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Pro-Russia protesters storm regional government building in east Ukraine
Reuters ^ | 4-6-14 | Lina Kushch

Posted on 04/06/2014 9:13:51 AM PDT by dynachrome

More than 1,000 people protested in a main square in Donetsk, an industrial city, before breaking into the regional administrative building where they hung a Russian flag from a second floor balcony, a Reuters witness said.

The protesters outside cheered and chanted "Russia!".

"Around 1,000 people took part (in the storming of the building), mostly young people with their faces covered," said Ihor Dyomin, a spokesman for Donetsk local police.

"Around 100 people are now inside the building and are barricading the building."

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The news announcer said the Luhansk protesters wanted a referendum on the status of their region, similar to the vote carried out in Crimea which paved the way for the region's annexation by Russia. They also demanded the release of people detained by security services in recent days.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: crimea; donetsk; putin; putinsbuttboys; russia; ukraine; viktoryanukovich; yuliatymoshenko
A reason for Putin to go farther
1 posted on 04/06/2014 9:13:51 AM PDT by dynachrome
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To: dynachrome

Following the Hitler blueprint.


2 posted on 04/06/2014 9:16:54 AM PDT by ully2
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To: dynachrome

what’s good for the goose is good for the gander.

If the west was fine with rioters storming the captial of Kiev, they should be equally fine with rioters storming government buildings in East Ukraine.

Or, does the US only support rioters when the are pro-sodomite?

Either the US supports a peoples right to self determination and freedom or we don’t.


3 posted on 04/06/2014 9:21:23 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

It’s a city of 980,000 people. 1000 protest and this holds massive significance for you? Really?

Wow...


4 posted on 04/06/2014 9:33:36 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Immigration Reform is job NONE. It isn't even the leading issue with Hipanics. Enforce our laws.)
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To: ully2

Yep, and some FReepers have fallen and they can’t get up.

This issue has really separated the men from the boys around here.


5 posted on 04/06/2014 9:34:16 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Immigration Reform is job NONE. It isn't even the leading issue with Hipanics. Enforce our laws.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Protests often start small and build support.

Plus small amounts of the population can often propel great change for all. Only 30% of Americans at the time supported the American revolutionary war for instance.


6 posted on 04/06/2014 9:36:59 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Yep, what’s going on in the Ukraine resembles our Revolutionary War to a tee. Great call... /s

What Putin is doing is the same thing Hitler did.

What part of that do you not understand?


7 posted on 04/06/2014 9:39:20 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Immigration Reform is job NONE. It isn't even the leading issue with Hipanics. Enforce our laws.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
I can't imagine how the puppet gov of western Ukraine could justify shooting on the protestors.

If something similar happened in the US, and a bunch of tire-burning thugs manipulated by others took over DC, I'd want the area I lived in to have the right to vote ourselves out of being governed by the thug government.

8 posted on 04/06/2014 9:40:49 AM PDT by grania
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To: DoughtyOne

um... you do know the protests in Kiev started with just a 2,000 people dont you?

quote “Euromaidan started in the night of 21 November 2013 when up to 2,000 protesters gathered at Kiev’s Maidan Nezalezhnosti and began to organize themselves with the help of social networks”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_Euromaidan


9 posted on 04/06/2014 9:43:37 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: dynachrome
Ukraine's state security services said on Saturday they had detained 15 people in Luhansk suspected of planning to overthrow the authorities and had confiscated hundreds of rifles, grenades and petrol bombs.

NOW the Uke Police confiscate guns and petrol bombs, when they're not in the hands of the Homofascista left.

10 posted on 04/06/2014 9:47:33 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Yep. Okay hot shot. Putin cares so much about his compatriots in the Ukraine right>? He’s only looking out for their interest right?

Okay bud, why did he just double their gas prices?

None of this sinks in does it.


11 posted on 04/06/2014 9:51:22 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Immigration Reform is job NONE. It isn't even the leading issue with Hipanics. Enforce our laws.)
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To: DoughtyOne
This issue has really separated the men from the boys around here.

Says the guy who makes trite Hitler references:

"What Putin is doing is the same thing Hitler did."

12 posted on 04/06/2014 9:52:41 AM PDT by PaulCruz2016
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To: PaulCruz2016

Yep, well rolling tanks across international borders is what Hitler did. Sorry you didn’t know. Open a book...


13 posted on 04/06/2014 9:53:56 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Immigration Reform is job NONE. It isn't even the leading issue with Hipanics. Enforce our laws.)
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To: DoughtyOne
Putin doesn't approve of the mob that overthrew the democratically elected government of Ukraine and is retaliating with economic sanctions in the form of higher gas prices.
14 posted on 04/06/2014 9:56:31 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Which reveals that he couldn’t care less about his Russian brothers. Good grief man 1 and 1 still equals 2, and this is a simple as it gets.

THINK!


15 posted on 04/06/2014 9:57:35 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Immigration Reform is job NONE. It isn't even the leading issue with Hipanics. Enforce our laws.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
what’s good for the goose is good for the gander. If the west was fine with rioters storming the captial of Kiev, they should be equally fine with rioters storming government buildings in East Ukraine/

In Kiev, those were Ukrainians storming Ukrainian buildings. Here, many are Russian nationals, who are dumb enough to post their exploits on the web. Like this guy.
Or Russian nazis as on the other thread

No goose, no gander

16 posted on 04/06/2014 10:43:06 AM PDT by Ivan Mazepa
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To: DoughtyOne

Who are the “Good Guys” in Ukraine? I see the same Klepto-Crats running the show in Kiev....not that I support the Russians neither, but it’s a bad situation all around.


17 posted on 04/06/2014 10:47:27 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: TexasFreeper2009

I think it’s a third or fourth time that they’ve been storming the same administration building. Each time before, the booze ran out and they were home by Monday. Let’s hope same thing will happen this time too.


18 posted on 04/06/2014 10:48:36 AM PDT by Ivan Mazepa
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To: Ivan Mazepa

Their a millions of ethnic Russians that live in Ukraine.

And surely your not claiming that 100% of the Kiev protesters were from Ukraine are you?

No sodomites rushed in from western Europe to help stick it to Putin for standing up to the Gay Mafia prior to the Olympics?

naa... that would never happen! /s


19 posted on 04/06/2014 10:48:43 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

The mob? You mean the average people, like my uncle, who got sick and tired of Yanukovych lying to them, stealing from them, ignoring what the people wanted in favor of what his Russian masters wanted?

My uncle is a dentist in Kyiv, he like many others got fed up with the government, just fed up. Who was there with him? Students, lawyers, tailors, merchants...these protests were entirely peaceful until Yanukovych had journalists assaulted, beaten to an inch of their lives, sent the secret police after people, began trying to push repressive laws to maintain his grip on power and finally, when it was too late, he wanted to “negotiate.”

You sit here on a supposed pro-liberty site and support denying people in Ukraine a chance to choose their own drstiny, perhaps you are confused, you seem like you would fit better somewhere else with the rest of the Communists.


20 posted on 04/06/2014 11:05:34 AM PDT by RedForemanRules
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To: TexasFreeper2009
No sodomites rushed in from western Europe to help stick it to Putin for standing up to the Gay Mafia prior to the Olympics?

Oh, it happened all right. Just that it "happened" on Russian state-owned media.

21 posted on 04/06/2014 11:12:48 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Nah, homos stayed home and watched Bachelorette, they wouldn’t have the fortitude to stand in the cold and fire.


22 posted on 04/06/2014 11:18:38 AM PDT by Ivan Mazepa
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To: dfwgator

People like my uncle, decent Christian people who simply want a shot at a better life in their home country, not a guarantee, just something different from being fully controlled and manipulated by Russia nonstop.


23 posted on 04/06/2014 11:19:09 AM PDT by RedForemanRules
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To: 1rudeboy

Thank you for standing solidly with Obama, Kerry, McCain, Lyndsey Graham, Hillary, the main stream media, and the EU! That would worry many conservatives into thinking shady something might be going on.


24 posted on 04/06/2014 11:19:18 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: RedForemanRules

I hear you...but I don’t see the players on either side caring about the simple, decent people.

Where is the Ukraine “Walesa” or “Havel”?


25 posted on 04/06/2014 11:20:38 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: DesertRhino
Thank you for standing solidly with Obama, Kerry, McCain, Lyndsey Graham, Hillary, the main stream media, and the EU! That would worry many conservatives into thinking shady something might be going on.

Of course. True Conservatives™ should stand in favor of Gasputin, his paid Anti-Semitic lackeys in the Duma, and the sanctity of their broadcast propaganda. We cannot allow the noble, benevolent Russians be pushed around by this upstart, bourgeois Ukrainian superpower.

26 posted on 04/06/2014 11:27:41 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: dfwgator

Vitali Klitschko is the closest thing, it appears likely that Poroshenko will be the new leader assuming Russia doesnt invade just prior to the elections.

There are no guarantees in life, but there was no upside for most of the people to have Ukraine continue to be a satellite of Russia. Just as with other former Soviet bloc nations, they want to set their own path, not what Russia has set for them.


27 posted on 04/06/2014 11:31:44 AM PDT by RedForemanRules
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To: RedForemanRules

Maybe Ukrainians are seeing what’s happening in Greece and realize they want no part of that?

Do Ukrainians really think the Germans and other EU bigshots are going to treat them as equals?


28 posted on 04/06/2014 11:32:59 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: 1rudeboy

Anti semitism runs so rampantly in Russia that they might as well be declared another Arab state, but along with mistreating Jews, they mistreat homosexuals so that makes it okay for some.


29 posted on 04/06/2014 11:34:18 AM PDT by RedForemanRules
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To: dfwgator

So they should maintain the status quo, do nothing, give up, accept Russian kleptocracy and call it a day??

Because i honestly dont know what you are saying at this point. When your natikn has been looted and abused by another for a century now, do you really want to continue to be with those people?

There is no long term upside in Ukraine continuing to be a satellite state of Russia.


30 posted on 04/06/2014 11:38:03 AM PDT by RedForemanRules
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To: RedForemanRules

I just don’t see complete independence from the EU nor Russia as a possibility for Ukraine.

Perhaps a split of the country is the only viable solution in the end.


31 posted on 04/06/2014 11:40:43 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

Take a look at our idiotic government right now.

If we used the logic some folks do, we as citizens would almost be welcoming conquest.

Yes the Ukraine government may not be great. I don’t have a problem with that description. Does that mean the nation deserves to be invaded and land taken from it? No. I don’t believe it does.

The Ukraine has established borders. Yes some of the citizens speak Russian. I don’t think they should be persecuted or treated as second class citizens, but I do believe the Ukraine government has the right to expect national jobs, to be occupied by people who speak Ukrainian.

We have the same issue here, and I believe every citizen should be functional in English. If they hold a government job, they should be required to IMO.

I’ve used this example before, but we have a lot of territory when Spanish is predominantly spoken. Should Mexico be able to come to the border, cross over and hold special elections based on the language spoken? No, IMO.

When it comes right down to it, I’m not convinced Russia’s political system is much better than the Ukraine’s. Putin changes the game to stay in power. Where’s the invading forces to set that right? Well of course there shouldn’t be any. It’s Russian’s internal affair.

Ukraine has the same right to have internal affairs.


32 posted on 04/06/2014 12:01:44 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Immigration Reform is job NONE. It isn't even the leading issue with Hipanics. Enforce our laws.)
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To: dynachrome

More Soros supporters.


33 posted on 04/06/2014 12:21:36 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom.)
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To: dynachrome

Putin gets his Hitler moment. You must be happy.


34 posted on 04/06/2014 12:22:10 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom.)
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To: elhombrelibre

Yes, because Hitler was the first guy who ever thought of the idea. /s


35 posted on 04/06/2014 12:22:56 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: RedForemanRules
You purport to stand for liberty, and yet you apparently support the violent overthrow of a democratically elected government. Who is standing from freedom here, and who is standing up from a mob?

I suggest the ethnic Russian protesters in Eastern Ukraine pull the same stunt the mob pulled in Kiev. I encourage them to start throwing Molotov cocktails at the police and burning them alive until they have no choice but to respond with lethal force. THEN once the police have defended themselves with deadly force, then have them protesters run to the press with video showing how violent the regime in Kiev is and how they are committing atrocities against innocent protesters only seeking to burn police alive! The thugs that took over Kiev best be glad I hadn't been in charge, because I would have called in the military and cleared that square faster than the Chinese did Tienanmen square.

36 posted on 04/06/2014 12:24:54 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: dfwgator

The biggest Klepto-crat is Putin; he’s worth $75 billion. How’s that for stealin’?


37 posted on 04/06/2014 12:25:28 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom.)
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To: elhombrelibre

No argument there...both sides are crooked.


38 posted on 04/06/2014 12:26:39 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

Putin keeps Hitler’s traditions of aggression against weak neighbors alive and you cheer him on. You’re for freedom so much you demand a tyrant worth $75 billion. What a deceitful and cynical way to look at live. You’re no conservative. You’re a dupe for a KGB scumbag.


39 posted on 04/06/2014 12:29:31 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Exactly right!

The script was taken right out of the Anarchists’ playbook. Have a “peaceful” protest, which might attract a large number of participants. Ratchet up the vandalism and violence (it only takes a small fraction of the total crowd to do this), until you provoke a police response. The police response garners you sympathy, and you have larger crowds at your next demonstration. Keep ratcheting up the vandalism and violence until tanks roll on the street. At that point, the U.S., NATO, etc. steps in, and you can overthrow the existing government.

In recent years, that formula worked in Egypt, Libya, Tunisia, Yemen, and Ukraine. It almost worked in Syria, Algeria and other places. Apparently, it didn’t fool Putin; but, he’s not above imitating the strategy.


40 posted on 04/06/2014 12:31:33 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Go use that rhetoric with someone wgo doesnt know better. A country which I visit frequently and think I understand more tgan someone gullibly lapping up Russian propaganda.

Does democratically elected mean limitless power? Where you also against Zelaya being booted in Honduras? Does a leader get to endlessly abuse their power because they were “elected?” Yanukovych had political opponents and journalists murdered, he openly bragged to other leaders about his corruption, he stole billions from the Treasury and this is a man you see fit to defend?

Dont bother responding, i have no i terests in arguing with those who defend fascism, repression and murder, go tell your fairy tales to someone else.


41 posted on 04/06/2014 12:47:04 PM PDT by RedForemanRules
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To: dfwgator

Ukraine Crisis Part two—Putin builds a land link to Criema. Watch as the mobs start or cause a military reaction from Kiev—then the Russian Responce—watch for an “incident” a bloodbath of Russians that will spark the Invasion by Russians Best Units. The war will be short and limited.


42 posted on 04/06/2014 3:14:15 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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