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Congressman Upset His $174,000 Annual Salary Not Enough To Live 'Decently' In D.C.
Business Insider ^ | 04/04/2014 | Paul Szoldra

Posted on 04/04/2014 7:25:31 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

n an interview published Thursday in Roll Call, Rep. Jim Moran (D-Va.) lamented that his $174,000 annual salary was not enough to live "decently" in Washington, D.C. "I think the American people should know that the members of Congress are underpaid," Moran said. "I understand that it’s widely felt that they underperform, but the fact is that this is the board of directors for the largest economic entity in the world."

The remarks came as the House begins markup on a bill to fund all legislators' salaries. Moran is planning to introduce an amendment that would offer lawmakers a per diem, USA Today reports.

Moran stated that some members actually sleep in their offices while in session. But since his district is just across the river in northern Virginia, he doesn't have to maintain two homes (or a small apartment) like other members, as the Washington Post notes.

“Our pay has been frozen for three years and we’re planning on freezing it a fourth year," Moran told Roll Call. "

(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...


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1 posted on 04/04/2014 7:25:31 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Start spending all of it to live like so many of the rest of us instead of socking half of it away.


2 posted on 04/04/2014 7:27:25 PM PDT by luvbach1 (We are finished)
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To: SeekAndFind

waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

if he doesn’t like it, get a different job


3 posted on 04/04/2014 7:28:09 PM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: SeekAndFind

Good point.

Its expensive to live in Washington and $174,000 doesn’t go very far. You have to maintain two offices, pay your staff and have two places to live.

Unless you’re independently wealthy, good luck with life as a congresscritter.


4 posted on 04/04/2014 7:28:30 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: SeekAndFind

It is true that it is not that much.

But do they not have expense accounts beyond salary?


5 posted on 04/04/2014 7:28:41 PM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: SeekAndFind
"I think the American people should know that the members of Congress are underpaid," Moran said.

You are over paid, by about $174k.

6 posted on 04/04/2014 7:29:14 PM PDT by matt04
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To: SeekAndFind

What we really need is a part time Congress. Send the bastards home and let them come back for about a week twice a year. It sure would make America “a better place.” Maybe if the piggies had to get a real job when they are not in the District of Corruption, they wouldn’t get so excited about raising taxes all of the time.


7 posted on 04/04/2014 7:29:24 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (We are human beings. The debate, ANY DEBATE, is NEVER OVER!)
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To: SeekAndFind

STFU and do a little more insider trading a$$hat


8 posted on 04/04/2014 7:30:18 PM PDT by bigheadfred
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To: ifinnegan

“But do they not have expense accounts beyond salary?”

Don’t they get to keep all their extra campaign cash when they retire?


9 posted on 04/04/2014 7:31:07 PM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord.)
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To: SeekAndFind

So—go find a job that pays better, and get the hell out of my life!

Idiot!!!


10 posted on 04/04/2014 7:31:38 PM PDT by basil (2ASisters.org)
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To: SeekAndFind

This guy amassed a fortune being broke ??


11 posted on 04/04/2014 7:32:05 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: ifinnegan
But do they not have expense accounts beyond salary?

They do, but the reason they all retire as multimillionaires is not their salary, nor their expense accounts.

It's the bribes.

12 posted on 04/04/2014 7:32:08 PM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise. H)
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To: goldstategop

He is worth 13 million -all of it while in Congress


13 posted on 04/04/2014 7:32:52 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: SeekAndFind

If all he got was his basic salary I might, just might have some sympathy. However, with all the perks, benefits and bribes, I fart in his general direction (to paraphrase an expression from one of my favorite movies).


14 posted on 04/04/2014 7:33:40 PM PDT by doc1019
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To: goldstategop

The cost of maintaining two offices and 2 staffs is not paid out of the Congressmen’s or Senators’ salaries. So is most travel.

They often DO have to maintain 2 distant residences, but often those who don’t bring their families to DC share an apt. Some DO live in their offices.


15 posted on 04/04/2014 7:33:50 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: SeekAndFind

Ok...someone should post the story about how Congress critters get wealthy once they get to DC


16 posted on 04/04/2014 7:34:47 PM PDT by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods.)
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To: SeekAndFind

HOW ABOUT BALANCING THE BUDGET OF THIS COUNTRY FIRST BUDDY...WE CAN’T AFFORD TO GIVE YOUR OR ANY OTHER GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEE A PAY RAISE.


17 posted on 04/04/2014 7:35:28 PM PDT by Nextrush (AFFORDABLE CARE ACT=HEALTHCARE INDUSTRY BAILOUT ACT)
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To: SeekAndFind

No analysis of Jim Moran’s financial ability to live on $174K in the DC area is complete without looking at his Murphy’s of Alexandria bar tab ...


18 posted on 04/04/2014 7:37:16 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: SeekAndFind

Live within your means. It can be done. These Congress critters want to wrap themselves in material things befitting a king, so large are their egos. A big fancy luxury car, servants, huge party house, etc. In the days of Lincoln, the servants of the people lived responsibly. $174K is plenty, particularly since they also get separate money for staff and expenses, as well as extra freebies at taxpayer expense. Sickening! Taxpayers are getting reamed.


19 posted on 04/04/2014 7:38:13 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: SeekAndFind

How does he spend kickbacks and bribes?


20 posted on 04/04/2014 7:38:46 PM PDT by umgud
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To: SeekAndFind
From a chart available from the Social Security Administration website, Moran's salary puts him in the top 2% of wage earners:

Distribution of wage earners by level of net compensation
  Wage earners Net compensation
Net compensation interval Number Cumulative
number
Percent
of total
Aggregate amount Average amount
$0.01 — 4,999.99 23,303,064 23,303,064 15.16808 $47,183,753,407.04 $2,024.79
5,000.00 — 9,999.99 13,839,616 37,142,680 24.17635 102,500,638,297.93 7,406.32
10,000.00 — 14,999.99 12,312,564 49,455,244 32.19066 153,421,129,619.73 12,460.53
15,000.00 — 19,999.99 11,420,589 60,875,833 39.62437 199,398,369,215.82 17,459.55
20,000.00 — 24,999.99 10,798,184 71,674,017 46.65296 242,604,011,694.86 22,467.11
25,000.00 — 29,999.99 10,017,271 81,691,288 53.17325 275,019,343,966.28 27,454.52
30,000.00 — 34,999.99 9,282,086 90,973,374 59.21501 301,162,172,349.52 32,445.53
35,000.00 — 39,999.99 8,317,471 99,290,845 64.62889 311,393,440,479.48 37,438.48
40,000.00 — 44,999.99 7,261,520 106,552,365 69.35545 308,087,495,327.81 42,427.41
45,000.00 — 49,999.99 6,262,046 112,814,411 73.43145 297,046,618,079.65 47,436.03
50,000.00 — 54,999.99 5,437,201 118,251,612 76.97055 285,000,166,908.01 52,416.71
55,000.00 — 59,999.99 4,568,352 122,819,964 79.94411 262,359,915,949.22 57,429.88
60,000.00 — 64,999.99 3,932,564 126,752,528 82.50383 245,421,183,211.26 62,407.42
65,000.00 — 69,999.99 3,331,743 130,084,271 84.67248 224,634,035,978.54 67,422.38
70,000.00 — 74,999.99 2,872,834 132,957,105 86.54242 208,064,761,906.17 72,424.92
75,000.00 — 79,999.99 2,473,508 135,430,613 88.15244 191,516,039,796.28 77,426.89
80,000.00 — 84,999.99 2,097,234 137,527,847 89.51754 172,870,543,883.48 82,427.88
85,000.00 — 89,999.99 1,790,548 139,318,395 90.68302 156,537,324,612.08 87,424.25
90,000.00 — 94,999.99 1,544,850 140,863,245 91.68857 142,776,231,315.99 92,420.77
95,000.00 — 99,999.99 1,338,847 142,202,092 92.56003 130,454,386,174.71 97,437.86
100,000.00 — 104,999.99 1,171,733 143,373,825 93.32272 119,999,937,569.68 102,412.36
105,000.00 — 109,999.99 994,423 144,368,248 93.96999 106,838,496,790.27 107,437.68
110,000.00 — 114,999.99 873,171 145,241,419 94.53834 98,165,459,835.55 112,424.10
115,000.00 — 119,999.99 763,062 146,004,481 95.03502 89,614,007,707.54 117,440.01
120,000.00 — 124,999.99 682,898 146,687,379 95.47952 83,595,323,916.05 122,412.61
125,000.00 — 129,999.99 592,056 147,279,435 95.86490 75,443,210,201.19 127,425.80
130,000.00 — 134,999.99 524,661 147,804,096 96.20640 69,469,980,977.22 132,409.27
135,000.00 — 139,999.99 457,040 148,261,136 96.50389 62,814,075,394.80 137,436.71
140,000.00 — 144,999.99 406,767 148,667,903 96.76866 57,942,508,918.79 142,446.43
145,000.00 — 149,999.99 366,387 149,034,290 97.00714 54,028,568,606.42 147,463.12
150,000.00 — 154,999.99 334,544 149,368,834 97.22490 50,980,836,341.18 152,389.03
155,000.00 — 159,999.99 289,242 149,658,076 97.41316 45,533,883,998.04 157,424.87
160,000.00 — 164,999.99 254,482 149,912,558 97.57881 41,334,132,311.83 162,424.58
165,000.00 — 169,999.99 228,916 150,141,474 97.72781 38,330,391,364.45 167,443.04
170,000.00 — 174,999.99 205,305 150,346,779 97.86145 35,404,476,536.04 172,448.19
175,000.00 — 179,999.99 187,519 150,534,298 97.98350 33,271,769,049.44 177,431.46
180,000.00 — 184,999.99 172,973 150,707,271 98.09609 31,549,655,376.24 182,396.42
185,000.00 — 189,999.99 152,840 150,860,111 98.19558 28,649,912,185.05 187,450.35
190,000.00 — 194,999.99 141,392 151,001,503 98.28761 27,211,154,312.32 192,451.87
195,000.00 — 199,999.99 132,632 151,134,135 98.37394 26,190,609,342.00 197,468.25
200,000.00 — 249,999.99 889,250 152,023,385 98.95276 197,428,650,390.97 222,017.04
250,000.00 — 299,999.99 481,491 152,504,876 99.26616 131,099,976,147.45 272,279.18
300,000.00 — 349,999.99 288,002 152,792,878 99.45362 92,998,527,035.45 322,909.31
350,000.00 — 399,999.99 188,850 152,981,728 99.57655 70,493,610,753.02 373,278.32
400,000.00 — 449,999.99 131,391 153,113,119 99.66207 55,633,820,317.14 423,421.85
450,000.00 — 499,999.99 94,663 153,207,782 99.72369 44,855,858,825.15 473,847.85
500,000.00 — 999,999.99 305,108 153,512,890 99.92228 203,304,014,055.67 666,334.59
1,000,000.00 — 1,499,999.99 59,767 153,572,657 99.96118 71,691,398,838.14 1,199,514.76
1,500,000.00 — 1,999,999.99 21,919 153,594,576 99.97545 37,655,292,524.30 1,717,929.31
2,000,000.00 — 2,499,999.99 10,981 153,605,557 99.98260 24,423,801,656.70 2,224,187.38
2,500,000.00 — 2,999,999.99 6,569 153,612,126 99.98688 17,941,046,566.02 2,731,168.60
3,000,000.00 — 3,499,999.99 4,401 153,616,527 99.98974 14,219,111,245.40 3,230,881.90
3,500,000.00 — 3,999,999.99 2,951 153,619,478 99.99166 11,015,715,508.28 3,732,875.47
4,000,000.00 — 4,499,999.99 2,176 153,621,654 99.99308 9,207,611,931.02 4,231,439.31
4,500,000.00 — 4,999,999.99 1,654 153,623,308 99.99415 7,835,992,842.95 4,737,601.48
5,000,000.00 — 9,999,999.99 6,067 153,629,375 99.99810 41,153,891,735.77 6,783,235.82
10,000,000.00 — 19,999,999.99 2,021 153,631,396 99.99942 27,309,707,840.18 13,512,967.76
20,000,000.00 — 49,999,999.99 728 153,632,124 99.99989 20,832,426,527.70 28,615,970.51
50,000,000.00 and over 166 153,632,290 100.00000 16,177,553,041.48 97,455,138.80

21 posted on 04/04/2014 7:40:44 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Ah Poor Baby. Maybe Debbie Wasserman Schultz will ask taxpayers to send him donations.

If he doesn't like the pay that's fine. Resign now and return to the private sector. BTW Washington, DC was never intended for our elected leaders to establish their residency there. They except for POTUS were expected to return home as in home state when not in session and it should be required they do so now. The District of Columbia and immediate outlying areas have now become the most represented area in the nation due to career politicians now living there permanently.

22 posted on 04/04/2014 7:41:15 PM PDT by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: FlingWingFlyer

I completely agree!!

Texas lege meets biannually. Maybe the federal lege needs to meet a little more often...but not that much.

I think it would solve a multitude of problems with our patrician politicians. And maybe the poor mistreated pol in the article could be able to get a job and not be destitute.

Dang...he might be able to enjoy the privilege of serving his country if he weren’t impoverished by having to give up his livelihood.


23 posted on 04/04/2014 7:41:27 PM PDT by berdie
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To: SeekAndFind
Doesn't seem to stop them from seeking re-election.
24 posted on 04/04/2014 7:43:19 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: SeekAndFind

The report details how Members of Congress earn a salary of $174,000—that’s 3.4 times higher than the average full-time American worker, who earns $50,875 per year. Even if you compare Members of Congress to more educated, private sector employees, they’re still doing pretty well—those Americans earn on average $83,000 per year according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

But Our Generation and the Taxpayers Protection Alliance report that the congressional base salary is just the beginning. If you count the $110,000 in taxpayer-funded fringe benefits Members receive (including plush retirement plans, paid time off, and contributions to Social Security and Medicare taxes), they’re earning close to $285,000 per year.

http://blog.heritage.org/2011/07/29/members-of-congress-earn-big-salaries-and-fringe-benefits/

Overall, government workers earn well above what their private-sector counterparts make, even before you consider benefits.” And those benefits include near-absolute job security, robust retirement and health benefits plans, paid leave, group life insurance, and even on-site child care.


25 posted on 04/04/2014 7:44:18 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: SeekAndFind

Moran has always been a POS. I would do the job at less money and give better value.

These rich fat cats haven’t worked a day in the last two decades and complain that they don’t have gilded poop


26 posted on 04/04/2014 7:46:17 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: yldstrk

And he’s “exempt” from Obamacare too so that’s like an extra $8,000 $12,000 + a year. I could definitely live on it...


27 posted on 04/04/2014 7:46:30 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: SeekAndFind

Not only do congressional representatives and senators earn the guarantee of a monthly pension check — a benefit that has become increasingly rare for most U.S. workers — they also receive Social Security payments and can opt to pay into the federal Thrift Savings Plan, a 401(k) style-plan with fees that are far lower than most retirement plans.

As a result, longtime members of Congress can easily retire with six-figure annual incomes for life.

Based on current salaries, members of Congress who serve just five years are guaranteed annual pensions of more than $14,000 at age 62, according to current pension formulas. And those who serve 20 years or more can qualify for a pension of at least $59,000 as early as age 50.

http://money.cnn.com/2013/07/29/retirement/congress-pension/


28 posted on 04/04/2014 7:48:52 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Nifster

Moron moran is complete proof that congresslosers are extremely overpaid.


29 posted on 04/04/2014 7:49:18 PM PDT by ogen hal (First amendment or reeducation camp)
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To: SeekAndFind
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30 posted on 04/04/2014 7:50:15 PM PDT by Junk Silver
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To: goldstategop

Nonsense. Your staff is paid out of your office operating expense. You do not have to have two places to live. What you need is a home in your district and room in DC. You apparently think that the $174,000 (and that doesn’t count all the other perks) are the only funds available to these ‘servants’.

This is a ridiculous amount of money to pay those who are supposed to represent us


31 posted on 04/04/2014 7:50:51 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: SeekAndFind

Members of Congress and the Senate are a bunch of overpaid worthless quislings who have not even been able to pass a budget in over 6 years. The only time they can manage to pass any type of legislation is if its in their own self interest and a detriment to the people they represent.

They should all be fired.


32 posted on 04/04/2014 7:51:42 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: SeekAndFind

33 posted on 04/04/2014 7:51:56 PM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: SeekAndFind

No one forced them to be a congress critter so go home. Get another job like real people do. He has been there far too long.


34 posted on 04/04/2014 7:55:51 PM PDT by MamaB
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To: SeekAndFind

Despite his calls for a pay raise, Moran has been accused of using his position in Congress for his own financial gain.

In 2002, he supported a bill to overhaul the bankruptcy laws that was being heavily advocated by MBNA Corporation of Delaware, a credit card company who was found to have loaned Moran $447,500 “on what appeared to be highly favorable terms,” according to a New York Times article from the time.

Moran has also been accused — by author Peter Schweizer — of insider trading, allegedly using information he obtained in a congressional hearing to make more than 90 trades in a single day ahead of the 2008 financial collapse. Moran has denied wrongdoing.

He is retiring at the end of the year.

http://o.dailycaller.com/all/2014-04-04-dem-congressman-174000-a-year-not-enough-congress-needs-a-pay-raise#2


35 posted on 04/04/2014 7:56:04 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: SeekAndFind

Moran’s networth went from 12.7 million in 2007 to $266,000.00 in 2010. I don’t know why it dropped so much or what it is now.


36 posted on 04/04/2014 7:56:16 PM PDT by zorkon128
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To: Nifster
Nonsense. Your staff is paid out of your office operating expense. You do not have to have two places to live. What you need is a home in your district and room in DC. You apparently think that the $174,000 (and that doesn’t count all the other perks) are the only funds available to these ‘servants’. This is a ridiculous amount of money to pay those who are supposed to represent us

Goldstargop thinks Putin and Russia are friends of the free world, so he may be operating from a different frame of reference. Putin supposedly has $75b to his name, so what's a measly $174K a year compared to that?

37 posted on 04/04/2014 7:57:46 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Jim Noble
It's the bribes.

And the stock tips.

38 posted on 04/04/2014 7:57:53 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: SeekAndFind

Divide that salary by the actual number of hours these assclowns work and it would be compared to professional athletes. I could only dream of a job where I only have to work about 100 days a year. If that.

Not to mention the “perks” they get on our dime. Feed em fish heads I say!


39 posted on 04/04/2014 7:57:53 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: SeekAndFind

So, I ask, why do these dip sh*ts spend 10 of millions of dollars to get these low paying jobs?


40 posted on 04/04/2014 7:58:30 PM PDT by BluH2o
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To: GeronL
He is worth 13 million -all of it while in Congress

Anybody in the private sector that amassed that kind of wealth on that salary would have the IRS looking up their ass.

41 posted on 04/04/2014 8:01:01 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: SeekAndFind

Can’t they make it up on insider trading?


42 posted on 04/04/2014 8:05:10 PM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est. New US economy: Fascism on top, Socialism on the bottom.)
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To: SeekAndFind

hell, i’d pay them all minimum wage!


43 posted on 04/04/2014 8:12:42 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: BluH2o

Things that make ya go hmmmm.


44 posted on 04/04/2014 8:16:59 PM PDT by berdie
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To: All

Moron isn’t running so he’s doing his part to pollute the public opinion of “congress” aka Republicans before the elections. There is no and there won’t be any resolution to increase pay this year.

Look for more of these tactics as time rolls by.. at least one a week from now until then. It will be opinion polls, it will be “revelations” about congressional republicans. The democrats are ramping up the oppo research staffs so expect to see stories about court filings mysteriously surfacing, parking tickets, property tax issues, credit card issues, student loan issues, gun ownership, college grades, personal business records etc, etc, etc...


45 posted on 04/04/2014 8:17:10 PM PDT by newnhdad (Our new motto: USA, it was fun while it lasted.)
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To: cva66snipe

I remember Ross Perot talking about congressional perks. He said they should have to pay for their own long term parking at the airport, fly coach and “eat lousy meals like the rest of us.” Nobody in congress liked hearing that.

It always pisses me off when I hear people complaining about their jobs as though they’re being force to work there.


46 posted on 04/04/2014 8:20:50 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: SeekAndFind
just like the perpetual low-pay bellyaching teachers - why did you take the job if you don't approve of the pay scale? HUH? Resign, go home, and STFU.
47 posted on 04/04/2014 8:23:56 PM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: goldstategop

You chose it so stop bing a cry baby.

When you retire how much will retirement money will you be getting for doing what you’re doing now - NOTHING.

You’ll be getting a lot more than the money I receive at $1800.00 + per month.

What a f’ing crybaby.


48 posted on 04/04/2014 8:24:44 PM PDT by chiefqc
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To: SeekAndFind

Then the SOB should get himself a RV camper in live in it like I did for two years on the job.
Lying worthless bastard.


49 posted on 04/04/2014 8:28:43 PM PDT by crz
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To: SeekAndFind

Hey Moron, then go find a job in the private sector that pays $174,000
a year...plus all the vote buying and bribes you get under the table.


50 posted on 04/04/2014 8:30:55 PM PDT by tennmountainman (Just Say No To Obamacare)
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