichrist) Soros’ boy after all ... he’s spread billions of dollars around toward that end! I am frankly surprised that it took this long for Obongo to push for it.


50 posted on 04/04/2014 6:27:09 PM PDT by galtman (America is great because she is good. If America ceases to be good, America will cease to be great.)
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