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Christie's proposed e-cigarette tax is for public health, state treasurer says
nj.com ^ | 04/03/14 | Matt Friedman

Posted on 04/05/2014 2:51:41 PM PDT by DallasBiff

TRENTON — Gov. Chris Christie’s administration wants to increase taxes on electronic cigarettes for the sake of the public’s health, state Treasurer Andrew Sidamon-Eristoff said today.

“Our goal is to achieve rough parity with the tax burden on conventional cigarettes. Why? Our main concern is public health,” Sidamon-Eristoff said at an Assembly Budget Committee hearing today. “Contrary to the claims of some users, e-cigarettes have not been shown to be a ‘safe’ alternative to regular cigarettes. Nor are they a proven path to smoking cessation.”

Christie’s budget anticipates $35 million in revenue by applying the $2.70 per pack regular state tax on cigarettes to the electronic cigarettes, which deliver nicotine in the form of water vapor. Users of the products have flooded recent Senate and Assembly budget committee meetings to oppose the tax.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: chrischristie; ecigs; gope; krispykreme; nannystate; rino; tobacco; trenton
Gov. Christie would be squealing like a pig if someone taxed his donuts, like he taxes tobacco and e-cigarettes.
1 posted on 04/05/2014 2:51:42 PM PDT by DallasBiff
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To: DallasBiff

Hey, Fatso: Real conservatives don’t advocate higher taxes.


2 posted on 04/05/2014 2:58:01 PM PDT by clintonh8r (Don't give up! The liberals are buggering and aborting themselves into extinction.)
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To: DallasBiff

Nanny fat boi.


3 posted on 04/05/2014 3:01:15 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: DallasBiff

Christie be gone.


4 posted on 04/05/2014 3:02:17 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: DallasBiff
"Our goal is to achieve rough parity with the tax burden on conventional cigarettes. Why? Our main concern is public health,"

If believe buy that story, I have a bridge....

5 posted on 04/05/2014 3:02:24 PM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: DallasBiff

Ah yes.... Mr. Nanny State himself lettings know what is good for us


6 posted on 04/05/2014 3:02:51 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: DallasBiff

If I ever needed a reason to drop Christie fro0m a presidential run this tax will do it. Did anyone tell the dope these E smokes will save millions in health care costs.


7 posted on 04/05/2014 3:03:57 PM PDT by chatham
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To: DallasBiff

Second hand water vapor? Before any one runs in here to complain about health care costs. Smokers pay more for insurance. Always have and I am DAMN sick of Chris Christie and all these other jerks telling me what I can and can not do. Just get your supplie over the internet. Screw New Jersey.


8 posted on 04/05/2014 3:09:06 PM PDT by defconw (Well now what?)
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To: DallasBiff

e-cigarettes have not been shown to be a ‘safe’ alternative to regular cigarettes. Nor are they a proven path to smoking cessation.”


Where’s the proof? Anyone get cancer from e-cigs?


9 posted on 04/05/2014 3:10:47 PM PDT by RginTN
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To: DallasBiff

How does the confiscation of $35,000,000.00 improve public health? If “smoking” ecigarettes harms people, taking money from them doesn’t help.


10 posted on 04/05/2014 3:15:10 PM PDT by JudyinCanada
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To: DallasBiff

This is pure out and out lying, not health.


11 posted on 04/05/2014 3:27:20 PM PDT by umgud
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To: DallasBiff
Dear God,
Thank you for having kept me from ever having set foot in New Jersey, and I pray Your wise hand guides me ever thus.
Love,

Laz

12 posted on 04/05/2014 3:32:46 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: DallasBiff
Sidamon-Eristoff said at an Assembly Budget Committee hearing today. “Contrary to the claims of some users, e-cigarettes have not been shown to be a ‘safe’ alternative to regular cigarettes. Nor are they a proven path to smoking cessation.”

Nor have you shown them to be unsafe. Nor have you shown that they have to be a "path to smoking cessation" to be a legal product. You're nothing more than another lying totalitarian. FOAD and take your fat RINO with you!

13 posted on 04/05/2014 3:36:53 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: DallasBiff

The iron law of supply and demand. An increase in price results in a decrease in demand.

That’s a good thing if the drug delivery device is being use by kids.


14 posted on 04/05/2014 3:36:58 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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Drug delivery device.

Drug extractor and concentrator.

15 posted on 04/05/2014 3:42:17 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: DallasBiff

nobody’s claiming e-cigarettes are a path to cessation, but many people do quit smoking, or smoke cigarettes less frequently, once they switch to e-cigarettes.

The problem with cigarettes themselves (besides ugly butts on the beach from people who are too stupid to field-strip their smokes) has always been radioactivity picked up by the plants’ roots:

http://scienceblog.cancerresearchuk.org/2012/05/24/tobacco-firms-have-failed-to-act-on-radioactivity-in-cigarettes-heres-why/

Besides nicotine, the liquid components of e-cigarettes are already in widespread use in injectibles, asthma inhalers, lotions, creams, soft-tissue ointments and in food as moisteners. I don’t know for certain about chinese nicotine, but the nicotine produced by USA-based dedicated labs that have come online recently is generally a synthetic, and so, hopefully, addresses the issue of polonium radioactivity.

It would seem if the real problem was, indeed, ‘public safety,’ presumed presidential candidate Christie would try to do us all a favor by pushing for investigative testing now to ensure that those who wish to escape the products of Big Tobacco, in fact, can, and with a safe product. Instead, all he wants is money to make up for the lack of real cigarette sales. It’s a cheap political trick - and beneath him.


16 posted on 04/05/2014 3:43:50 PM PDT by blueplum
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To: DallasBiff
Portly puss-bag...
17 posted on 04/05/2014 4:02:16 PM PDT by MileHi
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To: TigersEye

With half the country out of work or stuck in a lousy job because that’s the best they can find. Russia on the move. Mideast in flames. GDP flatlined.....and our politicians from Rahm to Durbin to Christie spend their time worrying about e-cigs. Can we just horsewhip one of them?


18 posted on 04/05/2014 4:10:42 PM PDT by Blackirish
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To: DallasBiff

Chubs can take responsibility for those who are weaning themselves off tobacco and now he makes it more difficult.

Good job chubby!


19 posted on 04/05/2014 4:14:16 PM PDT by dforest
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To: DallasBiff
There was an article posted here a few week ago from one of the New York newspapers. The article said that nearly 60% of the cigarettes sold in New York are contraband from other states where the taxes are much lower.

The same thing is happening in New Jersey. Christie's a fool if he thinks this is going to raise that kind of revenue.

20 posted on 04/05/2014 4:36:26 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I've never seen such a conclave of minstrels in my life.")
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To: Blackirish

Can’t really afford it ... but I’ll buy the whip.


21 posted on 04/05/2014 4:56:16 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: Drango
It's no more a "drug deliver device" than Coke, Pepsi, Sweet Tea, Twinkies, Candy Bars, Coors, A Keg, Cigar, or a slurpie.

If I can be trusted to have a bottle of shiny blue windex in my house, I think I can keep my vaporizer and guns out of reach of my kids. Kids have always reached for cigarettes because they aren't supposed to. This is no different and it doesn't require EPA or other regulatory efforts to make a law prohibiting sale to kids.

22 posted on 04/05/2014 5:05:17 PM PDT by FunkyZero (... I've got a Grand Piano to prop up my mortal remains)
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To: DallasBiff

Bee & Ess ! And I’m not talking about ‘Aunt Bea’ either.


23 posted on 04/05/2014 5:09:32 PM PDT by lee martell
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To: DallasBiff

What the chubby RINO really means is TAX MONEY to spend!


24 posted on 04/05/2014 5:36:46 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Unintended Consequences: Expanded Autism Spectrum now includes the entire Obama Administration)
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To: DallasBiff

we all know this has nothing to do with safety, it’s all about the tax money.

and a fat-ass RINO is the one to prove us right.


25 posted on 04/05/2014 6:48:51 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: RginTN

,funny they got my mom off smoking real cigs.


26 posted on 04/05/2014 6:49:28 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Lazamataz

now you have to pray that nobody from new jersey sets foot in your area to mess up where you live.


27 posted on 04/05/2014 6:50:16 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: FunkyZero
It's no more a "drug deliver device" than Coke, Pepsi, Sweet Tea, Twinkies, Candy Bars, Coors, A Keg, Cigar, or a slurpie.

Sure. You've got a strong argument there. I urge you to continue to use it as it speaks truth, common sense, and it will resonate with the people.

28 posted on 04/05/2014 7:06:11 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: DallasBiff
Gov. Chris Christie’s administration wants to increase taxes on electronic cigarettes for the sake of the public’s health...
“Our goal is to achieve rough parity with the tax burden on conventional cigarettes.

Those two statements are diametrically opposed, and contradictory.
Mindless bureaucracies and elected criminals can't shed that ol' "because we can" gene...

Can't be bothered with the fact that e-cigarettes are available 100% nicotine free.
Under those circumstances, using the word "parity" is beyond a cynical joke!

29 posted on 04/05/2014 10:19:29 PM PDT by publius911 ( At least Nixon had the good g race to resign!)
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To: DallasBiff; SheLion; Eric Blair 2084; -YYZ-; 31R1O; 383rr; AFreeBird; AGreatPer; Alamo-Girl; ...

He apparently is also trying to plug a budget hole with this measure.

Nanny State PING!


30 posted on 05/06/2014 5:43:26 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (The PASSING LANE is for PASSING, not DAWDLING)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Thanks for the ping!


31 posted on 05/06/2014 7:36:44 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: DallasBiff

The fat piece of crap is the last person who needs to be lecturing people about health.


32 posted on 05/06/2014 7:38:16 PM PDT by dfwgator
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