Skip to comments.Ryan: Obamacare Can't Last, 'Will Collapse Under Own Weight'! (Paul Ryan do nothing line)
Posted on 04/04/2014 6:43:19 PM PDT by sickoflibs
House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan said he rejects the premise that President Barack Obamas healthcare law cant be repealed now that its first class of 7 million enrollees has signed up.
I dont think it can last, Ryan said in an interview with Bloomberg Television to air on Political Capital with Al Hunt this weekend.
Ryan this week unveiled a budget plan that seeks to repeal the 2010 law known as Obamacare and would revise the U.S. safety net in an effort to eliminate the deficit in 10 years. The House will vote on the plan next week. House Democrats will release their alternative as soon as Monday, April 7.
The Republican budget proposal will serve as a contrast with Democrats fiscal priorities before the U.S. midterm election on Nov. 4. Senate Democratic leaders have said they plan to tie House members vying for Senate seats in Colorado, Montana and Louisiana to Ryans proposal.
This is the fourth year weve passed a budget like this, fourth year weve said heres how we plan on balancing the budget and paying off the debt, Ryan said.
Ryan and Senate Budget Committee Chairman Patty Murray agreed in December on a two-year budget deal that sets top-line spending at $1.014 trillion for the 2015 fiscal year that starts Oct. 1. As such, Republicans dont have to prepare a budget, Ryan said, though we think we should say what we believe in if we dont like the direction the countrys headed.
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How long did the USSR last again?
‘Paul Ryan just keeps this up’ ping!
Yeah, and we’ll have peace in our time.
And you, Mr. Ryan don't have a problem with wasting HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS of TAXPAYER DOLLARS?
A perfect illustration of why Paul Ryan is PART OF THE PROBLEM in Washington DC and must go.
“Passing Amnesty will kill 0bamaCare.” - P. Ryan....
We should take a lesson from Social Security. Just because it’s an idiotic and unsustainable idea doesn’t mean they won’t prop it up until it becomes such a big problem that it causes our economic demise. Good Lord, we need to scrap this thing.
Good point, maybe 70 years.
So along that path of reason, maybe in 40 years from now the US will put up a Berlin wall to keep the healthy from fleeing Obamacare.
The country can't wait that long !
We are slipping into bankruptcy, and soon won't be able to afford the interest, much less pay back the principle.
It only took 70 years for the USSR to collapse.
Paul, didn’t you get the message from Nancy? We are pivoting to jobs now. The argument about Democratcare is over /sarcasm.
Hell yes, it should be repealed.
This needs repeating !
A perfect illustration of why Paul Ryan is PART OF THE PROBLEM in Washington DC and must go"
SS is one hell of a popular program (as Dems gloat), but sending out $$$ to lots and lots of people isn't that complicated and is going to be popular.
Its popular with Republicans.
Why isn’t the Congress concerned about the missing
six billion dollars at the State department?
He doesn’t think anyone listens to him. That’s why his eyebrows are always raised. “Did you hear me?”
????, good question.
Because they stole more than that themselves ???
‘Will Collapse Under Own Weight’!
It will not collapse. It will suck resources and grow until we collapse under its weight, unless it is stopped.
Where a failed program will die quickly and be abandoned in the private sector, a bad government program will be kept on life support for eternity.
Its not even a budget, its a nonbinding 10 year resolution that is meaningless.
And he brags that he passed it 4X, once per year ...????
This guy assures me that the R party is doomed long term. Our best and brightest....
He is perfectly happy and satisfied with this I think
"I am EXEMPT and will have prosperity.
The rest of you? Not so much."
I love your USSR point, perfect response
I predict on this path with the republican quislings we have in office we will be in CWII in 2 years or less.
One Congress cannot bind future Congress' on any budget agreement, period.
Paul Ryan must think we're all too stupid to know better.
Paul Ryan is one of my pet peeves because I was alone here three years ago in 2011 calling him out and everyone here either thought I was DU or just nuts when I did it.
Paul Ryan was created by GOPe to be their staged conservative hero, completely controlled by the party but portrayed as the conservative Lionheart.
Rush, Levin, Hannity and even Palin all joined in praising his 10 medicare reform scam in his phony nonbinding 10 year budget resolutions.
They told us what to say:
(’He balances the budget in only 10 years and its a lie that ANYONE loses any medicare benefits to do it’)
But now its cool to diss it. They all do now.
There not budgets, they are 10 year symbolic nonbinding resolutions never meant to see law, and never will.
All four of them
He was asked about this scam a year or two ago and he replied :”Its a moral document”
Its a con.
I don’t know if you were alone, but I’m pretty sure when these ridiculous proposals of cutting x amount from the budget over a period of a decade drew criticisms from me. We need a Balanced Budget Amendment now.
ubamacare will “collapse under its own weight” in much the same way that cancer does.
And what exactly does collapsing under its own weight look like, Paul?
Is it going to take our economy with it, Paul?
Is it going to cause people who are now forced to depend on to die because they can’t get treatment, Paul?
Are you such a sniveling, little chickenshit that you are willing to take such risks in order to avoid getting your hands dirty, Paul?
You are a disgusting human being, Paul, and I want you to know that my vote for you is the vote that I regret most in my life.
I regret it even more than my vote for John Stinking Traitor McCain, Paul.
*spits on the ground in utter disgust*
Back in Spring 2011 Ryan comes out with his medicare reform plan that says we will restore funding to medicare now(more $$$), but 10 years from now everyone who retires after that date will get a government issued discount coupon to give to doctor, hospital or cancer treatment center (10 years from passage).
Those who retired even the day before that day 10 year from now get on the full $$$ gravy train, current medicare benefits, they won the age lottery..
Ryan: 'We have to because its going broke and it wont be there in 10 years unless we don't get rid of it in exactly 10 years for new people retiring.
Immediately I started posting 'wtf is this? No one will buy this sh.t.'
And they didn't. It was stupid.
But we were supposed to repeat it like it made sense.
Democrats have the votes to keep Obamacare... they created it with NOT ONE Republican vote.
What do you expect us to do?
If we vote democrats OUT OF OFFICE -then we can make changes... until then there’s nothing we can do except provide cover for democrats...
He has a right to think there are a lot of stupid people out here. Lots of us voted for him.
25 Posted on 6/8/2011 9:32:56 PM by sickoflibs
I was pointing out that this scam wouldn't sell to Americans and that a real plan would have to start now not in 10 years.
And Ryan’s budget is a joke. Out of control spending now, with the
promise of cuts 10 years down the road. What a farce.
As long as we’ve got a Federal Reserve bank that can buy up government debt at will, and manipulate interest rates to zero - Obamacare will never collapse, no matter how expensive it is.
The US government runs scores of social-engineering, central-planning projects - what’s one more?
Yep, but how come so many here only caught in to that so recently??
I don’t understand your comment. This is part of the OP: “Ryan this week unveiled a budget plan that seeks to repeal the 2010 law known as Obamacare.”
So, you’re in favor of *keeping* Obamacare?
Exhibit A, nuff said ??
Hows that for OBAMA-care??
If we vote democrats out, republicans still aren’t going to do a single thing about it.
They want it. They are liars and game players.
Their 40 something votes to repeal that meant absolutely nothing is the only ting they will do, and they are doing it to fool people who vote for them, and it works.
The GOP is the enemy, same as democrats.
They are the government. Same beast, different head.
There's more ways than one to obliterate the O/Care atrocity. ......This needs to go viral.
EXHIBIT ONE We cannot overlook the distinct possibility that forcing the "magic number" caused the vote-crazed, desperate Obamatons to phony up the O/Care enrollment list:
-----falsifying official govt documents is a felony,
-----forgery could be involved,
----falsified documents sent over the internet means criminal wire fraud could be in the mix.
EXHIBIT TWO Govt factotums "pencil-whipping" official documents should be considered:
-----1. To approve a document without actually knowing or reviewing what it is that is being approved.
----- 2. To complete a form, record, or document without having performed the implied work or without supporting data or evidence.
USAGE "Knowing the auditors were coming in just a week, we chose to pencil whip the quarterly inventory forms for the last year." (This term is popular among military personnel and auditors.)
EXHIBIT THREE The penalty for falsifying government documents is outlined in the Crimes Act of 1958.
Many different types of acts can be considered as falsifying a document, including:
◾Altering or misrepresenting factual information such as prices or monetary amounts
◾Stating false information when requested to provide truthful statements
◾Forging a signature
◾Using official letterheads without authorization
◾Concealing assets or property WRT obtaining federal/state grants, and/or subsidies
◾Knowingly using or distributing a fake document
A person can only be held criminally liable if they are deliberately acting with the intention of deceiving or defrauding another party. /
Falsifying documents is a very serious offense and is generally classified as a felony. This means that a person charged with falsifying documents may be subject to the following legal penalties:
◾Having to pay a monetary fine
◾Incarceration in a prison facility
Depending on the gravity of the offense, as well as individual state laws, falsifying documents can result in a prison sentence of 5-10 years. Also, if government documents or authorities were involved, the legal penalties may be more severe. ..... legal penalties may increase with repeat offenses.
Hey Ryno just shut the f%^k up and go away.
“Exhibit A”? Yes, Ryan’s actions in this regard — attempting to repeal Obamacare — should be Exhibit A.
Or were you trying to be an ass to a fellow FReeper, one whose been FReeping 7 years longer than you?
You’re wrong. We’re not all the same.
I’m sure Eric Holder will get right on that.
I’m sorry to sound so skeptical, but your points only matter if we have a Justice Dept that is concerned with justice.
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