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Ryan: Obamacare Can't Last, 'Will Collapse Under Own Weight'! (Paul Ryan do nothing line)
Newsmax ^ | April 04, 2014

Posted on 04/04/2014 6:43:19 PM PDT by sickoflibs

House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan said he rejects the premise that President Barack Obama’s healthcare law can’t be repealed now that its first class of 7 million enrollees has signed up.

“I don’t think it can last,” Ryan said in an interview with Bloomberg Television to air on “Political Capital with Al Hunt” this weekend.

Ryan this week unveiled a budget plan that seeks to repeal the 2010 law known as Obamacare and would revise the U.S. safety net in an effort to eliminate the deficit in 10 years. The House will vote on the plan next week. House Democrats will release their alternative as soon as Monday, April 7.

The Republican budget proposal will serve as a contrast with Democrats’ fiscal priorities before the U.S. midterm election on Nov. 4. Senate Democratic leaders have said they plan to tie House members vying for Senate seats in Colorado, Montana and Louisiana to Ryan’s proposal.

“This is the fourth year we’ve passed a budget like this, fourth year we’ve said here’s how we plan on balancing the budget and paying off the debt,” Ryan said.

Ryan and Senate Budget Committee Chairman Patty Murray agreed in December on a two-year budget deal that sets top-line spending at $1.014 trillion for the 2015 fiscal year that starts Oct. 1. As such, Republicans don’t have to prepare a budget, Ryan said, though “we think we should say what we believe in if we don’t like the direction the country’s headed.”

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Who listens to this guy(besides MSNBC) ???


1 posted on 04/04/2014 6:43:20 PM PDT by sickoflibs
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To: sickoflibs

How long did the USSR last again?


2 posted on 04/04/2014 6:44:29 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Impy; BillyBoy; NFHale; AuH2ORepublican; fieldmarshaldj; GOPsterinMA

‘Paul Ryan just keeps this up’ ping!


3 posted on 04/04/2014 6:44:31 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama : 'You can keep your doctor if you want. I never tell a lie ')
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To: sickoflibs

Yeah, and we’ll have peace in our time.


4 posted on 04/04/2014 6:45:46 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: sickoflibs
In the meantime Mr. Ryan, YOU, John Boehner and the rest of the Republicans did NOTHING to stop funding for the Obamacare monstrosity, and by the time it collapses under its own weight, how many HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS of TAXPAYER DOLLARS will have been wasted?

And you, Mr. Ryan don't have a problem with wasting HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS of TAXPAYER DOLLARS?

A perfect illustration of why Paul Ryan is PART OF THE PROBLEM in Washington DC and must go.

5 posted on 04/04/2014 6:46:48 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: sickoflibs

“Passing Amnesty will kill 0bamaCare.” - P. Ryan....


6 posted on 04/04/2014 6:48:46 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: sickoflibs

We should take a lesson from Social Security. Just because it’s an idiotic and unsustainable idea doesn’t mean they won’t prop it up until it becomes such a big problem that it causes our economic demise. Good Lord, we need to scrap this thing.


7 posted on 04/04/2014 6:49:02 PM PDT by youngidiot (God help us.)
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To: GeronL
RE::”How long did the USSR last again?”

Good point, maybe 70 years.

So along that path of reason, maybe in 40 years from now the US will put up a Berlin wall to keep the healthy from fleeing Obamacare.

8 posted on 04/04/2014 6:49:21 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama : 'You can keep your doctor if you want. I never tell a lie ')
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To: sickoflibs
(Title ):" Ryan: Obamacare Can't Last, 'Will Collapse Under Own Weight'! (Paul Ryan do nothing line)"

The country can't wait that long !
We are slipping into bankruptcy, and soon won't be able to afford the interest, much less pay back the principle.

9 posted on 04/04/2014 6:50:30 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: Jim Robinson
RE :”Yeah, and we’ll have peace in our time”

It only took 70 years for the USSR to collapse.

10 posted on 04/04/2014 6:50:44 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama : 'You can keep your doctor if you want. I never tell a lie ')
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To: sickoflibs

Paul, didn’t you get the message from Nancy? We are pivoting to jobs now. The argument about Democratcare is over /sarcasm.


11 posted on 04/04/2014 6:51:34 PM PDT by DManA
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To: sickoflibs

Hell yes, it should be repealed.


12 posted on 04/04/2014 6:53:17 PM PDT by ravenwolf
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To: usconservative
usconservative:" A perfect illustration of why Paul Ryan is PART OF THE PROBLEM in Washington DC and must go"

This needs repeating !
A perfect illustration of why Paul Ryan is PART OF THE PROBLEM in Washington DC and must go"

13 posted on 04/04/2014 6:53:33 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: youngidiot
RE:”We should take a lesson from Social Security. Just because it’s an idiotic and unsustainable idea doesn’t mean they won’t prop it up until it becomes such a big problem that it causes our economic demise. Good Lord, we need to scrap this thing.”

SS is one hell of a popular program (as Dems gloat), but sending out $$$ to lots and lots of people isn't that complicated and is going to be popular.

Its popular with Republicans.

14 posted on 04/04/2014 6:55:29 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama : 'You can keep your doctor if you want. I never tell a lie ')
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To: sickoflibs

Why isn’t the Congress concerned about the missing
six billion dollars at the State department?


15 posted on 04/04/2014 6:56:13 PM PDT by StormEye
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To: youngidiot

Bingo.


16 posted on 04/04/2014 6:56:47 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: sickoflibs

He doesn’t think anyone listens to him. That’s why his eyebrows are always raised. “Did you hear me?”


17 posted on 04/04/2014 6:57:59 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: StormEye
RE :”Why isn’t the Congress concerned about the missing
six billion dollars at the State department?”

????, good question.

Because they stole more than that themselves ???

18 posted on 04/04/2014 6:58:15 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama : 'You can keep your doctor if you want. I never tell a lie ')
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To: sickoflibs

‘Will Collapse Under Own Weight’!

It will not collapse. It will suck resources and grow until we collapse under its weight, unless it is stopped.


19 posted on 04/04/2014 7:03:03 PM PDT by Gil4 (And the trees are all kept equal by hatchet, ax and saw)
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To: sickoflibs

Where a failed program will die quickly and be abandoned in the private sector, a bad government program will be kept on life support for eternity.


20 posted on 04/04/2014 7:03:57 PM PDT by windsorknot
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To: VerySadAmerican; usconservative; Impy; BillyBoy; NFHale; AuH2ORepublican; fieldmarshaldj; ...
Ryan noise : “This is the fourth year we’ve passed a budget like this, fourth year we’ve said here’s how we plan on balancing the budget and paying off the debt,” Ryan said. “

Its not even a budget, its a nonbinding 10 year resolution that is meaningless.

And he brags that he passed it 4X, once per year ...????

This guy assures me that the R party is doomed long term. Our best and brightest....

21 posted on 04/04/2014 7:06:48 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama : 'You can keep your doctor if you want. I never tell a lie ')
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To: sickoflibs

He is perfectly happy and satisfied with this I think


22 posted on 04/04/2014 7:09:12 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: sickoflibs

"I am EXEMPT and will have prosperity.
The rest of you? Not so much."

23 posted on 04/04/2014 7:10:44 PM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: GeronL

I love your USSR point, perfect response


24 posted on 04/04/2014 7:12:16 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama : 'You can keep your doctor if you want. I never tell a lie ')
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To: sickoflibs

I predict on this path with the republican quislings we have in office we will be in CWII in 2 years or less.


25 posted on 04/04/2014 7:14:22 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: sickoflibs; VerySadAmerican; Impy; BillyBoy; NFHale; AuH2ORepublican; fieldmarshaldj
REALITY: Any Budget that goes beyond 2 years is a JOKE.

One Congress cannot bind future Congress' on any budget agreement, period.

Paul Ryan must think we're all too stupid to know better.

26 posted on 04/04/2014 7:21:51 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: GeronL; usconservative; Impy; AuH2ORepublican; fieldmarshaldj; BillyBoy; NFHale; GOPsterinMA; ...
RE :”He is perfectly happy and satisfied with this I think”

Paul Ryan is one of my pet peeves because I was alone here three years ago in 2011 calling him out and everyone here either thought I was DU or just nuts when I did it.

Paul Ryan was created by GOPe to be their staged conservative hero, completely controlled by the party but portrayed as the conservative Lionheart.

Rush, Levin, Hannity and even Palin all joined in praising his 10 medicare reform scam in his phony nonbinding 10 year budget resolutions.

They told us what to say:
(’He balances the budget in only 10 years and its a lie that ANYONE loses any medicare benefits to do it’)

But now its cool to diss it. They all do now.

27 posted on 04/04/2014 7:24:32 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama : 'You can keep your doctor if you want. I never tell a lie ')
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To: sickoflibs

Bump


28 posted on 04/04/2014 7:26:29 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: usconservative; Gilbo_3
RE :”REALITY: Any Budget that goes beyond 2 years is a JOKE.
One Congress cannot bind future Congress’ on any budget agreement, period.
Paul Ryan must think we're all too stupid to know better.”

There not budgets, they are 10 year symbolic nonbinding resolutions never meant to see law, and never will.

All four of them

He was asked about this scam a year or two ago and he replied :”Its a moral document”

Its a con.

29 posted on 04/04/2014 7:28:16 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama : 'You can keep your doctor if you want. I never tell a lie ')
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To: sickoflibs

I don’t know if you were alone, but I’m pretty sure when these ridiculous proposals of cutting x amount from the budget over a period of a decade drew criticisms from me. We need a Balanced Budget Amendment now.


30 posted on 04/04/2014 7:37:46 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: sickoflibs

ubamacare will “collapse under its own weight” in much the same way that cancer does.


31 posted on 04/04/2014 7:39:33 PM PDT by rhinohunter (Freepers aren't booing -- they're shouting "Cruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuz")
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To: sickoflibs

And what exactly does collapsing under its own weight look like, Paul?

Is it going to take our economy with it, Paul?

Is it going to cause people who are now forced to depend on to die because they can’t get treatment, Paul?

Are you such a sniveling, little chickenshit that you are willing to take such risks in order to avoid getting your hands dirty, Paul?

You are a disgusting human being, Paul, and I want you to know that my vote for you is the vote that I regret most in my life.

I regret it even more than my vote for John Stinking Traitor McCain, Paul.

*spits on the ground in utter disgust*


32 posted on 04/04/2014 7:39:42 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: GeronL; Gilbo_3; Impy; NFHale; fieldmarshaldj; GOPsterinMA
Thanks, forgive my ranting on this.

Back in Spring 2011 Ryan comes out with his medicare reform plan that says we will restore funding to medicare now(more $$$), but 10 years from now everyone who retires after that date will get a government issued discount coupon to give to doctor, hospital or cancer treatment center (10 years from passage).

Those who retired even the day before that day 10 year from now get on the full $$$ gravy train, current medicare benefits, they won the age lottery..

Ryan: 'We have to because its going broke and it wont be there in 10 years unless we don't get rid of it in exactly 10 years for new people retiring.

Immediately I started posting 'wtf is this? No one will buy this sh.t.'

And they didn't. It was stupid.

But we were supposed to repeat it like it made sense.

33 posted on 04/04/2014 7:44:26 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama : 'You can keep your doctor if you want. I never tell a lie ')
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To: chris37

Democrats have the votes to keep Obamacare... they created it with NOT ONE Republican vote.

What do you expect us to do?

If we vote democrats OUT OF OFFICE -then we can make changes... until then there’s nothing we can do except provide cover for democrats...


34 posted on 04/04/2014 7:44:30 PM PDT by GOPJ (For your psycho gunman, a military base is basically a grade-school in uniform. - Mark Steyn)
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To: usconservative

He has a right to think there are a lot of stupid people out here. Lots of us voted for him.


35 posted on 04/04/2014 8:03:05 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: GeronL; Gilbo_3; Impy; NFHale; fieldmarshaldj; GOPsterinMA
It takes work to find these but here is one I like.

25 Posted on ‎6‎/‎8‎/‎2011‎ ‎9‎:‎32‎:‎56‎ ‎PM by sickoflibs

I was pointing out that this scam wouldn't sell to Americans and that a real plan would have to start now not in 10 years.

36 posted on 04/04/2014 8:07:31 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama : 'You can keep your doctor if you want. I never tell a lie ')
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To: sickoflibs

And Ryan’s budget is a joke. Out of control spending now, with the
promise of cuts 10 years down the road. What a farce.


37 posted on 04/04/2014 8:35:39 PM PDT by tennmountainman (Just Say No To Obamacare)
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To: GeronL

As long as we’ve got a Federal Reserve bank that can buy up government debt at will, and manipulate interest rates to zero - Obamacare will never collapse, no matter how expensive it is.

The US government runs scores of social-engineering, central-planning projects - what’s one more?


38 posted on 04/04/2014 9:08:05 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: tennmountainman
RE :”And Ryan’s budget is a joke. Out of control spending now, with the
promise of cuts 10 years down the road. What a farce.”

Yep, but how come so many here only caught in to that so recently??

See #27

39 posted on 04/04/2014 9:18:33 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama : 'You can keep your doctor if you want. I never tell a lie ')
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To: sickoflibs

I don’t understand your comment. This is part of the OP: “Ryan this week unveiled a budget plan that seeks to repeal the 2010 law known as Obamacare.”

So, you’re in favor of *keeping* Obamacare?


40 posted on 04/04/2014 9:35:19 PM PDT by Theo (May Christ be exalted above all.)
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RE :”I don’t understand your comment. This is part of the OP: “Ryan this week unveiled a budget plan that seeks to repeal the 2010 law known as Obamacare.” So, you’re in favor of *keeping* Obamacare?”

Exhibit A, nuff said ??

Still 2011???

41 posted on 04/04/2014 9:50:03 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama : 'You can keep your doctor if you want. I never tell a lie ')
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To: Theo
RE “Ryan this week unveiled a budget plan that seeks to repeal the 2010 law known as Obamacare.”

FUPR

Hows that for OBAMA-care??

42 posted on 04/04/2014 9:52:23 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama : 'You can keep your doctor if you want. I never tell a lie ')
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To: PGR88

Exactly


43 posted on 04/04/2014 10:45:16 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: GOPJ

If we vote democrats out, republicans still aren’t going to do a single thing about it.

They want it. They are liars and game players.

Their 40 something votes to repeal that meant absolutely nothing is the only ting they will do, and they are doing it to fool people who vote for them, and it works.

The GOP is the enemy, same as democrats.

They are the government. Same beast, different head.


44 posted on 04/04/2014 11:13:13 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: sickoflibs; GeronL; usconservative; Impy; AuH2ORepublican; fieldmarshaldj; BillyBoy; NFHale; ...
Why should struggling Americans (thrown out of affordable healthcare by lock-
stepping Demoncrats) have to endure the agony AND foot the expense of repeal?

===============================================

There's more ways than one to obliterate the O/Care atrocity. ......This needs to go viral.

EXHIBIT ONE We cannot overlook the distinct possibility that forcing the "magic number" caused the vote-crazed, desperate Obamatons to phony up the O/Care enrollment list:

-----falsifying official govt documents is a felony,

-----forgery could be involved,

----falsified documents sent over the internet means criminal wire fraud could be in the mix.

============================================================

EXHIBIT TWO Govt factotums "pencil-whipping" official documents should be considered:

-----1. To approve a document without actually knowing or reviewing what it is that is being approved.

----- 2. To complete a form, record, or document without having performed the implied work or without supporting data or evidence.

USAGE "Knowing the auditors were coming in just a week, we chose to pencil whip the quarterly inventory forms for the last year." (This term is popular among military personnel and auditors.)

=================================================

EXHIBIT THREE The penalty for falsifying government documents is outlined in the Crimes Act of 1958.

Many different types of acts can be considered as falsifying a document, including:
◾Altering or misrepresenting factual information such as prices or monetary amounts
◾Stating false information when requested to provide truthful statements
◾Forging a signature
◾Using official letterheads without authorization
◾Concealing assets or property WRT obtaining federal/state grants, and/or subsidies
◾Knowingly using or distributing a fake document

A person can only be held criminally liable if they are deliberately acting with the intention of deceiving or defrauding another party. /

Falsifying documents is a very serious offense and is generally classified as a felony. This means that a person charged with falsifying documents may be subject to the following legal penalties:
◾Having to pay a monetary fine
◾Incarceration in a prison facility

Depending on the gravity of the offense, as well as individual state laws, falsifying documents can result in a prison sentence of 5-10 years. Also, if government documents or authorities were involved, the legal penalties may be more severe. ..... legal penalties may increase with repeat offenses.

45 posted on 04/05/2014 4:01:20 AM PDT by Liz
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To: Liz
If only the Demodummies and repubs could put their heads together to come up with something that they BOTH agree would work, this country could save BILLIONS, no TRILLIONS of dollars. Instead, one group comes up with a proposal that WOULD work and the other side comes up with a way to criticize it, mistakenly thinking their proposal would be better. Why do we tolerate these idiots?
46 posted on 04/05/2014 5:25:04 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: sickoflibs

Hey Ryno just shut the f%^k up and go away.


47 posted on 04/05/2014 6:01:11 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: sickoflibs

“Exhibit A”? Yes, Ryan’s actions in this regard — attempting to repeal Obamacare — should be Exhibit A.

Or were you trying to be an ass to a fellow FReeper, one whose been FReeping 7 years longer than you?


48 posted on 04/05/2014 6:30:53 AM PDT by Theo (May Christ be exalted above all.)
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To: chris37

You’re wrong. We’re not all the same.


49 posted on 04/05/2014 6:39:34 AM PDT by GOPJ (For your psycho gunman, a military base is basically a grade-school in uniform. - Mark Steyn)
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To: Liz

I’m sure Eric Holder will get right on that.

I’m sorry to sound so skeptical, but your points only matter if we have a Justice Dept that is concerned with justice.


50 posted on 04/05/2014 6:40:54 AM PDT by Gil4 (And the trees are all kept equal by hatchet, ax and saw)
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