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The War Against God Is Gripping Our World
Paw Creek Ministries ^ | April 5, 2014 | Pastor Joseph Chambers

Posted on 04/05/2014 2:41:11 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

Excerpts:

The clouds of war are gathering all over our world, but it’s not just a war of guns and missiles, it is war against God, the Creator Himself.

The Holy Ghost warned us in the prophesies of David. He wrote,“Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing? The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, saying, Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us.” (Psalms 2:1-3) From entertainment to the high courts of America, the blasphemous world is staging a war against God. The atheists, liberals, and apostate Christians all want a life without restraints and without the fear of judgment for sin. The words “Merry Christmas,” must become “Happy Holiday”, the Ten Commandments must be out of public sight, the preachers must remain behind closed sanctuary doors, and everything else must be stripped of morals. If God won’t die, then at least the world wants His mouth shut.

Turn on the news and even conservative “Fox News” is stripped of morals. One of their stars, Bill O’Reilly, comes unglued if someone declares they believe in the Bible as the standard of living. When Bible-believing people are routinely criticized or treated as morons, war is being waged against God, not the individuals. While I deplore the God hating organizations like “American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU),” “People for the American Way,” “National Organization of Women,” “National Education Association,” and their many counterparts, the biggest problem in this war is liberal and apostate Christianity. Let’s try to understand both the secular and the religious facts about this war against God.

First, do I need to tell you who is going to win? God Himself has plainly stated, “The earth is the Lord’s and the fullness thereof.” (Psalm 24:1) If you have read the last chapter of His infallible Word, you already know that He will have the last word and will be victorious. He said by His Spirit, “He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision. Then shall he speak unto them in his wrath, and vex them in his sore displeasure.” (Psalm 2:4-5)

“The LORD shall reign for ever, even thy God, O Zion, unto all generations. Praise ye the LORD.” (Psalm 146:10) A Bible-believing Christian should not fear, be anxious, or trouble himself over our glorious future. The future of this earth and every saint of God is star-studded and breathtaking. Write it down in your book and walk with God in peace and hope.

The Facts about this War Against God

Americans must wake up and join this war that our enemy has engaged. Our God is going to win in the end, but the Bible makes it plain that your victory on a personal level is yours to fight. The devil has no power but what you either give him by choice or what you allow him by default. He has the right to engage you and stand against you and you have the responsibility to resist him or he wins. The world is loaded with wrecked lives because they did not join in the war to stop their enemy. Your family needs a priest that stands in the door of your home and says, “Wait a minute, devil. I’m in charge around here.” The church must have pastors and elders that refuse the enemy’s efforts to destroy. Even the nation needs Godly prophets and prayer warriors that lead the charge against the destroyer. In each battle that is engaged, somebody wins, and the choice is ours.

We are experiencing some wonderful wins. Liberals succeeded in forcing the post offices in Montgomery County, Texas, to remove a framed picture of our flag, which included the motto, “In God We trust.” That is, except for one postmaster who refused, saying, “over my dead body.” Her stand caused the necessary attention all the way to Washington, DC. Now, the United States Postal Service has had 38,000 pictures of the Statue of Liberty, which include “In God We Trust,” framed to hang in every post office in America. While President,George Bush signed into law a bill reaffirming the words, “In God We Trust,” as our national motto. This is a war we lose only when we do not join in the battle.

The Killing of the Unborn

“Killing unborn children is not a matter of a woman’s right, but a matter of a war against God. Every created human, whether in the mother’s womb or in the mother’s arms, is an eternal soul created by the Creator. A person that supports abortion is an enemy of God. There is no other way to say it. The Bible makes it plain that children are known from the mother’s womb. John the Baptist was filled with the Holy Ghost when Elizabeth was six months with child. “For he shall be great in the sight of the Lord, and shall drink neither wine nor strong drink; and he shall be filled with the Holy Ghost, even from his mother’s womb.” (Luke 1:15) The presence of the Son of Man in Mary’s womb was the very source of John being filled in Elizabeth’s womb. All our physical parts are known before we are conceived and listed in His book of human substance. Listen. “For thou hast possessed my reins: thou hast covered me in my mother’s womb. I will praise thee; for I am fearfully and wonderfully made: marvellous are thy works; and that my soul knoweth right well. My substance was not hid from thee, when I was made in secret, and curiously wrought in the lowest parts of the earth. Thine eyes did see my substance, yet being unperfect; and in thy book all my members were written, which in continuance were fashioned, when as yet there was none of them.” (Psalm 139:13-16) To war against the unborn is to wage war against their Creator.

The Faith in Public Life

It has become clear that liberals love religion but hate the God of Holy Scripture. Once they were able to stop prayer in public schools and to demand the removal of the Ten Commandments, their attitude began to change. Now, they are demanding that Islam be studied and allowed as a faith issue in public life. They want all religions to be accepted as equal. This reduces Christianity to an empty idea on par with all religions. In this case, God is no longer a threat because He has lost His capital “G.” They do not mind God with a little “g” because then He has no authority to set moral standards on their lives. It is nothing but war against the one and true God.

Because the constitution is a Biblical document clearly based on Biblical principles, it must be destroyed. The war against God includes the war against the Bill of Rights and the United States Constitution. Individual rights are a Biblical matter and anathema to the liberal agenda. Capitol punishment is a Biblical deterrent to the destruction of innocent lives and must be forever destroyed. This unbridled warfare is a tool to create complete government domination over the populace of the people. Biblical government “of the people” cannot rightly take the wealth of the taxpayers to pass it out to whomever they choose. Every liberal issue is a Biblical issue. The liberals do not just want more government control; they want total government control because that is the Babylonian idea of one-world control. It is war against God and if they win, God’s kingdom loses. This cannot happen except in a limited fashion and for a limited time. But, if and when it does happen, you have nothing less than the horrors experienced by the Soviet Union until it destroys itself. The liberals of America will destroy this nation unless they are stopped. And the only reason they can win is if we fail to engage them in a spiritual battle by the power of God and His Word. Wake up, my friends, and join the war.

The Religious War Against God

As bad as it is to watch the liberal crowd rage war against truth, it is even worse to watch the church world do the same. Removing the Ten Commandments from public life would have ended long ago if the church had not followed suit. Removing prayer from our public schools could not have succeeded if the church had not stopped praying. A church on its knees can change every aspect of its society. It’s invincible. Now, the liberal churches in America are anti-God and apparently unaware of their sick condition. The evangelicals and fundamentalists are following suit at neck-break speed...

Much more at link.


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Received the above via email this afternoon and it struck me like a bolt of lightning because of its timeliness and what I've been trying to say about the collectivist war on God. Don't know anything about this ministry or the rest of his message, but find much to agree on in this excerpt.
1 posted on 04/05/2014 2:41:12 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson

In a just a few years led by the homosexual Barry Soetoro, the Eloi have become the Morlocks.

H.G. Wells wrote in The Time machine, that in the far future, humans would devolve into their lowest form. Here we see this bleak prediction taking shape in the form of the degenerate, hedonist, homosexuals. It is only a matter of time that we will see the rest of society self destruct. After the homosexual Morlocks take over, it will be on to the next phase of debauchery.

At its nadir, you will see Obama issue an executive order to the Department of Education. A new policy to be implemented by Common Core, directed to all teachers in primary school, the mandatory instruction to all children the fine arts of cannibalism.

That is our destiny. That is our future. The end of humankind and the beginning of the Planet of the Apes.


2 posted on 04/05/2014 2:48:58 PM PDT by Flavious_Maximus
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To: Jim Robinson
He wrote,“Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing? The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, saying, Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us.” (Psalms 2:1-3)

This "war on God" is nothing new. In fact, the fulfillment of this prophecy of David is found in Acts 4.
3 posted on 04/05/2014 2:49:03 PM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: Jim Robinson
Of course Nietzsche aggravated the majority with his declaration, but ‘God is dead,’ sadly rings true to those who rule the world.
4 posted on 04/05/2014 2:50:49 PM PDT by deadrock (I am someone else.)
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To: Jim Robinson

That is a wonderful post/sermon. It is truly a war against the one true God. The falling away of most of our churches into heresy and apostacy has what has allowed this to happen, just as the author says. This is not just the liberal mainline churches that fell away in the mid 20th century but now the “hip”, “cool” evangelical megachurches that feel they must entertain people and that they must not “offend” anyone. When they stopped preaching God’s truth, it allowed the forces of evil to push back and win. I pray that people will look for good, solid churches where pastors are not afraid to preach the whole of God’s truth as found in scripture.


5 posted on 04/05/2014 2:50:59 PM PDT by boxlunch (Psalm 2)
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To: deadrock

The movie “God is not Dead” is very good, if it is playing near you you might try to see it. It depicts a Christian young man standing up against an atheist college professor.


6 posted on 04/05/2014 2:59:29 PM PDT by boxlunch (Psalm 2)
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To: Jim Robinson

Thanks. Good timing. This article is very germane, spot on, to discussions I’ve been having today with atheists and agnostics who are for abortion, and oppose God with their every breath.

Thanks for the pick me up. I needed it. It is amazing who God works through and how timely he is at reaching us in our moments of need. All you have to do is believe. And listen.


7 posted on 04/05/2014 3:01:03 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Free goodies for all -- Freedom for none.)
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To: boxlunch

I second that.


8 posted on 04/05/2014 3:04:21 PM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

It’s ghastly the spell. The spell was invited. It’s anchored in original sin.

People are going to have to believe, not in mere “values,” but personally in God, to fight back against this miasma. And even then it won’t be easy. Possible, yes. Easy, no.


9 posted on 04/05/2014 3:06:20 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Just a reminder to those who speak of giving up the fight.

That may be the worst sin or all. Not only does it betray the nation, Christianity, and oneself, its a betrayal of God. At the end of it all God will judge us as individuals. I surely don’t want to explain that I gave up because it was just too hard to keep fighting.


10 posted on 04/05/2014 3:16:05 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

A refocus will be necessary. We can’t presume to “save a country.” The good Lord may or may not present us with an opportunity to do that. He knows what kind of people He has appointed to be here today and for all we may know it’s selected from mostly permanent reprobates. (I am not here arguing for Calvinism, but for eternal perspective.)

Still, to care enough for Christ that you will want to share His good news to every uncertain soul whether going through thick or thin, that’s the ticket. In the end it ain’t about us. It’s about the good Lord. We are among the beneficiaries. The Lord will always honor that.


11 posted on 04/05/2014 3:37:05 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Saw ‘Noah’ this afternoon. Attended with family members. I apologized to my granddaughter for taking her to such a hilarious farce of a movie. We decided Al Gore must have written the screenplay. The movie is a pathetic mockery.


12 posted on 04/05/2014 3:38:04 PM PDT by abclily
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To: Jim Robinson

Thanks for posting this JimRob...I did not read it all. But, its a great place to keep in dialogue.
St. Paul said we wrestle not against flesh and blood but against principalities and powers of darkness. And this is becoming more and more evident to more people as Christians seem to keep taking it on the chin.
The Book says God wins. Which is good news, but its certainly going to be a long bumpy road for followers of the Word!
Freegards
LEX


13 posted on 04/05/2014 3:38:41 PM PDT by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: abclily

Al Gore might have ghostwritten the plot, who knows?!


14 posted on 04/05/2014 3:38:48 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

We save the country by saving ourselves.


15 posted on 04/05/2014 3:47:26 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Great article. Thanks for posting that. Those “churches” that allow those who blatantly promote anti Biblical acts and beliefs to remain members will pay a heavy price.


16 posted on 04/05/2014 3:50:07 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: cripplecreek

We can’t save ourselves.


17 posted on 04/05/2014 3:53:57 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Jim Robinson
Great find that deserves/needs further study and thought.

Thanks for this very timely gift!

18 posted on 04/05/2014 3:57:41 PM PDT by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
The Holy Ghost warned us in the prophesies of David. He wrote,“Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing? The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, saying, Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us.”

I have often wondered what motivates these people. I can understand people being passive in their opposition to God. The people described here, are not passive at all, but are active, vehement and militant in their opposition to God. I guess it is the mystery of sin. By raging, maybe they are just practicing for eternity, when they will rage at God forever :-)

19 posted on 04/05/2014 4:41:22 PM PDT by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Vet 70-71 Msgt US Air Force, retired)
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To: Jim Robinson; All

The Armor of God

Ephesians 6:10 Finally, be strong in the Lord and in his mighty power. 11 Put on the full armor of God, so that you can take your stand against the devil’s schemes. 12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. 13 Therefore put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything, to stand. 14 Stand firm then, with the belt of truth buckled around your waist, with the breastplate of righteousness in place, 15 and with your feet fitted with the readiness that comes from the gospel of peace. 16 In addition to all this, take up the shield of faith, with which you can extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one. 17 Take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God.

18 And pray in the Spirit on all occasions with all kinds of prayers and requests. With this in mind, be alert and always keep on praying for all the Lord’s people.


20 posted on 04/05/2014 4:49:17 PM PDT by Errant (Surround yourself with intelligent and industrious people who help and support each other.)
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To: Jim Robinson
Sorry, Mr. Robinson. The premise of the e-mail, and its proposed solutions to fighting the war against God are flawed.

The so-called war may look like war, and it may sound like war, but these are symptoms of something worse--much worse.

I know people's eyes glaze over and are uncomfortable when the Scriptures are quoted--but I trust the Truth of Scripture much more than I trust the observations such as contained in the Paw Ministries e-mail.

Romans 1:18 and the verses following are very clear: When God has placed his Divine judgment on a society, bad things being to happen to that society.

The common view is that when when we get too much evil, sin, and sinfulness--such as the collapse of personal integrity, truth, homosexuality, hate of God, no grace in the individual, ungodly lusts in the body, grotesque forms of worship, revolution and revolt, unforgiving hate, murder, slander, arrogance, and many other forms of godless behavior,--that we are in danger of falling under the enmity and judgment of God. (I see this argument and point-of-view over and over again in many posts on Free Republic.)

But the point of the Romans passage is that these sins and this kind of sinfulness in a society comes about because God has already placed the society under judgment.

The answer is NOT fighting against others who are doing these things, the homosexuals and race haters and baiters, the Jesse Jacksons, the Harry Reids and Pelosis, the Sharptons, and others whom conservatives view as enemies--and hence, the people who are bringing this kind of society on top of our heads. The Romans passage also says that, when God has judged a society, then man and women will encourage others to be wicked and sinful, and they will believe that they are doing right.

And, the passage says, people who are under judgment believe they are wise. But God thinks they are fools. What else can explain why Whoopi Goldberg and Rachel Maddow, and others can think that abortion, the killing of babies, is a good thing; that the matter of allowing elders to suffer and die is acceptable; that children can be arrested and sold and sexually abused, as Mabla does; except that they are fools.

Scripture, in II Chronicles 7:14 and verses following make it clear that those who claim to be God's people, the good guys, must start with themselves in repentence, prayer, the seeking of God's presence in the individual's life, then God will be stirred to begin the Divine process of healing our nation and our land.

But, even within Conservative circles, there are those who believe that heeding Scripture and the Will of God as is expressed in Scripture is needless or just plain stupid. Just watch the reaction to my post by many at Free Republic.

Scripture, not Paw Ministries, proclaims the acceptable standards and Will of God. But sadly, man will not heed its proclamations.
21 posted on 04/05/2014 4:51:19 PM PDT by righttackle44 (Take scalps. Leave the bodies as a warning.)
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To: Mark17

Well, it’s devil driven. When the devil can’t get away with blasphemy, he has to make do with people not caring. Then when enough people don’t care, the blasphemy begins. The devil wants one thing only and that’s to brag against God and to get as many people as he can to do the same thing. And when this bragging becomes impossible, he rages. Hell wins a miserable victory — it forever snatches itself out of the love of God.


22 posted on 04/05/2014 5:01:06 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: righttackle44

Can it be that BOTH are true, and it is not an either/or.

Wickedness leads to alienation from God’s love which leads to worse wickedness and so in on a vicious circle. And yet a choice remains: will a person treat this as an escalator to willingly take down to hell in ultimate defiance, or will a person treat it as a lesson to their previously willfully deafened ears?

You can’t cherry pick scripture. You have to also heed such statements that “God does not willingly grieve the sons of men.” So often, two factions fight because they have emphasized one side of the picture to the exclusion of the other. But if something has to win out, consider this: God “is” love, but God “has” wrath.


23 posted on 04/05/2014 5:10:43 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: righttackle44

But yet I’d agree on something. We can’t beat fools in the power of the flesh. They must be addressed in the power of the gospel. Everybody is a fool; the only question is how bad a fool is he.

The economy of law, of deserving, can only spiral down to hell in worse and worse judgment. But the economy of grace, of salvation merited not by the sinner but by Christ, can pull any willing person out of the spiral.

Be careful about sleight of hand in drawing conclusions.


24 posted on 04/05/2014 5:19:28 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Jim Robinson

All liberals lack is the power to make it happen. And the tipping point is approaching.

25 posted on 04/05/2014 5:55:32 PM PDT by stinkerpot65 (Global warming is a Marxist lie.)
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To: Jim Robinson

What is The book, God Chasers about?


26 posted on 04/05/2014 6:07:54 PM PDT by MNDude
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To: righttackle44; Jim Robinson

Sorry righttackle44, but I remember the 60s. There were good things then, but we also had hippies, free love, riots in the streets, crime, etc. Remember the Detroit riots - over 40 dead, and over 2000 buildings destroyed? Remember colleges being taken over by radicals? Remember how many resorted to drugs & sex and abandoned everything the previous generation believed?

Yet God sent revival.

It is not our place to decide God will no longer do anything for us. We need to pray for revival based on repentance.

The fault of the churches wasn’t in giving up scripture based theology. Some did, and they shrank. The fault was believing we were invincible, that God would never need to judge America, and that we could win a moral fight using politics instead of relying on the life-changing power of God.

These dark days ought to humble us, and remind us to meet together and beg God for revival. I was one of the many who repented and received life during the “Jesus People” revival. We need to focus on God, and beg for Him to move again.


27 posted on 04/05/2014 6:08:14 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (I sooooo miss America!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Get your survivalist house in order .
Be ready. The Lord loves His warriors.


28 posted on 04/05/2014 6:14:05 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: Jim Robinson
Your family needs a priest that stands in the door of your home and says, “Wait a minute, devil. I’m in charge around here.”

One respectful disagreement with this sentence. I'm the head of my household, and I DO stand in the door of my home with a similar prayer, but I say "Wait a minute, devil. The Lord Jesus Christ is in charge around here."

29 posted on 04/05/2014 6:25:04 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: righttackle44

Well, I’m no biblical scholar and am lost in scripture, but my complaint is that our unlawful government is using the “force of law” to destroy our society and our constitution and our liberty. My feeling is in order to complete their mission of transforming America into a godless totalitarian state and perhaps later merge it into a world government, they must first destroy all traces of God from the public square and even from our minds and hearts.

They must brainwash the children starting at the youngest age possible (and they’re doing it). They are removing the word of God and all traces of the Christian religion from all government institutions including federal, state and local governments, public buildings, schools and possibly even churches and replacing it with love of mother earth, the animal kingdom (of which, according to them, man is just another species that can be bred, herded, worked and slaughtered at will), environmentalism, darwinism, collectivism, atheism, abortionism, homosexualism, sodomy, fornication and evil of just about any nature.

I’m pretty sure the bible mentions something to the effect that calling good evil and evil good is a bad thing and that nations or societies that do this or allow it are going to be bound for dark places. Well, we’re nearly there as a nation. And I’m not willing to be plunged into total darkness without a fight. Maybe I don’t have much to fight with but I intend to resist to the end.

The author of this piece says the end has already been written and God wins. I believe that. And my understanding is that God is also the beginning. We can influence nothing but the present and not much of that, but I’m not ready to surrender. We have no way of knowing how much longer our nation will continue, but I believe we need to try to reverse its present course for as long as it does.

Maybe God doesn’t want us to fight individually for our nation, and maybe we should be concerned only for our own souls, but I doubt it. And maybe the end is already here and we have already been judged and are already headed for hell and it’s irreversible... but I say fight on anyway. Not saying the scripture is stupid, but fight on just in case the conclusion has been misinterpreted. Fight on until the world goes dark, just in case it’s not too late. I’m pretty certain God will deal with us on his time.


30 posted on 04/05/2014 6:47:13 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: COBOL2Java

Good point.


31 posted on 04/05/2014 7:18:54 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Christians need to vote and campaign for laws and elected government that reflect traditional American values.

We need to roll back the left’s gains of the last 50 years.

If you vote, then vote as a Christian, and never, never, try to deceive Christians into not voting as Christians, the Christian/conservative vote is the only hope for this nation, and to restore our culture and return to our limited government.

Big government feeds on social liberalism and acceptance of social and moral decay.

Do not fall prey to the libertarian efforts to remove God and traditional Americanism from our political decisions.

When a candidate tells you to drop opposition to social liberalism, then reject that politician.


32 posted on 04/05/2014 8:45:57 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: ansel12

I see lots of Christian-flavored hot air here.

You know the bible talks about a form of religion but denying its power.

Show me someone who actually walks the walk of small government better than Paul currently is. I say this to the shame of modern American Christendom.

A government that is big enough to spread moral decay is too big. Period!


33 posted on 04/05/2014 11:39:43 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I see it as well, people fighting for libertarianism and gay marriage, drugs etc, by pretending that it is the Christian thing to do, to NOT vote vote conservative and pro-life, and pro-marriage, and pro-conservative, because if you do, the claim is that somehow that is unChristian.

Evidently you can’t be a Christian, and be conservative, is the claim.

Cruz walks the walk to small government, Paul walks the walk to social liberalism, and large government.

socail conservatism, creates liberal voters, social conservatism creates conservative, small government voters.

Don’t hide a liberal agenda behind hot air, shouting GOD!! while fighting God and fighting conservatism.

If you want to change the laws promoting social decay, then you have to elect leaders who will, not one who tells you to give up that fight, erase that goal from your party, and who’s social liberalism will only lead to more big government.


34 posted on 04/05/2014 11:51:36 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: ansel12

Can you prove that Cruz outdoes Paul as far as government virtue is concerned? If you steal more but commit adultery less, does that make you better?


35 posted on 04/05/2014 11:53:36 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: ansel12

Until I see you quote something out of Cruz that shows red meat in reducing government, I will continue to treat him as a joke in that category compared to Paul. You have theory that you don’t even TRY to join together. You just make flat statements.


36 posted on 04/05/2014 11:55:02 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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Yes but you go back to your 10 year fight for gay marriage, Paul came out with a position supporting gay marriage and social liberalism.

You have had this proven to you over and over, and you just keep going back to your same pro-gay marriage arguments.

The old Ted Kennedy defense, “I’m not personally anti-God, and for gay marriage, abortion, drugs, social decay and social liberalism but........I am going to fight conservatives and conservatism to my last breath”.


37 posted on 04/05/2014 11:59:45 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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My ten year fight for gay marriage.

How about your 50 meter long Pinocchio nose??


38 posted on 04/06/2014 12:02:56 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: ansel12

(Which nose grew 5 meters with your last remark about me.)


39 posted on 04/06/2014 12:07:57 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

You weren’t using the God angle yet, but you were already calling social conservatives, nanny staters, in fact that was the phrase you were obsessed with, as you promoted the radical and bizarre libertarian party.


40 posted on 04/06/2014 12:09:10 AM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: ansel12

Nanny state people were in fact a big problem a decade ago. And no I never used that with respect to folks who wanted to, say, keep sodomy bans. I dare you to prove that I did if you think so; otherwise you owe me an apology as long as your nose.


41 posted on 04/06/2014 12:10:54 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

From Ron Paul, to Rand Paul.

Today, you have adopted the strategy of moving God away from the Christians and social conservatives, over to the pro-Sodom and Gomorrah, libertarians.

To: ansel12
Well if you want statist social conservatives you will find none in the libertarians.

If you want BIBLE faithful people, you’ll find a LOT and you will also find they do not appreciate the blasphemy from you.
304 posted on 11/12/2013 1:59:10 PM by HiTech RedNeck


42 posted on 04/06/2014 12:12:47 AM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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Dare you identify the thread?

The trouble is you don’t know the difference between grinding an axe and actual wisdom.

A government which pretends it can interdict more than a joke’s worth of drugs is going to need to be so big and have such sweeping distortions of the Constitution that all the powers will be there for homosexuals to abuse in demanding gay marriage. You can’t have one intrusion power without the other.


43 posted on 04/06/2014 12:18:20 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: ansel12

Or, as we used to keep warning liberals, “A government big enough to give you what you want is also big enough to take it away.”

A government which can legislate religion today can ban it tomorrow.


44 posted on 04/06/2014 12:22:09 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3090045/posts?page=304#304

The federal government just started gay marriage in the military and federal employment and immigration, you want to leave it there, just as you have fought for all of the governemnets moves to the left on social issues.

Your lame attempts to fight social conservatives by telling them that the continuing destruction of America and conservatism and limited government through social liberalism, IS fighting for small government, is bizarre, so bizarre, that a few years ago, you started the GOD!!! angle.

Your social liberalism is big government, for instance gay marriage in the military and federal employees and immigration, will prove to be a HUGE next step in larger government.


45 posted on 04/06/2014 12:28:22 AM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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attempts to fight social conservatives by telling them that the continuing destruction of America and conservatism and limited government through social liberalism, IS fighting for small government,

You are the one who is being continuously bizarre. I say we do not need to police every single moral issue at the level of scapegoating the creation. That many such issues can, as from the founding, be left between man and God, which is not a new theme -- it is a very old one! As just two examples, people were not forbidden alcohol; they were forbidden to exhibit drunkenness in public. People were not forbidden to buy poisons; they were forbidden to use them to poison people. Actual responsibility for what you did -- not for what you had that someone else just fears you will do wrong with.

46 posted on 04/06/2014 12:33:04 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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I’m telling the Ansel brand of social conservative that he is busy shooting himself in the foot. “Gay marriage” never was an issue until finally you guys, with your busybody ways of banning this inanimate item, that inanimate item, the other inanimate item, got a government so powerful it could order a state to support “gay marriage.” NOW, the lid was off of Pandora’s box. And you pried at its hinges.


47 posted on 04/06/2014 12:39:03 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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I say we do not need to police every single moral issue at the level of scapegoating the creation. That many such issues can, as from the founding, be left between man and God, which is not a new theme -- it is a very old one!

Then why is there thread after thread of you fighting tooth and nail to protect the new laws creating gay marriage and abortion, of mocking pro-lifers, and people against gay marriage in the military, and mocking God by pretending to speak for God as you mock conservatives fighting to end abortion and protect marriage?

48 posted on 04/06/2014 12:39:34 AM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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Because I do not agree on the agent, you say I don’t agree on the goal?

It is YOU who are fighting foolishly and who will reap the opposite of your stated desire.


49 posted on 04/06/2014 12:40:49 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Look at your post 47.

Just as you were pushing social liberalism 10 years ago, today you revel in your success, and fight any efforts to roll it back, and you mock the successes that Christians do have.

Post 47 was gloating, and still more opposition to conservative politics.


50 posted on 04/06/2014 12:45:26 AM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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