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Caracas chaos: Venezuelan general on the run (Communist Created Chaos)
The Telegraph UK ^ | 05 Apr 2014 | Philip Sherwell

Posted on 04/05/2014 11:47:59 PM PDT by Texas Fossil

Antonio Rivero, a former general who went into hiding in February to avoid arrest for his role in the protests that have rocked the government of President Nicolas Maduro.

Moving into Spanish, he apologised for the subterfuge involved in our rendezvous.

“These are bad times for our country and we are having to take extraordinary measures,” he said in his first interview since going underground.

>snip

The general is now a prominent figure in the opposition Popular Will party.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: chaos; general; speaks; venezuela
It was difficult to excerpt the article in a way that made sense. Read it at the link.

God help the Venezuelan people again be a Free Republic, not a Communist Country.

1 posted on 04/05/2014 11:48:00 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: Texas Fossil

God help them and God help us ... we are heading down their path at breakneck speed!


2 posted on 04/05/2014 11:52:44 PM PDT by galtman (America is great because she is good. If America ceases to be good, America will cease to be great.)
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To: Texas Fossil

A former officer in a tyrannical government now has joined with the opposition.

Typical of the countries south of our border. If the opposition succeeds, and if this general comes to power, will he be another dictator?


3 posted on 04/05/2014 11:54:03 PM PDT by SatinDoll (A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN IS BORN IN THE US OF US CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: SatinDoll

“If the opposition succeeds, and if this general comes to power, will he be another dictator?”

Of course. You think Obama is going to allow anything even
close to a representative republic get a foothold anywhere
especially in this hemisphere?
As far as the culture goes south of the border, the
latinoids seem to be stuck in a primitive mode they just
cant seem to get themselves out of. You’d think that after
all this time one of those countries would have snapped to
what works and followed suit.


4 posted on 04/06/2014 1:29:42 AM PDT by Slambat
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To: Texas Fossil
The "Venezuelan People" are the idiots that voted for the communist Chavez in the first place and kept reelecting him and then his demented successor.

They deserve everything marxism brings them.

5 posted on 04/06/2014 1:44:15 AM PDT by Rome2000
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To: Texas Fossil

Except for the loss of government control, this is the same road that Obama wants to travel. Obama and Chavez were soul mates and the US passivity is tacit support for the Chavistas and Cubans running Venezuela.


6 posted on 04/06/2014 2:37:31 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: Slambat

Many Americans are ignorant of this country’s relationship with Mexico prior to the 1840s.

As long as Mexico was a Spanish colony, the Europeans who made up the governing class there feared the United States and were hostile towards us for throwing off our governing class of aristocrats. Subsequent American shipping was attacked on the Gulf of Mexico, crews usually killed and ship and cargo stolen by the Mexicans.

Our government considered what to do: should we go to war, or not. It was eventually decided that Mexico had potential as an independent nation and was temporarily dysfunctional, especially after Napoleon conquered Spain, then sold to us what we call the Louisiana Purchase. My, how that sale really pissed off the Mexicans!

It was the decision of Congress and the Republic of Texas to allow inclusion of Texas as a State into the Union of the United States that caused the Mexican-American War.

Mexico will never forgive or forget. The problem with people who consider themselves superior to us is that they cannot accept their defeat by forces they see as inferior.

The problem with countries that had large Indian populations and later, centralized colonial governments telling everyone what to do, is that has always been the norm for them. The concept of self-government is an unknown. It requires literacy and education, which for many Indians and Mestizos is anathema.


7 posted on 04/06/2014 2:39:22 AM PDT by SatinDoll (A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN IS BORN IN THE US OF US CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: Texas Fossil

If ANYONE here thinks this cannot happen to the United States, they are NUTS.

We’ve been debating this on another thread - basically we WILL get to the same place if one of two things happen:

1) We pass the Senate Amnesty bill (Rubio). Within 20 years we will have an UNSTOPPABLE Democrat majority (due to the new citizens and chain migration of family members) and they will descend this country into an economic nightmare, as in Ven. Once that happens, people get mad, protest, and the government does what it must do to hold power - fight back and jail its opposition.

2) We pass a somewhat watered down version of the Senate bill. Similar, but only legalizes the Illegals, and does not make them citizens. This was Ted Cruz’s proposal last summer (but it didn’t go far enough for Schumer). If that’s the case, you still get chain migration, and the Democrats still get their lock on power, but it may take 30 or 40 years.

Personally, I’d rather see us simply make life difficult for those that are here and give them a reason to go back (i.e., no welfare, healthcare, education, jobs). That would give us a chance to integrate the current crop of new citizens that we already have and hopefully not have them become Spanish-only speaking Democrats.


8 posted on 04/06/2014 3:33:38 AM PDT by BobL
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To: Slambat
As far as the culture goes south of the border, the latinoids seem to be stuck in a primitive mode they just cant seem to get themselves out of.

Hmmm, if someone with an unbiased agenda was to step back and evaluate our current culture and compare it to the "latinoids", I wonder which would merit the description of being primitive...........really?

9 posted on 04/06/2014 4:19:05 AM PDT by varon (Para bellum)
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To: varon

“Hmmm, if someone with an unbiased agenda was to step back and evaluate our current culture and compare it to the “latinoids”, I wonder which would merit the description of being primitive...........really?”

Your point being what?
To “wonder” about it in the first
place would take a biased opinion.
Do you really want to go there? I can prove my point.


10 posted on 04/06/2014 4:34:10 AM PDT by Slambat
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To: SatinDoll

“It was the decision of Congress and the Republic of Texas to allow inclusion of Texas as a State”.

Few people know that it was the Mexican citizens in Texas
that kicked Mexico out, not the United States so called
theft.

” It requires literacy and education, which for many Indians and Mestizos is anathema.”

Of which we promote by teaching the anchor babies in their
native language in our public schools. Keep them dumb and
under control like the majority on the liberal left.

Mexico has great resources and a hard working population
but their culture can be summed up in three words
graft, gaudy and corrupt.


11 posted on 04/06/2014 4:49:08 AM PDT by Slambat
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To: Texas Fossil

VZ is stacked up three deep with Cubans. I don’t expect a return to democracy anytime soon.


12 posted on 04/06/2014 6:14:18 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Rip it out by the roots.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Yes, I know. But the Venezuelans are not liking any part of this.

Unfortunately Chavez largely disarmed the citizens.


13 posted on 04/06/2014 6:25:07 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!)
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To: galtman

Yes, and the citizens here are arming themselves and preparing for the worst.

I think Obozo and his minions are in for a rude awakening. November is going to be nasty.


14 posted on 04/06/2014 6:26:35 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!)
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To: Rome2000

Did they re-elect Chavez or was a case of Jimmy Carter’s stamp of approval?


15 posted on 04/06/2014 6:26:43 AM PDT by stocksthatgoup (Take out the trash)
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To: SatinDoll

Self rule is hard.

Culture does affect the success.


16 posted on 04/06/2014 6:27:27 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!)
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To: Rome2000

There is some merit to that statement.

But how about our voters who re-elected the “Won”?


17 posted on 04/06/2014 6:28:43 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!)
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To: stocksthatgoup; Texas Fossil

They reelected him by a large margin and would do it again.

What happens when you enfranchise everyone, including millions of poor uneducated peasants who view an election as a way to steal money from the rich without having to use a gun

In the US, all of the same types are now enfranchised and registered too, and now the Marxists are working on enfranchising illegals.

Heck,if it wans’t for Obamacare pissing in the cornflakes of a large percentage of the cretins that vote democrat but still work, Obama could get reelected continuously, or Hillary Clinton could be POTUS.


18 posted on 04/06/2014 7:28:42 AM PDT by Rome2000
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To: BobL

“If ANYONE here thinks this cannot happen to the United States, they are NUTS.”

You are 100% correct.
America and Canada were the only “New World Countries” that were originally “colonized” by Northern (”white”) Europeans. The rest of the countries in the Western Hemisphere were “colonized” by Southern Europeans. So look at history. Central and South America have always been a turmoil of the socialist/Marxists that make up Southern Europe ( i.e. Spain, Portugal with a little Italy thrown in for good measure). So if we allow the unfettered migration of the byproduct of Southern Europeans to continue here, America will end up just like the rest of the Western Hemisphere, and it will happen rapidly as they procreate while the whites do not.


19 posted on 04/06/2014 8:51:31 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: Slambat
“Hmmm, if someone with an unbiased agenda was to step back and evaluate our current culture and compare it to the “latinoids”, I wonder which would merit the description of being primitive...........really?”

Your point being what?

Hold on folks, we've got a slow one here, so I'll repeat slowly (typing with one finger):

“Hmmm, if someone with an unbiased agenda was to step back and evaluate our current culture and compare it to the “latinoids”, I wonder which would merit the description of being primitive...."

Well, if you don't get the point now, then the problem is on your end and I can't do anything about that.

20 posted on 04/06/2014 10:33:55 AM PDT by varon (Para bellum)
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To: varon

I wonder which would merit the description of being primitive....”

Without a doubt it would be the latinoid culture, biased,
unbiased or other wise.
So once again “speedy” whats your point.


21 posted on 04/06/2014 12:20:05 PM PDT by Slambat
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