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This Machine Can Tell Whether You're Liberal or Conservative
Mother Jones/Drudge ^ | 4 Apr 2014 | Chris Mooney

Posted on 04/05/2014 7:23:32 AM PDT by shove_it

Thomas Jefferson was a smart dude. And in one of his letters to John Adams, dated June 27, 1813, Jefferson made an observation about the nature of politics that science is only now, two centuries later, beginning to confirm. "The same political parties which now agitate the United States, have existed through all time," wrote Jefferson. "The terms of Whig and Tory belong to natural, as well as to civil history," he later added. "They denote the temper and constitution of mind of different individuals."

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It all adds up, according to Hibbing, to what he calls a "negativity bias" on the right. Conservatives, Hibbing's research suggests, go through the world more attentive to negative, threatening, and disgusting stimuli—and then they adopt tough, defensive, and aversive ideologies to match that perceived reality....

(Excerpt) Read more at motherjones.com ...


TOPICS: Philosophy; Politics/Elections
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This may be satire but I'm pretty sure it's another cockamamy liberal study paid for by us.
1 posted on 04/05/2014 7:23:32 AM PDT by shove_it
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To: shove_it

Since I’m adverse to the negative, threatening, and disgusting Obama, I must be a conservative.


2 posted on 04/05/2014 7:31:07 AM PDT by meatloaf (Impeach Obama. That's my New Year's resolution.)
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To: shove_it

Basically, if you allow someone to put that contraption on your head, then you are a liberal..


3 posted on 04/05/2014 7:33:07 AM PDT by ArtDodger
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To: shove_it

The difference is between rationality and emotionalism. The “left” are a bunch of dewy-eyed shallow adolescents.


4 posted on 04/05/2014 7:34:01 AM PDT by Ray76 (Take over the GOP? You still beg! Fight for what's right. Forget them.)
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To: shove_it

I read this on Mother Jones yesterday, plus comments.

Best comment was liberals must have a mental illness. Explains things the best (or have a demon to be more explicit).


5 posted on 04/05/2014 7:34:53 AM PDT by Scrambler Bob (You can count my felonies by looking at my FR replies.)
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To: shove_it
Conservatives understand the reality of human nature and feel empathy for the plight of mankind.

Liberals think everything will naturally work out well if the right people are in charge (them), and don't much care for individual cases where their good intentions don't pan out.

6 posted on 04/05/2014 7:40:22 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: shove_it

Conservatives have a functioning sense of disgust and negative response. Liberals have to fake it because they don’t have a properly functioning brain. It’s why they are hypocrites about near everything. Republican is racially insensitive? It outrages and disgusts them. Liberal makes a joke about Indians running 7-11s and they laugh. A black mod beats a white man nearly to death? Ehh... these things happen. A hispanic man shoots a black teen who was beating him to death? Outrage!

If anything, the headline should be, “conservatives have a proper functioning brain while liberals have suppressed mental function.”


7 posted on 04/05/2014 7:46:10 AM PDT by Bogey78O (We had a good run. Coulda been great still.)
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To: ArtDodger

Yup. That’s why I included the pic in the excerpt ... ;o)


8 posted on 04/05/2014 7:48:08 AM PDT by shove_it (my real nickname is Otter)
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To: shove_it

In developmental psychology it’s called “individuation.”

Put bluntly, conservatives are individuated, liberals are not.

And Leftists are reptiles.


9 posted on 04/05/2014 7:51:34 AM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: shove_it

This is an old Andy Rooney piece:

A lot of you probably aren’t sure whether you’re Republicans or Democrats. We have an election coming up shortly, and you ought to find out what you are. I thought it might help if I explained the difference between Republicans and Democrats.

Democrats believe the trouble started with Herbert Hoover, and was worse during the Presidency of Richard Nixon.
Republicans believe the trouble started with FDR, and is worse than ever right now.

Democrats leave the dishes in the drying rack on the sink overnight.
Republicans put the dishes away every night.

Republicans play tennis
Democrats bowl, unless they’re Kennedy Democrats, in which case they play tennis too.

Democrats love television, and watch a lot of it.
Republicans hate television. They watch a lot of it too.

Democrats are baseball fans.
Republicans follow college football.

Democrats buy their food on payday once a week at the supermarket
Republicans go to the grocery store everyday.

Democrats usually write with a pencil.
Republicans use pens.

In the summer, Democrats drink beer.
Republicans drink gin and tonic. In the winter, they drink scotch and soda.
Democrats drink beer.

Republicans think taxes are too high because of the Democrats.
Democrats think taxes are too high because of the Republicans.

Republicans have dinner between seven and eight.
Democrats have supper between five and six.

Democrats drink coffee with cream and sugar, from mugs.
Republicans take theirs black — with cup and saucer.

Democrats don’t seal the envelopes of their Christmas cards, which they sign by hand.
Republicans seal the envelopes of their Christmas cards, which have their names printed on them — unless they’re very rich Republicans, in which case they sign them by hand. If they’re very, very rich, they have someone else sign them.

Democrats believe people are basically good but must be saved from themselves by their government.
Republicans believe people are basically bad but they’ll be ok if they’re left alone.

A lot of Republicans are more like Democrats used to be, and a lot of Democrats are more like Republicans used to be. If you’re still not sure what you are, you’re probably a Democrat.


10 posted on 04/05/2014 7:51:49 AM PDT by null and void (I don't mind getting older, but I hate wearing out!)
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To: shove_it
It all adds up, according to Hibbing, to what he calls a "negativity bias" on the right.

Exactly 180 degrees wrong. It is liberals who constantly see boogy men that an ever growing big daddy government has to protect us from.

11 posted on 04/05/2014 7:53:20 AM PDT by DManA
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To: shove_it

I confess to being puzzled by the photo. She has the run away bride crazy eyes, and a wedding band...


12 posted on 04/05/2014 7:54:13 AM PDT by null and void (I don't mind getting older, but I hate wearing out!)
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To: shove_it

The premise of this article and study runs directly counter to the repeated surveys that show conservatives are much happier, more contented, successful people. Unless, a realistic negativity is required to create such lives.

I do think there may be something to differing levels of emotional maturity, such that people tend to become more conservative with age—and such people probably are more turned off to the ‘gross outs’ that intrigue children and adolescents.


13 posted on 04/05/2014 7:54:15 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: shove_it

Conservative - “Watch out! That lion will eat you!”
Liberal - “But he looks so cuddly!”


14 posted on 04/05/2014 7:56:07 AM PDT by Flick Lives ("I can't believe it's not Fascism!")
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To: null and void
Democrats believe people are basically good but must be saved from themselves by their government.
Republicans believe people are basically bad but they’ll be ok if they’re left alone.

Democrats believe people are basically good but must be fixed by their government.
Republicans believe people are basically bad but cannot be changed and should not be manipulated by their government.

15 posted on 04/05/2014 7:57:31 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: null and void

Rooney of course was speaking of N.E. liberal republicans. That’s all he know. Totally ignorant of the country west of the Hudson.


16 posted on 04/05/2014 7:58:30 AM PDT by DManA
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To: ClearCase_guy

Republicans believe people are basically bad and the WORST of them will rise to grab the levers of power. So we’d better keep these levers as small as possible.


17 posted on 04/05/2014 8:00:17 AM PDT by DManA
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To: shove_it

If you watch a man attempt to better himself, but gets tripped up along the way, and you think, “That sucks”, you are a conservative.

If you are watching your neighbor becoming engaged in a profiting exercise of his natural talents and abilities, and is becoming successful, and you examine yourself, but make no changes, and scream to your neighbor, “What you are doing sucks!!” You are a liberal.


18 posted on 04/05/2014 8:00:59 AM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: null and void

My first impression of the photo was that this article is satire.


19 posted on 04/05/2014 8:03:44 AM PDT by shove_it (my real nickname is Otter)
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To: null and void
She has the run away bride crazy eyes, and a wedding band...

Eyes + Band = Miserable husband at home in an apron (and nothing else).

20 posted on 04/05/2014 8:05:42 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: DManA
The hard-core liberals I've known each had a barely suppressed violent temper.

The heart and soul of liberalism is based on this.

They believe, quite reasonably (but incorrectly), that everyone is just like them, a ticking time-bomb, a super heated boiler with a jammed safety valve, and therefore the government, that great and all protecting, all providing, all knowing government, must disarm and utterly control everyone at all times to prevent the world from plummeting into chaos.

Of course, this doesn't apply to people who are not "just like them", anyone from another culture is automatically exempt from evil intent and violent temper, any observed tendency to, say, behead infidels, doesn't realllllly happen, it's just us projecting our own cultural barely-suppressed violence onto them, or perhaps their responding to it in a desperate act of self-defense!...

21 posted on 04/05/2014 8:06:12 AM PDT by null and void (I don't mind getting older, but I hate wearing out!)
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To: shove_it

By “negativity bias” he means being disgusted by disgusting things. The diference he is measuring is due to the Holy Spirit.


22 posted on 04/05/2014 8:06:43 AM PDT by Dead Dog
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To: DManA

And liberals think we need govt to make people behave... So claims they believe in the best in people contradicts their positions.


23 posted on 04/05/2014 8:07:07 AM PDT by csivils
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To: DManA

There’s country west of the Hudson???


24 posted on 04/05/2014 8:07:19 AM PDT by null and void (I don't mind getting older, but I hate wearing out!)
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To: Cyber Liberty

Kinky...


25 posted on 04/05/2014 8:08:10 AM PDT by null and void (I don't mind getting older, but I hate wearing out!)
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To: csivils

Much more succinct than my post #21


26 posted on 04/05/2014 8:09:00 AM PDT by null and void (I don't mind getting older, but I hate wearing out!)
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To: ArtDodger

I was expecting a time clock.

Or workboots.


27 posted on 04/05/2014 8:14:52 AM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: null and void
Dave Barry's take:

The Democrats seem to be basically nicer people, but they have demonstrated time and again that they have the management skills of celery. They're the kind of people who'd stop to help you change a flat, but would somehow manage to set your car on fire. I would be reluctant to entrust them with a Cuisinart, let alone the economy. The Republicans, on the other hand, would know how to fix your tire, but they wouldn't bother to stop because they'd want to be on time for Ugly Pants Night at the country club.

28 posted on 04/05/2014 8:18:08 AM PDT by mykroar (We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again. - Nathanael Greene)
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To: shove_it

“conservatives have a proper functioning brain while liberals have suppressed mental function.” sums it up


29 posted on 04/05/2014 8:18:11 AM PDT by zzwhale
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To: mykroar

Dave Barry’s take:

The Democrats seem to be basically nicer people, but they have demonstrated time and again that they have the management skills of celery. They’re the kind of people who’d stop to help you change a flat, but would somehow manage to set your car on fire. I would be reluctant to entrust them with a Cuisinart, let alone the economy. The Republicans, on the other hand, would know how to fix your tire, but they wouldn’t bother to stop because they’d want to be on time for Ugly Pants Night at the country club.


I have found that a good way to madden a liberal is to ask them what they would choose to be known by others as: “stupid” or “mean.”

The questions drives them nuts, because they know that we all know their true answer. Conservatives, on the other hand are very comfortable answering, because we’re comfortable with our choice.


30 posted on 04/05/2014 8:26:59 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Lose to Cruz - 2016!)
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To: shove_it

A much better and more accurate test, flash names like Barack Obama and George W Bush on a screen and observe the reactions.


31 posted on 04/05/2014 8:27:15 AM PDT by Zack Attack
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To: Zack Attack

Be sure to include the ‘MISSION ACCOMPLISHED” banner in the background.


32 posted on 04/05/2014 8:30:03 AM PDT by shove_it (my real nickname is Otter)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Democrats believe people are basically good, but . .
Republicans believe people are basically . . .


Democrats believe (most) people are basically good, but stupid. They need direction from the few enlightened, intelligent people (like the limousine liberals). These smart people demonstrate their intelligence and enlightenment by getting government jobs (or the next best thing - jobs with government funded companies known as 'non-profits').

Republicans believe people are basically selfish, but smart. They'll figure out ways to work together for their own (and mutual benefit) if left the freedom to make their own choices. This is demonstrated by the efficiency of free markets, which have led to the highest standard of living for all people in the history of the world.
33 posted on 04/05/2014 8:34:24 AM PDT by Phlyer
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To: 9YearLurker; All

“The premise of this article and study runs directly counter to the repeated surveys that show conservatives are much happier, more contented, successful people. Unless, a realistic negativity is required to create such lives.”

You are exactly correct. This article is pure propaganda, to the extent that it tries to portray Republicans as negative. That is where the spin is, I believe.

The other thing is that this is not easily changed. Leftists do tend to move toward becoming conservatives as they age. Perhaps the brain matures, but there is a very strong genetic correlation.

THE MOTIVATIONS OF POLITICAL LEFTISTS

http://tongue-tied2.blogspot.com/2006/06/what-appears-below-is-attempt-to.html


34 posted on 04/05/2014 8:40:47 AM PDT by marktwain (The old media must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: shove_it

What a pantload. The conclusions he draws reflect his own bias.


35 posted on 04/05/2014 8:46:37 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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To: 9YearLurker
The premise of this article and study runs directly counter to the repeated surveys that show conservatives are much happier, more contented, successful people.

I noticed that to.

The other thing I noticed was that it appears as though the Liberal lifestyle is used as the baseline standard from which to measure Conservatives deviation of behavior.

Liberalism is the norm, Conservatism is the deviant behavior. From this, Conservatives have to defend their behavior, while Liberal behavior doesn't need defending, as it is the normal.

36 posted on 04/05/2014 8:58:53 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Want to keep your doctor? Remove your Democrat Senator.)
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To: shove_it

I agree with the basic premise, but with his conclusion. I know a lot of liberals and the difference between liberals and conservatives is not how they seem the world, but how they react to it. Conservatives are thinkers. When presented with an issue we looking at it in a logical way and determine our response accordingly. Liberals are emotion based. The don’t need or care about facts or hard data because the react to everything in a visceral why. That is why you can’t have a logical argument with a liberal because facts don’t matter. Its all about you feel. We have raised at least one generation of kids with this how does that make you feel mantra, and the vast majority of them are and always will be liberal.


37 posted on 04/05/2014 9:31:11 AM PDT by redangus
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To: redangus

Add “not” before conclusion. Sorry.


38 posted on 04/05/2014 9:39:51 AM PDT by redangus
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To: redangus

Okay I’m not awake yet. Try to read through all the mistakes. See not seem, look not looking, way not why. I hope I didn’t miss any.


39 posted on 04/05/2014 9:42:04 AM PDT by redangus
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To: shove_it; meatloaf; ArtDodger; Ray76; Scrambler Bob; ClearCase_guy; Bogey78O; Talisker; DManA; ...
This article is actually fully correct, and the path this research is on will lead to the destruction of Liberalism, if we follow it. Conservatism and Liberalism are basically intellectual manifestations of the two main reproductive strategies identified in ecology as r and K-Selected reproductive strategies.

Nature tends to offer one of two environments to organisms. Either resource excess/glut, or resource shortage.

If there is a resource excess, then your best reproductive strategy is to seek to produce raw numbers of offspring, rather than high-quality offspring. Think rabbits. You avoid danger and competition (food is everywhere, so why not run, rather than fight and risk). You mate promiscuously, with everything. You invest minimally in offspring rearing. You sexualize the young, to maximize numbers. And you don't bother with group loyalty, because there is no competition. This is a psychology designed to hedonistically exploit the bloom, and focus on pursuing pleasure, so it focuses on pursuing pleasure as much as possible. Many humans are designed to go r if resources are suddenly flush.

The opposite is what happens when resources are not sufficient for everyone to survive. It is called a K-selected reproductive strategy. Think wolves. You are aggressive and competitive, because if you aren't, you don't get even a chance at getting food. Only those who produce the fittest, most capable offspring see them survive the competition and pass on genes, so you carefully select the fittest mate possible, monopolize their fitness with monogamy, carefully rear your offspring in a two parent family, and encourage your offspring to wait to mate until maximally mature and competitive so they can acquire the fittest mate possible for a monogamous relationship themselves. And because you are in a competition, you form loyal ingroups, and support your in-group over the out-group. Since your world is dangerous, you focus on threats and dangers, and try to deal with them before they become a problem. Humans in a K world will adapt a more competitive, K-mindset, and become more conservative.

These two psychologies exist throughout nature. We are currently going r, and seeing the rabbits bloom, because of the free resource availability, but we will go K as the rabbits consume everything like locusts, and destroy the economy. Then K will reemerge, and produce excess all over again. It is a natural cycle of nations.

There are reams of evidence for this, and it will destroy leftism. Once politics is taught as empty headed, threat-blind rabbits, and smart, loyal, competitive wolves, nobody is going to want to be a rabbit. Leftists themselves freak out when you explain this to them. A couple of the reviewers note these libtard freakouts in the Amazon reviews of the book on the subject.

Bill Whittle talks about some of the implications here, starting at about the 1 hour mark, while discussing the book about the subject (Which just happens to be free at Amazon today in Kindle form, and is made free about once per month. For those interested in getting the kindle free -see http://www.anonymousocnservative.com to get notified when it is free, if you are interested). Whittle's gazelle analogy is particularly striking.

As for “negativity,” Conservatives do clearly focus on negative stimuli in the studies, because we are designed to confront it preemptively, and even this is an intellectual/logical weapon against Liberals. We see the national debt, and focus on it because we see the threat. We see terrorists, and focus on them, we see crime, and want to defend ourselves. Liberals don't see any of that, because they are not designed to. They just want free resources everywhere, which combined with their inability to see threats like debt, is why our economy is about to collapse. The brain structure behind that is actually quite fascinating, because Liberals have smaller amygdalae on MRI's, and there are actually studies saying if amygdalae don't work, the most notable aspect of the individual is an inability to perceive threat or focus upon it. Interestingly the amygdala is also the seat of sexual behavior, parental investment, loyalty, and all the traits of r and K. Darwin probably condensed it all into one structure for developmental reasons.

Nobody should knock this research, because the libtards doing it are unknowingly kicking a hornets nest that will ultimately destroy their own ideology, beginning in the college political science courses where they all want to begin the leftist indoctrination. We must encourage them to kick harder. The day an article like this produces a torrent of enthusiastic explanations about r/K Selection Theory, and rabbits and wolves, is the day that Liberalism is dead in the water, even among Liberals. It is why it kills me when I see articles like this, that should just trigger more wolf/rabbit denigrations of liberals, yet so many don't see the beautiful path that this research is leading to.

40 posted on 04/05/2014 9:50:39 AM PDT by AnonymousConservative (Why did Liberals evolve within our species? www.anonymousconservative.com)
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To: AnonymousConservative

Liberalism won’t be destroyed, only temporarily defeated.

It has been around since immediately following the Garden of Eden, and will be with us until the end of earth.


41 posted on 04/05/2014 10:02:12 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Want to keep your doctor? Remove your Democrat Senator.)
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To: shove_it

It must measure brain waves. Lack of such waves and your Liberal.


42 posted on 04/05/2014 10:03:03 AM PDT by stillfree? (I am the Tea Party)
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To: marktwain

“This article is pure propaganda”

It’s Mother Jones.

Everything in it is propaganda.


43 posted on 04/05/2014 10:06:19 AM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: AnonymousConservative

Well, this thread may get real interesting now.


44 posted on 04/05/2014 10:10:37 AM PDT by shove_it (my real nickname is Otter)
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To: AnonymousConservative

Thanks for the great info.


45 posted on 04/05/2014 10:25:37 AM PDT by meatloaf (Impeach Obama. That's my New Year's resolution.)
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To: Balding_Eagle

But this is a powerful weapon for the battle now. Liberalism requires a certain degree of social acceptance, for Liberals to openly advocate on its behalf, mainly because Liberals are very shame-averse (I suspect an outgrowth of fear of confrontation/competition). Reagan did a number on the image of Liberals with his humorous denigrations, and they went scurrying. This is kind of like that, but it will persist longer, because the evidence behind renders it a longer lasting truth, and the way in which it mingles with our naturally competitive natures will give it power. Who want’s to be a rabbit?

That said, you are probably right. I think if we did eradicate Liberalism completely, the nation would enter such a boom of productivity, and produce such extraordinary levels of free resources, that it would eventually see a rise in rabbits all over again. It is tough, when everyone is filthy rich and mindlessly happy, to get people angry enough to stand up to leftists, and their incremental pushes towards totalitarianism and redistributive theft. Sadly, Leftists won’t constrain themselves, without some such threat from our side, so the cycles will probably continue.

I do think this might attenuate their magnitude though. Even honest leftists who see it pause, because they realize logically, that they may actually be bringing back the very Lord of the Flies scenarios that they are so poorly adapted to survive.


46 posted on 04/05/2014 10:35:11 AM PDT by AnonymousConservative (Why did Liberals evolve within our species? www.anonymousconservative.com)
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To: shove_it

I hope. It is killing me, knowing leftists hate this so much, and not seeing it everywhere.


47 posted on 04/05/2014 10:37:34 AM PDT by AnonymousConservative (Why did Liberals evolve within our species? www.anonymousconservative.com)
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To: meatloaf

We’re a team effort. Which is good, given what is coming.


48 posted on 04/05/2014 10:41:43 AM PDT by AnonymousConservative (Why did Liberals evolve within our species? www.anonymousconservative.com)
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To: shove_it
It all adds up, according to Hibbing, to what he calls a "negativity bias" on the right. Conservatives, Hibbing's research suggests, go through the world more attentive to negative, threatening, and disgusting stimuli—and then they adopt tough, defensive, and aversive ideologies to match that perceived reality....

Which is why Liberals try to personally destroy those who disagree with them, and crap on cop cars at Occupy rallies. Makes sense to me!

49 posted on 04/05/2014 10:55:22 AM PDT by Cymbaline ("Allahu Akbar": Arabic for "Nothing To See Here" - Mark Steyn)
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To: AnonymousConservative

It will become painfully clear to leftists on judgement day. As you say, it’s a pity they don’t see it in their daily lives. Freedom is God’s gift that they do not accept or try to take from others.


50 posted on 04/05/2014 11:05:53 AM PDT by shove_it (my real nickname is Otter)
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