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AF vice commander relieved after sending 'unprofessional' emails
Stars and Stripes ^ | April 5, 2014 | By Sig Christenson

Posted on 04/05/2014 8:22:57 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar

The vice commander of the Air Force's 12th Flying Training Wing at Joint Base San Antonio-Randolph has been relieved after investigators learned he exchanged emails with the wife of a subordinate officer.

The messages were sent in 2007 while Col. James Gifford Jr. served at Vance AFB in Oklahoma, where he was director of operations with the 8th Flying Training Squadron. A major at the time, he rose to lieutenant colonel in October of that year and was the squadron's commander from 2009 to 2010.

He left the base to become military assistant to Defense Secretary Robert Gates.

“The internal investigation found no evidence of a sexual relationship between the two people involved,” the Air Education and Training Command said in a statement. “However, the correspondence sent between them was determined to be unprofessional and Colonel Gifford showed poor judgment as an Air Force member, leading to his commander's decision to remove him from his post.”

The Air Force said the 12th Flying Training Wing's commander, Col. Gerald Goodfellow, relieved Gifford, a fighter and tanker pilot with more than 3,500 hours in the air, on March 24.

The action was taken because of a “loss of confidence in his ability to lead” the wing, but the statement did not explain how the emails were unprofessional. The Air Force did not elaborate after the San Antonio Express-News sent a list of questions asking about the nature of the messages, citing “privacy rights and concerns.”

The Air Force also wouldn't say how many messages were exchanged and said it has not been determined why the email relationship ended. An AETC spokeswoman, Amy Bartholomew, did say that Gifford did not review the officer's performance evaluations.

Gifford was reassigned to AETC's headquarters. His abrupt exit apparently marks the first time a vice commander at the wing has been relieved. Bartholomew said she did not know of an incident like it.

A relationship involving commanders and the wives of their subordinates - even by electronic mail — would be highly unusual and strictly prohibited.

“Unprofessional relationships, particularly by Air Force leaders, stand to undermine our entire team, damage good order and discipline, and threaten the trust people have in us,” the AETC statement said. “They simply aren't tolerated.”

A graduate of Rutgers University, Gifford came to the 12th Flying Training Wing in June 2012 after graduating from the Marine Corps War College, where he was honored for submitting the best thesis.

The Randolph-based wing, with 1,456 military and civilian workers, trains instructor pilots, combat systems officers and those who will fly drone aircraft. It also screens Air Force officers who enter pilot, combat systems and drone aircraft training, and has an average of 745 students a day.


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1 posted on 04/05/2014 8:22:57 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: blueyon; KitJ; T Minus Four; xzins; CMS; The Sailor; ab01; txradioguy; Jet Jaguar; Defender2; ...

Active Duty ping


2 posted on 04/05/2014 8:23:42 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: Nachum

Ping.


3 posted on 04/05/2014 8:24:11 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: Jet Jaguar

Purge continues ?


4 posted on 04/05/2014 8:25:58 PM PDT by Squantos ( Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Sigh, the head on the shoulders is the one for thinking.....


5 posted on 04/05/2014 8:26:36 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ((If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: Jet Jaguar

jerk

needs to keep it in his pants

what an embarrassment to his family


6 posted on 04/05/2014 8:26:56 PM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Clowns. One would think after all that has happened around JBSA ‘they’ would get squared away.


7 posted on 04/05/2014 8:27:38 PM PDT by Theoria (End Socialism : No more GOP and Dem candidates)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Didn’t get to see Vance when I last went through there but I did go past Tinker AFB several weeks ago and walked around the static displays.


8 posted on 04/05/2014 8:29:03 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: Jet Jaguar

When they are cutting staff, the littlest thing will be used to getcha.


9 posted on 04/05/2014 8:29:31 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (If you want to keep your dignity, you can keep it. Period........ Just kidding, you can't keep it.)
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To: Theoria
'Clowns. One would think after all that has happened around JBSA ‘they’ would get squared away.'

2007. Ouch. Nevermind.

10 posted on 04/05/2014 8:29:52 PM PDT by Theoria (End Socialism : No more GOP and Dem candidates)
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To: Jet Jaguar

It continues...

Here is an article from 9 months ago...

Obama’s Purge: Military Officers Replaced Under the Commander-in-Chief
http://www.ijreview.com/2013/06/62053-president-obamas-purge-military-officers-replaced-by-the-commander-in-chief/


11 posted on 04/05/2014 8:30:02 PM PDT by WVKayaker ("Help spread the good news; we can send helpmates to the good guys in D.C." -Sarah Palin, March 13)
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To: Jet Jaguar

The purge of officers not deemed loyal to Obama continues. If you wonder what that NSA info is used for, here’s an example.


12 posted on 04/05/2014 8:30:20 PM PDT by kaehurowing (FIGHT BULLYING, UNINSTALL FIREFOX)
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To: Theoria

Yeah, except this crap happened seven years ago. No statute of limitations in the Air Force, huh.

Something else here.


13 posted on 04/05/2014 8:30:31 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (If you want to keep your dignity, you can keep it. Period........ Just kidding, you can't keep it.)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Being in charge of Vice, it sounds like it’s all right up his alley.....


14 posted on 04/05/2014 8:30:38 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: yldstrk

Do you really think that was the real reason?

There’s a good chance he didn’t even write those emails.


15 posted on 04/05/2014 8:32:47 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Jet Jaguar
One wonders why the investigation even started.

The Air Force also wouldn't say how many messages were exchanged and said it has not been determined why the email relationship ended.

He broke it off (woman scorned)?

16 posted on 04/05/2014 8:32:56 PM PDT by grobdriver (Where is Wilson Blair when you need him?)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Who is going through 7 year old emails to find stuff like this?

I’m not defending the guy, but SEVEN years?

Looks to me like they wanted to get rid of the guy so they went through his entire career looking for something to nail him with.


17 posted on 04/05/2014 8:33:37 PM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: Jonty30

snort

if you say so


18 posted on 04/05/2014 8:33:49 PM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: yldstrk

What colour is the sky in your world?

We are now talking about a few dozen commanders, or more, being relieved of duty since Obama took over. Do you really honestly believe that every single one of them have done things that warranted being relieved of command?


19 posted on 04/05/2014 8:36:05 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Jet Jaguar; All

You know, the Navy had it’s problems with the whole “Tailhook” party scene years ago...You don’t hear much about it anymore...And that was mainly involving “hired” help, and gold wing chasers, not so much the wives of other officers in that branch of service, IIRC...

What is it about the Air Force now that has these officers making poor decisions and getting caught communicating like this over open and easily investigated channels???

I see the training wing is part of the drone training program as well...I guess you need to purify the bodily fluids from the new officer classes before they get any ideas about questioning any immoral orders concerning domestic surveillance and support of unlawful searches and seizures...

The perks associated with that kind of unquestioning support come later in those careers...

Ehhhhh, why should anyone really care...Nothing can really stop this agenda anyway...


20 posted on 04/05/2014 8:36:30 PM PDT by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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To: Squantos

I dunno if it is an actual purge. Perhaps, we are just hearing of this more because it is being reported more.

But, it is very unusual in my eyes.


21 posted on 04/05/2014 8:37:18 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: Jet Jaguar
Is it just me, or are these "loss of confidence" reasons getting thinner and thinner?

What is this one, that the guy sent emails to the wife of a subordinate?

And yet, we have the gay push for acceptance while purging anyone who shows heterosexual activity?

-PJ

22 posted on 04/05/2014 8:37:44 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: Jet Jaguar

If the truth were known, I’ll bet it wasn’t the emails to a “subordinate officer’s wife” from seven years ago that got him. I’ll bet it has something to do with the Kenyan. JMO.


23 posted on 04/05/2014 8:39:08 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The debate, ANY DEBATE, is NEVER OVER!)
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To: Jet Jaguar

at least he was involved with the opposite sex


24 posted on 04/05/2014 8:40:08 PM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

I think you may be on to something. Maybe like a continuing purge. But, time will tell.


25 posted on 04/05/2014 8:40:58 PM PDT by sport
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To: Jonty30

well Patreaus sure as hell did


26 posted on 04/05/2014 8:40:58 PM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Jonty30

Yes.

Prove otherwise.


27 posted on 04/05/2014 8:41:56 PM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: Bryan24

My thought also, that was a long time ago.


28 posted on 04/05/2014 8:44:21 PM PDT by phormer phrog phlyer
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To: Political Junkie Too

Very unusual in my eyes.


29 posted on 04/05/2014 8:44:46 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: Squantos

My thoughts also.


30 posted on 04/05/2014 8:45:41 PM PDT by sport
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To: kaehurowing

This guy was an aid to Gates. I doubt he is anti-obama.


31 posted on 04/05/2014 8:51:06 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: WVKayaker

The purge continues. Be back soon :-)


32 posted on 04/05/2014 8:53:20 PM PDT by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Vet 70-71 Msgt US Air Force, retired)
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To: Jet Jaguar

right. had to go back to 07 to get the excuse.


33 posted on 04/05/2014 9:07:47 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: VerySadAmerican

“This guy was an aid to Gates. I doubt he is anti-obama.”

Don’t be too sure. Gates just had his book published that wasn’t very flattering to Obama. Obama couldn’t get Gates back now, but he could get one of his righthand men relieved of duty in retribution. I smell more purge.


34 posted on 04/05/2014 9:14:39 PM PDT by flaglady47 (Oppressors can tyranize only w/a standing army-enslaved press-disarmed populace)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Yeah a story that’s missing much details.


35 posted on 04/05/2014 9:17:35 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Secret Agent Man; Jet Jaguar
right. had to go back to 07 to get the excuse.

2007: BO running for POTUS, not yet POTUS, questions about BO's eligibility for the office were freely circulating.

36 posted on 04/05/2014 9:22:50 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: Bryan24
This was emails--Clintoon got it on in the Oval office with "it's his private business".Military rules and plain morality don't encompass the CIC? This was a purge.

And for all you talking about "keeping it in his pants"--they found nothing but emails.

Something tells me they are searching for reasons to purge the forces of competent officers.

Just so you know, I'm ex military spouse. My husband was a pilot.

vaudine

37 posted on 04/05/2014 9:22:56 PM PDT by vaudine
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To: Jet Jaguar

As I live here in San Antonio, I actually believe that I had heard something about this Colonel: Specifically, that he was a jiu-jitsu enthusiast — meaning that he was probably a bad-ass.... Something not in keeping with today’s feminized, homosexualized, AF.

I have heard of a lot of firings and courts martial in my day, but none reaching back some seven years.... and, for ‘electronic adultery’ at that!

Very, very fishy.

My guess: Purged.


38 posted on 04/05/2014 9:23:07 PM PDT by man_in_tx (Blowback (Faithfully farting towards Mecca five times daily).)
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To: vaudine

Just so you know, I’m ex military spouse. My husband was a pilot.

vaudine
37 posted on Saturday, April 05, 2014 11:22:56 PM by vaudine

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I think you are spot on.


39 posted on 04/05/2014 9:24:28 PM PDT by man_in_tx (Blowback (Faithfully farting towards Mecca five times daily).)
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To: Jet Jaguar

That happened awhile ago.Why are they bringing it up now?


40 posted on 04/05/2014 9:25:59 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: Jet Jaguar

7 year old e-mails, I would be curious to know,as a non-AF guy, what is his command and what is its most important function in the USAF . Thanks Jet just trying to get context.


41 posted on 04/05/2014 9:29:18 PM PDT by crosslink (Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)
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To: Vermont Lt
When they are cutting staff, the littlest thing will be used to getcha.

yep... same thing happening in the army...

42 posted on 04/05/2014 9:32:41 PM PDT by latina4dubya (when i have money i buy books... if i have anything left, i buy 6-inch heels and a bottle of wine...)
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To: Theoria

Clowns. One would think after all that has happened around JBSA ‘they’ would get squared away.

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The putative (electronic) fraternizing offenses occurred at Vance — some seven years ago.

Possibly the only “clowns” in this story are the ones doing the purging (perhaps, with a little help from friends in the NSA).


43 posted on 04/05/2014 9:32:46 PM PDT by man_in_tx (Blowback (Faithfully farting towards Mecca five times daily).)
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To: crosslink

A vice commander at wing level handles the day to day operations for the the Base Commander. He is responsible for the Group Commanders, then the Squadron Commanders.

If this happened seven years ago, the guy was probably a Major.

The responsiblities he has currently are considerable.


44 posted on 04/05/2014 9:40:07 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: Jet Jaguar

Not any more.

He’s quite responsibility free now.


45 posted on 04/05/2014 10:32:23 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: vaudine

In totalitarian regimes, moral reasons are always the reasons given for eliminating somebody.


46 posted on 04/05/2014 10:33:25 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Jet Jaguar

7 years ago? That’s absurd. That’s just an excuse.


47 posted on 04/05/2014 10:42:13 PM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: Jonty30

Commanders have been being relieved since the dawn of the Republic. Given the size of the military bureaucracy, a few dozen isn’t that large a number. I remember during my time in the Air Force commanders being relieved, and that was nearly 30 years ago.

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.


48 posted on 04/05/2014 10:51:16 PM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: Jet Jaguar

The Coup D’e Tat continues. Never seen this kind of a purge. Get more freaks and sub humans in charge.


49 posted on 04/05/2014 10:55:00 PM PDT by Busko (The only thing that is certain is that nothing is certain.)
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To: Jet Jaguar

With the Air Force official and explicit hatred for Christianity, it would not surprise me if these Emails related to prayer.


50 posted on 04/05/2014 10:55:27 PM PDT by Prospero (Si Deus trucido mihi, ego etiam fides Deus.)
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