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U.S. Response to Crimea Worries Japanís Leaders
New York Slimes ^ | 4/5/2014 | HELENE COOPER and MARTIN FACKLER

Posted on 04/05/2014 11:02:40 AM PDT by mojito

TOKYO — When President Bill Clinton signed a 1994 agreement promising to “respect” the territorial integrity of Ukraine if it gave up its nuclear weapons, there was little thought then of how that obscure diplomatic pact — called the Budapest Memorandum — might affect the long-running defense partnership between the United States and Japan.

But now, as American officials have distanced themselves from the Budapest Memorandum in light of Russia’s takeover of Crimea, calling promises made in Budapest “nonbinding,” the United States is being forced at the same time to make reassurances in Asia. Japanese officials, a senior American military official said, “keep asking, ‘Are you going to do the same thing to us when something happens?’ ”

For Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel, who arrived in Tokyo on Saturday for two days of talks with Japan’s leaders, including Prime Minister Shinzo Abe, America’s longstanding promise to protect Japan against hostile nations — read China and North Korea — has suddenly come under the microscope. The American response to the Russian takeover of Crimea, which President Obama has condemned while at the same time ruling out American military action, has caused deep concern among already skittish Japanese officials.

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One Japanese official said, speaking on the condition of anonymity, said, “We are just looking for a commitment from the American side.”

Obama administration officials say they stand by the American commitment to protect Japan, while refraining from explicitly stating that the United States would intervene militarily in the Senkakus dispute.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Japan; Russia
KEYWORDS: budapestmemorandum; china; chuckhagel; crimea; japan; northkorea; obama; senkakus
I'm not sure which is bigger news: that our allies now see Barry as the worthless, lying, incompetent, poseur manchild that he's always been; or, the NY Slimes has published a less that worshipful article on his Barryness.
1 posted on 04/05/2014 11:02:40 AM PDT by mojito
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To: mojito
Japan....Are you a Muslim Country? Do you kill Christians??

So why are you even asking?

2 posted on 04/05/2014 11:13:26 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: mojito

The Japanese need to be worried. Obama is no Nimitz.


3 posted on 04/05/2014 11:13:28 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: mojito

So if Putin takes back Alaska, will Caliph Baraq draw a red line and issue a “strongly worded” statement?

Of course with Russia’s tax rates, maybe the Alaskans would welcome him?


4 posted on 04/05/2014 11:15:21 AM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: mojito

China is building a BlueWater Navy. North Korea is playing with Nukes. Japan has an unreliable “protector”.
I see new, magnificent ships on the Pacific. Vessels with historic names, names that fought heroically in a (gladly) losing cause.
Names such as Yamato, Hiryu, Shinano, Yahagi, Shokaku and others. The U.S. Navy, though, will no longer be able to display its most famous name....ENTERPRISE.
When the United States was either Respected OR Feared, a lid was put on the world. Yes, there was agitated bubbling under the lid, but the kettle never boiled over.
Now, the lid is off the kettle and “here we go.”


5 posted on 04/05/2014 11:22:04 AM PDT by CaptainAmiigaf (NY TIMES: We print the news as it fits our views.)
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To: nascarnation

If Alaska were a province of a “Washington Empire”, modeled after the Roman Empire; instead of a state in the USA — most Alaskans wouldn’t know the difference. (An impression I got from many visits, while I lived nearby.)


6 posted on 04/05/2014 11:38:43 AM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: mojito
U.S.NON-Response to Crimea Worries Japan’s Leaders
7 posted on 04/05/2014 11:40:05 AM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: mojito

I can’t imagine why Japan is worrying - in case China and/or North Korea attack, Obama’s United States will continue to leave the Japanese alone to do whatever they want.


8 posted on 04/05/2014 11:42:52 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: mojito

Barry has an ax to grind concerning Japanese treatment of muslims in the Philippines, Borneo, Burma, Thailand, Malaysia and Indonesia during the 1940s. Hussein also has an ax to grind against Japan over it’s support of the United States in its wars of aggression in Korea and Vietnam.


9 posted on 04/05/2014 11:43:22 AM PDT by fso301
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To: mojito
From the article:
Some analysts and former policy makers were blunt in saying that a failure to come to Japan’s aid in a clash over the Senkakus/Diaoyu islands could spell the end of the two nations’ postwar alliance.

“If Japan is attacked, and the Americans decline to respond, then it is time from the Americans to pull out” of their bases here, Mr. Miyake said. “Without those bases, America is not going to be a Pacific power anymore. America knows that.”

What - they're gonna hike defense spending beyond the current measly 1% of GDP? I have my doubts. Uncle Sam's the only game in town unless the Japanese are willing to make sacrifices. The Yamato spirit isn't dormant - it's extinct.
10 posted on 04/05/2014 11:46:22 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Enterprise

Obama would throw Japan under the bus quicker than you can say,So Sorry.


11 posted on 04/05/2014 11:52:56 AM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Probably happened when Zero said he was behind Japan 100 percent. Thanks mojito.


12 posted on 04/05/2014 11:54:37 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Obama is now making Jimmy Carter look like Attila the Hun. /focus/news/3138768/posts)
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To: Zhang Fei

They pay for all the US bases in Japan so they can just re-direct that money into weapons systems.


13 posted on 04/05/2014 12:04:01 PM PDT by USAF80
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To: USAF80
They pay for all the US bases in Japan so they can just re-direct that money into weapons systems.

$2b a year won't buy them a lot of equipment, and certainly not enough to offset China's massive procurement budget that is growing in leaps and bounds along with its GDP, which is why we are seeing so many new models of Chinese ships and aircraft.

14 posted on 04/05/2014 12:17:57 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Farmer Dean
"Obama would throw Japan under the bus quicker than you can say, So Sorry."

Couldn't agree more. Maybe Obama sent the Moose to China to convey that same message.

15 posted on 04/05/2014 12:29:33 PM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Zhang Fei

$2 billion is a couple of used B2 bombers. China may be building up but Japan have the equip and the training to kicks some serious buttocks.


16 posted on 04/05/2014 12:38:06 PM PDT by USAF80
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To: Pride in the USA; Stillwaters

Japan is right to be worried. We are too.


17 posted on 04/05/2014 12:58:48 PM PDT by lonevoice (We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality)
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To: USAF80
$2 billion is a couple of used B2 bombers. China may be building up but Japan have the equip and the training to kicks some serious buttocks.

In the absence of the alliance, what Japan needs is a nuclear triad. $2b a year doesn't even scratch the surface of what they have to develop and purchase.

The B-2's in our inventory are practically brand-new - especially compared to the B-1's and B-52's. USAF has plans for them until 2058. No way the Japanese are getting them. Besides, they'd be better off getting a dozen F-35's, which are said to be stealthier than B-2's and probably way less maintenance-intensive.

18 posted on 04/05/2014 1:28:23 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: nascarnation

That would be the Ultimate Shock; if Putin ‘re-took’ Alaska, and Obama did nothing but make speeches between Two Ferns.


19 posted on 04/05/2014 1:56:08 PM PDT by lee martell
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To: nascarnation

Obama would cede Alaska to Russia just to be rid of Sarah Palin. Barak has got his priorities STRAIGHT! /S


20 posted on 04/05/2014 3:05:25 PM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: Zhang Fei

F22s would have been a better aircraft but we did not want our allies to have any and we don’t have enough. F35 is single engined and can’t carry a large payload. Japan is an island nation so they need a bird with a long reach.

They can make their own stuff. It just cost them more because they can’t export arms to bring their development costs down.

I’m pretty sure Japan already have nukes or can make them in a jiffy. They have the expertise, the fuel and the delivery systems.

Japan is like the Israel of the Far East.


21 posted on 04/05/2014 5:37:47 PM PDT by USAF80
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To: USAF80
Japan is like the Israel of the Far East.

Israel has only ever stomped Arabs. Japan needs to be the Japan of the Far East - the Japan that came close to conquering China before it got sidetracked into that blind alley that began with Pearl Harbor. Is the Japan that gave Uncle Sam a run for his money, for the first year or so after Pearl Harbor, more than a historical relic? We may get to find out if, in the wake of an American decision to sit out the Senkaku dispute, Japan does abrogate the treaty that binds the US to Japan's defense.

22 posted on 04/05/2014 5:56:51 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Zhang Fei

We cut off their livelihood so they went after the fleet.

Always wondered why they went after the battleships at Pearl when they knew carriers were the future.


23 posted on 04/05/2014 6:05:43 PM PDT by USAF80
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To: USAF80
Always wondered why they went after the battleships at Pearl when they knew carriers were the future.

They weren't aware that the Enterprise and the Lexington had departed Pearl on December 4 & 5 respectively to ferry aircraft to Wake Island and Midway, respectively.

Ssratoga had just completed a re-fit at the Puget Sound shipyard and was on her way to San Diego.

Those were the only three carriers in the Pacific Fleet at the time.

24 posted on 04/05/2014 6:16:48 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media -- IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: okie01

If you look at all their practicing and equipment it was for battleships not the carriers.

Our flattops did not have armored flight decks and they used armor piercing bombs (modified shells)

(I was at Pearl when they were filming the movie Pearl Harbor. In the movie they blew up three destroyers which were actually Japanese destroyers that were at Pearl on a port call.)


25 posted on 04/05/2014 6:23:42 PM PDT by USAF80
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To: mojito

The demise of the United States of America evidenced in its failure to honor treaties.


26 posted on 04/05/2014 11:09:07 PM PDT by clearcarbon
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To: SunkenCiv

Japan, Taiwan, Israel, Easter Europe - all are on their own... twisting in the wind. Good luck guys...


27 posted on 04/06/2014 7:26:45 AM PDT by GOPJ ("Dog shit by Mail" could be sold to 7 million Americans IF IRS muscle was behind the venture.)
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To: GOPJ

Not just eastern, but also western Europe. That’s what Zero was trying to get across to our former NATO allies with his insistence on that nuclear war “game” — “you’re on your own, and this is what will happen to you if you defy my Russian master.” His ongoing project of leaving the US with a massively cut gay military and no allies approaches fruition. And the next president will have another 9/11 to deal with. It’s the same thing that Clinton did to GW.


28 posted on 04/06/2014 10:40:54 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Zhang Fei

Japan kicked Russki ass in 1905....led to the chain of events that ultimately led to the downfall of the Czar.


29 posted on 04/06/2014 10:42:42 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: mojito

"Son....you're on your own."

30 posted on 04/06/2014 10:44:23 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: mojito
U.S. Response to Crimea Worries Japan’s Leaders

I'd love to know what security assurances The Ukraine was given to talk them into giving up their nukes.

No country will ever trust the US again, thanks to the usurping kenyan muzzie.

31 posted on 04/06/2014 10:48:54 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Who but a TYRANT shoves down another man's throat what he has exempted himself from?)
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To: The Sons of Liberty
I'd love to know what security assurances The Ukraine was given to talk them into giving up their nukes.

Clinton signed it, 'nuff said.

32 posted on 04/06/2014 10:50:11 AM PDT by dfwgator
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