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Potential FDA Move on Recycling Grain Could Spike Beer Prices
KVDR ^ | April 4, 2014 | Shaul Turner

Posted on 04/04/2014 5:38:19 PM PDT by nickcarraway

Beer-makers in Colorado are upset about a proposal to keep them from recycling their used grain, and it could affect how much you pay for a beer this summer.

The Food and Drug Administration wants to stop beer brewers from selling their leftover grain to ranches so it can be used as food for cattle.

It’s not a requirement yet, but beer-makers make money off their used grain and say the new regulation would force them to dump millions of tons of it instead of recycling.

The grains are used barley, wheat and other grains that are steeped in hot water. The FDA is trying to make sure beer-makers meet the same standards as livestock and pet food manufactuers.

The overhaul also involves new sanitary handling procedures. The government says doing this will cut down on the spread of bacteria that can make animals and people sick.

Heavy hitters from the beer industry have been included in hearings. They want the government to reconsider.

Recycling the grain brings in money for beer-makers. Using that grain helps ranchers because feed prices are three times higher than recycled grain. The cost could be passed on, though it’s not expected to be a huge increase.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government
KEYWORDS: beer; fda; grain; nannystate
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1 posted on 04/04/2014 5:38:19 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

this will angriate my peeps


2 posted on 04/04/2014 5:39:56 PM PDT by bigheadfred
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To: nickcarraway

I am peerless so I am not overly concerned...


3 posted on 04/04/2014 5:40:29 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Fight Tapinophobia in all its forms! Do not submit to arduus privilege.)
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To: nickcarraway

Can’t the government keep their godamn noses out of ANYTHING?

Leave us the hell alone already!!!!


4 posted on 04/04/2014 5:40:59 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: nickcarraway

Darn peers from that college fraternity need to stay off my lawn Saturday nights.


5 posted on 04/04/2014 5:45:43 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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To: nickcarraway

So much for the happy cows.


6 posted on 04/04/2014 5:46:49 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: nickcarraway

Where is the evidence? Where is the need? Who or what have gotten sick?

Is this ANOTHER government solution to problem that doesn’t exist?????


7 posted on 04/04/2014 5:47:00 PM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: nickcarraway

The FDA, another branch of the government busybodies, trying to tell you what you should do. Can we please tell the Marxists and the Moderate Democrats to get out of people lives? November, let’s tell them that we can do without them. We were fine for 210 years...


8 posted on 04/04/2014 5:48:14 PM PDT by ExCTCitizen (I'm ExCTCitizen and I approve this reply. If it does offend Libs, I'm NOT sorry...)
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To: nickcarraway

The title change is FReeping HILARIOUS!!!


9 posted on 04/04/2014 5:48:33 PM PDT by bigheadfred
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To: faucetman

Cows nationwide have been eating mash forever. The farm I worked on some 35 years ago was feeding mash to dairy cows way back then.


10 posted on 04/04/2014 5:49:11 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: nickcarraway

So brew your own beer and do whatever you want with the leftover grain. I toss it in my compost bin. Another advantage to home brewing is you don’t have to pay beer taxes.


11 posted on 04/04/2014 5:49:57 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Guns SAVE Lives! www.VCDL.org)
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To: unixfox

Not with these bunch of Marxists...


12 posted on 04/04/2014 5:51:25 PM PDT by ExCTCitizen (I'm ExCTCitizen and I approve this reply. If it does offend Libs, I'm NOT sorry...)
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To: nickcarraway
and other grains that are steeped in hot water.

Even the steep water has feed value, and is used in animal production.

Of course, neither the 'recycled' grain or the steep water is included when calculating the exorbitant costs of making ethanol.

Because it is so important to make a big case against ethanol, it is permissible, even admirable, to lie by omission.

13 posted on 04/04/2014 5:52:19 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Want to keep your doctor? Remove your Democrat Senator.)
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To: bigheadfred
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!

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14 posted on 04/04/2014 5:55:37 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Balding_Eagle

Case against ethonol? The case makes itself.


15 posted on 04/04/2014 5:56:40 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Balding_Eagle

Ever heard of distiller’s grains?

http://ohioline.osu.edu/as-fact/distillers.html


16 posted on 04/04/2014 5:56:50 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: ExCTCitizen

Communists do love starving them Kulaks...


17 posted on 04/04/2014 5:58:08 PM PDT by null and void (I don't mind getting older, but I hate wearing out!)
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To: nickcarraway

Only half of my objection to the size of FedGov is the massive waste of money on things that don’t need to be done. The other half is the massive interference in personal matters and in business matters that are none of the government’s business in any case. The idea of wasting perfectly good feed to make some bureaucrat happy and give a civil service climber one more “accomplishment” to list for his annual performance review disgusts me. Why not give every government agency a choice - they can review all regulations/laws they are responsible for and decide which 50% will not be repealed at the end of this year. We’d still have too many rules, but it would be a step in the right direction.


18 posted on 04/04/2014 5:59:46 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: nickcarraway

They’re gonna go too far and one day we will fight side by side with our bovine revolutionaries.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQMbXvn2RNI


19 posted on 04/04/2014 5:59:48 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: driftdiver
The case makes itself

The case you've heard that 'make themselves' leave out, among other things, distillers grains, which is a big item.

However, as I've asserted, it is so important to continue the case against ethanol that to even point that out is heretical on my part.

20 posted on 04/04/2014 6:00:52 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Want to keep your doctor? Remove your Democrat Senator.)
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To: jjotto

I have an in depth study of the value of distillers grains when used as livestock feeds.

I used the term ‘recycled’ because that was the term used in the article.


21 posted on 04/04/2014 6:02:39 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Want to keep your doctor? Remove your Democrat Senator.)
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To: Balding_Eagle

It’s not unusual for ethanol plants to make more profit on distiller’s grains than on ethanol.


22 posted on 04/04/2014 6:05:57 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: nickcarraway

My fave brewpub does this. A local organic beef farmer picks up the spent grain every few days, feeds it to his cattle, and sells (at a steep discount) the resulting meat to the pub.

Awesome beef, at a decent price, and minimal waste. What’s not to love?


23 posted on 04/04/2014 6:08:46 PM PDT by Don W (Know what you WANT. Know what you NEED. Know the DIFFERENCE!)
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To: jjotto

I didn’t know that, but it’s easy to believe.


24 posted on 04/04/2014 6:12:10 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Want to keep your doctor? Remove your Democrat Senator.)
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To: faucetman

“Is this ANOTHER government solution to problem that doesn’t exist?????”

Maybe there is some waste-hauler or landfill management firm that will benefit, big time.

Plus it punishes people who simply enjoy beer, by making it cost more.

And harms the farm industry, the government wants to control the source of food (and Marx was only interested in capital and the means of industrial production!)


25 posted on 04/04/2014 6:19:36 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: nickcarraway
The government says doing this will cut down on the spread of bacteria that can make animals and people sick.

I suspect this is mostly conjecture. The overwhelming need for this new regulation is simply the FDA's overwhelming need to regulate.

26 posted on 04/04/2014 6:21:39 PM PDT by tbpiper
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To: nickcarraway

if there was overwhelming evidence of widespread cattle injury/deaths from this, i’d say the grains would need to be processed to ensure no bacterial problems were passed onto the cattle. i have yet to see this overewhelming evidence of significant cattle problems from this.


27 posted on 04/04/2014 6:24:12 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: nickcarraway

Unfit for methanol production?


28 posted on 04/04/2014 6:25:42 PM PDT by lightman (O Lord, save Thy people and bless Thine inheritance, giving to Thy Church vict'ry o'er Her enemies.)
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To: Balding_Eagle

The only case needed against ethanol is its lower energy density. Its simply not as good as gasoline and uses more energy then it creates.


29 posted on 04/04/2014 6:28:18 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: cripplecreek
My father, progunner, (I'm his younger daughter) was just saying something the other day to that very nature with one of his customers regarding the situation up in CT and NY.
30 posted on 04/04/2014 6:37:02 PM PDT by progunner (no compromise)
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To: progunner

Sorry bout that, this response was meant for another post.


31 posted on 04/04/2014 6:38:25 PM PDT by progunner (no compromise)
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To: ExCTCitizen

In Washington politics there no longer are any MODERATE DEMOCRATS.

They were removed from the Endangered Species Act to the Endangered Feces Act, and then to the graveyard of political positions.

The FDA is just as crazy as the EPA and Dept. of Interior and the Dept. of Agriculture.

All are run by leftist lunatics and supported by “good Germans”.


32 posted on 04/04/2014 6:51:50 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: nickcarraway
Quit bashing the government.

They're here to HELP. That's why the EPA gave farmers an incentive to plant corn late in 2013, so the late harvest & green, wet corn sucked up most of the storage winter heating propane, forcing the peasants to pay $5-6 a gallon to heat their houses if they ran out.

And that's why the government forced the removal of phosphate from peasant detergent and peasant dish soap, so that nothing would get clean, and you'd have to use twice as much water. They were HELPING.

And that's why they made us adopt CFLs, so we'd fill the landfills with small mercury bomblets, which would NEVER leach into the water table.

And that's why they reduced the amount of water your toilet tank holds, so that you'd use two or three times as much water to remove your waste.

And that's why they forced low sulfur diesel on us, which attracts more water (because of the biodiesel they put in it) and damages more engines (and kills the wicks on kerosene heaters). They were HELPING.

33 posted on 04/04/2014 7:02:00 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: Pollster1
The other half is the massive interference in personal matters and in business matters that are none of the government’s business in any case.

Hey, you ain't got one of them illegal woodstoves, have you?

34 posted on 04/04/2014 7:06:45 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: Balding_Eagle; driftdiver

And speaking of ethanol, what’s your retort to the peasants who had to pay $5-6 a gallon for propane to heat their little peasant hovels this winter?


35 posted on 04/04/2014 7:08:14 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: kiryandil

One of the most feared things in the universe: Government help - making things worse daily while you pay for it.


36 posted on 04/04/2014 7:09:35 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: driftdiver
and uses more energy then it creates.

Although they did not present the evidence because the article was about another subject, recent Successful Farming columns claim otherwise.

37 posted on 04/04/2014 7:14:36 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Want to keep your doctor? Remove your Democrat Senator.)
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To: kiryandil
And speaking of ethanol, what’s your retort to the peasants who had to pay $5-6 a gallon for propane to heat their little peasant hovels this winter?

What are you talking about?

38 posted on 04/04/2014 7:16:12 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Want to keep your doctor? Remove your Democrat Senator.)
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To: Balding_Eagle

Im sure farmers would disagree. This was all covered when they passed that idiotic law. Farmers love it though.


39 posted on 04/04/2014 7:16:39 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Balding_Eagle

It appears as though you are defending ethanol production in this country. Is that true?


40 posted on 04/04/2014 7:17:34 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: DBrow

The Marxists want us to eat no meat or cheese.


41 posted on 04/04/2014 7:18:26 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: driftdiver

It doesn’t matter if anyone disagrees or agrees, scientific facts are just that.


42 posted on 04/04/2014 7:25:38 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Want to keep your doctor? Remove your Democrat Senator.)
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To: kiryandil
I'm defending the right of farmers to grow which ever crop they want too.

In this case corn. As I pointed out up thread, the attacks on ethanol are not only short of scientific facts, many of the 'facts' that are used are nothing more than outright lies.

Sort of like the tactics used by the Global Warming people.

43 posted on 04/04/2014 7:30:04 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Want to keep your doctor? Remove your Democrat Senator.)
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This winter, the EPA got away with sticking it to peasants who heat with propane:

Propane shortage linked to ethanol

"To anyone wondering why there is a shortage of propane and doubling and tripling of the price this year: One reason is the 2007 government mandate on ethanol production.

Farmers planted record acres of corn in the spring of 2013. In fact, they planted corn in places it’s never been planted before. Corn was planted so far north that it didn’t ripen and mature before winter set in.

In a normal year, propane is put into storage in September, October and November in anticipation of the winter heating season. But this year, that propane was used to dry corn that was immature and wet.

You can’t blame farmers for planting more corn to take advantage of the fact that 30 percent of our corn crop is used to make ethanol..."

The EPA has made it profitable for farmers to dry wet, green corn in the early winter with propane energy, in order to produce ethanol energy. Somehow, I doubt the energy trade is even in the slightest.

At least you propane-heating peasants got it up the wazoo dry with the EPA's ethanol rhino horn, and you didn't even know that they were responsible!

BTW - they'll do it again this year, if they're not stopped.

44 posted on 04/04/2014 7:33:25 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: Balding_Eagle
As I pointed out up thread, the attacks on ethanol are not only short of scientific facts, many of the 'facts' that are used are nothing more than outright lies.

What happened this fall & winter with corn production and propane is pretty much a fact.

What's your opinion about that?

BTW - I'm also against burning natural gas in power plants for the most part, like those California whackjobs insist on doing, and using compressed natural gas to power truck fleets.

Natural gas is great for heating and cooking. Don't let crazed whackjobs burn it for their pet Watermelon projects.

45 posted on 04/04/2014 7:39:48 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: nickcarraway
Leave beer alone!

Step away from my pint and no one gets hurt.

46 posted on 04/04/2014 8:06:22 PM PDT by hummingbird (Mark Levin and Article 5. Period.)
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To: nickcarraway
The government says doing this will cut down on the spread of bacteria that can make animals and people sick.

can this same gum'ment give any figures on just how many beer-mad cows are running around? Any at all? Even one?

47 posted on 04/04/2014 10:01:20 PM PDT by blueplum
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To: Balding_Eagle

The science says turning food into fuel is a bad idea. Bad on the food side and bad on the fuel side.

Its politics and out of control environmentalism.


48 posted on 04/05/2014 2:00:43 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: kiryandil
Hey, you ain't got one of them illegal woodstoves, have you?

I do have a flush toilet that actually works - and uses more water than the FedGov authorized 1.6 gallons. I have incandescent light bulbs at 100 watts and more. And, yes, I have a wood stove, plus all sorts of other useful items that some moron in DC thinks he has the right to deny me.

49 posted on 04/05/2014 3:14:15 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: nickcarraway

Follow the money.


50 posted on 04/05/2014 9:00:48 AM PDT by Organic Panic
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