Skip to comments.Obama Willing to Further Legitimize Marijuana (Really)
Posted on 04/04/2014 4:26:38 PM PDT by nickcarraway
The Obama administration today signaled that it was willing to work with Congress to move marijuana out of the federal outlaw-drug category known as Schedule I.
Under that classification, shared with heroin, ecstasy and other narcotics, marijuana has no legitimate use whatsoever, even for medical research or patient treatment. Lower schedule status, such as II or III, gives drugs limited medical legitimacy.
Today U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder, President Obama's top cop, addressed a House Appropriations Committee budget hearing:
We'd be more than glad to work with Congress if there is a desire to look at and reexamine how the drug is scheduled, as I said there is a great degree of expertise that exists in Congress. It is something that ultimately Congress would have to change, and I think that our administration would be glad to work with Congress if such a proposal were made.
The move would not necessarily mean huge changes in a state like California, where you can tell a doctor you have back pain and have a bag of green a half hour later.
And keep in mind that the House is Republican-controlled.
While some conservatives, including Southern California's Dana Rohrabacher, are pro-decriminalization, it would be hard for us to believe Republicans would support some medical legitimacy for pot in a Tea Party world.
In any case, the Drug Policy Alliance explains the impact of rescheduling marijuana this way:
Re-categorizing marijuana would not legalize the drug under federal law, but it could ease restrictions on research into marijuana's medical benefits and allow marijuana businesses to take tax deductions.
Bill Piper, director of national affairs for the alliance, sounded cautions about expecting too much out of any possible rescheduling of the drug:
Rescheduling would be a modest step in the right direction, but would do nothing to stop marijuana arrests or prohibition-related violence. Now that the majority of the American public supports taxing and regulating marijuana, this debate about re-scheduling is a bit antiquated and not a real solution to the failures of marijuana prohibition.
Strangely, DEA chief Michele Leonhart has been making bizarre statements about weed this week.
First she said that voters in Colorado and Washington were essentially coerced into voting to legalize recreational pot. She also said that Mexican drug cartels were infiltrating those states to prepare to sell marijuana at prices cheaper than one could find at a legal retailer.
Then she stated that people should be concerned about legalization because dogs were getting stoned and sick in Colorado as a result of that state's new recreational-pot sales.
One has to wonder, after the president has said he believes alcohol is more dangerous that weed, how long Leonhart is going to last in this Obama administration.
Well, beer has no legitimate use whatsoever either. It certainly results in death sometimes too.
Maybe it should be a schedule 1 drug.
What better way to send us back to the dark ages.
“The move would not necessarily mean huge changes in a state like California, where you can tell a doctor you have back pain and have a bag of green a half hour later.”
Yes, it wouldn’t mean a huge change, because California is already treating it as a lower scheduled drug and doesn’t seem to care what the Feds think abou it.
Whatever your opinion on the drug legalization issue, I think it is important to note that these are the first real successful examples of state nullification that we have seen in a long time. Us conservatives can probably learn a thing or two from studying the tactics that the pro-marijuana crowd used to get that done.
Why go to the trouble to drug the general population when you can get them to do it themselves so you will be unopposed to do your agenda?
“Well, beer has no legitimate use whatsoever either. It certainly results in death sometimes too.”
Hmmm, beer can help with an upset stomach, it’s fizzy!
Whiskey’s good for sterilizing wounds too.
The only problem I have with legalizing marijuana is that it will make it more accessible to children. Despite what some say, it is a gateway drug, and it has long term effects on cognitive ability. It can also in fact lead to psychotic behavior in some cases.
Jerry Brown had this one right.
Who wants a country of stoners?
Finally. It’s taken this long, but 0bama has finally said one solitary thing I agree with. Whatever you think about legalization/etc., marijuana just doesn’t fit the criteria for a schedule 1 drug.
Just the sound of the men
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This is all about making people more permissive and indifferent to Obama’s destructive leftist policies.
I guess the fact it will expand the power and size of government and turn it into a drug cartel is no big deal.
It’s probably worth asking ourselves why the population feels the need to escape reality, if we want to reverse the trend.
I’m not just talking marijuana, I mean, look at how many people nowadays take legal “anti-depressants”, which are psychoactive mood-enhancers themselves. I think there’s a fundamental dissatisfaction in our society, and people feel there is nothing they can do to change the situation, so they retreat to these things.
States should make their own laws regarding marijuana. I oppose a one-size-fits-all approach.
Modern man can get by without beer today, just as we don’t need meat anymore, but beer has been very important for thousands of years.
It would make one very big difference in California. Under the [federal] Internal Revenue Code, someone selling Schedule I drugs cannot deduct business expenses, so the medical marijuana shops in California pay federal income tax on their gross receipts, not on their net income. Re-scheduling marijuana to Schedule II or lower would permit them to take tax deductions for their rent, telephone and other business expenses.
Well, even if it was legalized, I don’t think it would go that far. Most people, even though it’s illegal, get the opportunity to try it, and only a minority seem to enjoy it and want to keep doing it. Even a lot of those folks grow out of it after a few years.
I expect if it was legal, more people would try it and use it, but it would still probably be a minority that abused it regularly.
Yes, it probably won’t be a free market thing either. Not only will the government highly regulate and tax it, they’ll most likely be in the business of distributing it too.
There are some groups in this country that think it is necessary to brutally beat people to get their point across. Some attack a person though social media or advertisers in an effort to change reality.
Both types? “Medical” and “recreational”?
Legalizing marijuana would make it harder for children to get it. Bars and liquor stores check ID, because the ABCC will shut them down if they sell to minors. People who sell illegal drugs don't worry about things like that. I have heard from friends of mine with high school kids that it's much easier for their kids to get grass than beer.
Hardly a surprise from the Choom-Ganger-in-Chief.
America-2014 for you. Dopehead dregs and perverts. That’s what’s come to define this country. I’ll be damned if I see America as even worth trying to salvage anymore.
It will probably be virtually mandatory. Even before it was legal you could get pulverized if you refuse to do it.
If you think drug cartels are bad, wait until the government and big business are making money off it. They will make the Zetas look like the Boy Scouts.
dumBO risks alienating his core Chicago constituency.
> Both types? Medical and recreational?
There sre SO many people with medical problems in California. They walk around like zombies unable to work because they have no energy and to top it off they are so hungry all the time but that’s okay; the government gives them free food, housing, unemployment checks, and housing. I don’t think its working though because they don’t ever seem to be out looking for work anymore...
How do you figure? The government will need to make sure kids get marijuana, because they'll be making billions of dollars from it. Face it, ten years after legalization, people won't even know what the word, "libertarian," means. The government will expand tenfold and control every aspect of our lives. George Soros has been promoting marijuana because he explicitly know that.
There will still be a war on drugs because of the ppl evading the tax! Just put it on the EBT card a stoned population has to be easier to deal with! Roll another fatty there Slim!
Cocaine, Morphine, Meth and Opium are schedule II drugs. Changing the schedule doesn’t mean that the drugs become legal, it just means that doctors can prescribe them if there’s a medically appropriate usage of them. I’ve got no problem at all with that at all. There was never any reason under the law for it to be schedule I in the first place. The thing is, the administration could move it down the schedule if they wanted to do so. Making a show of asking congress to do it is nothing more than a political move as the administration makes its push for the pothead vote this fall.
Well, I respectfully disagree that legalizing it will make it harder to get illegally. It will be more wide-spread, so that if a kid wants it they will be able to get it from just about anyone. And do you really think the government is going to crack down hard on something they made legal? Obama is already refusing to enforce laws that he disagrees with.
Hasn’t worked that way in CO.
I look at it like this.
If you wanna do something at the end of the day to unwind and make yourself feel better, or even make yourself feel as you wish to feel, then do it.
Now of course, I mean within reason, i.e. I do not mean cocaine and heroin and meth, or even a full bottle of JD, but within reason.
I’m an adult, and I’m going to do what I want, and that is just about all there is to it.
Especially here lately, I just am not particularly concerned with what laws say anymore, especially since, Mr. Eric the Black said we can ignore laws that we don’t agree with.
however, tobacco will be banned from sale on military bases
Well, I don’t know where you live, but I’ve never had that experience.
Consider yourself lucky.
Even a stopped clock...
But, it won’t get him my vote. I don’t think there are many single issue pot voters who would otherwise vote GOP that would vote for him because of this.
marijuana just doesnt fit the criteria for a schedule 1 drug.
AGREED 100% , it should be studied ,, it has hundreds of potentially useful compounds within it... and while he’s at it he should send Holder on a tour requesting that non-violent mj offenders have their sentences reduced .. lets get a few million more people back to work... they’re doing absolutely no-one any good in jail.
No, the RATs have a religion, and its name is Psychology...the high priests are the psychiatrists. If you believe them, everybody has some kind of mental shortcoming, and if you give the government experts enough time, they will diagnose you with a disorder which requires treatment.
If you don't believe me, just ask some poor schlub who made the grave mistake of asking the DHHS (Department of Hell and Human Sacrifice) to help them with their kids. The DHHS Nazis often take them away, for no good reason, and then proceed to run both the kids and the parents through a Liberal Hell on Earth. They wind up spending thousands of taxpayer dollars on worthless and unneeded "therapies" treating such things as "separation anxiety" and requiring "anger management" classes.
(See: Logan Marr) (See: Janet Reno...child abuse)
The RAT welfare shrinks, diagnosing anyone who requests help, and treating them with drugs, accomplishes several things:
1) It justifies the existence of the myriad of state funded "behavioral therapy" non-profits
2) It makes the medical welfare patient totally dependent on his gubmint drug dealer.
3) It locks the addict in as a RAT voter and buys his vote with your money.
Legalizing pot will just produce more brain-dead RAT voters, totally incapable of critical thinking.
I knew it!
Smoking dope will turn you into a Communist! I'm betting it'll make you go blind too.
It never made any sense to put marijuana on Schedule I with heroin. Even meth and cocaine are Schedule II.
No beer, no peace!
LOL Yes, I resent that guy who came to the door with a shotgun and made me vote for it.
If it happens, can it be smoked in public buildings? If it can I’ll say my tobacco is marijuana. :-)
Anybody who wants to use pot already is. It’s been that way for decades.
Well he is George (the Antichrist) Soros’ boy after all ... he’s spread billions of dollars around toward that end! I am frankly surprised that it took this long for Obongo to push for it.