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Lawmakers seeks to ban red light cameras, photo radar vans in Colorado
7NEWS ^ | Apr 4, 2014 | Lance Hernandez

Posted on 04/06/2014 9:16:02 AM PDT by cutty

Scott Renfroe's proposal has bipartisan support.

Red light cameras and photo radar vans are hot button issues in Colorado.

Police say they make intersections and roadways safer, but many motorists insist that the cameras and radar vans are used mainly to generate revenue.

Today, Republican Senator Scott Refroe, of Greeley, introduced a bill to ban red light cameras and photo radar vans in Colorado. It’s his second attempt. The first one in 2012 went nowhere. This time, he has the backing of several prominent Democratic lawmakers

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Refroe’s bill will be heard next week in the Senate State, Veterans and Military Affairs Committee.

Ten states prohibit the use of photo radar or red-light camera enforcement, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures.

(Excerpt) Read more at thedenverchannel.com ...


TOPICS: Canada; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Colorado; US: Florida; US: Pennsylvania; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: colorado; cultureofcorruption; fascism; followthemoney; highwayrobbery; photoradar; privatecompany; privatesecurity; radaror; redlight; redlightcameras; revenuetickets; shakedownracket
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1 posted on 04/06/2014 9:16:02 AM PDT by cutty
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To: cutty
Catching too many illegal aliens with stolen plates, cars, unregistered vehicles, etc?

I find it hard to believe that bureaucrats and solons would voluntarily give up revenue "enhancements".

2 posted on 04/06/2014 9:23:00 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: Calvin Locke

The Headline was written by an illegal alien.


3 posted on 04/06/2014 9:31:38 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: cutty

I’ve heard of studies which show that rear end collisions at intersections with red light cameras increase. People are afraid of getting stuck in the intersection, so they slam on the brakes when the light turns yellow, and get hit from behind. They avoid a ticket but get in an accident. Of course we could say that the person behind was following too closely.

I think cameras should not be used to give tickets. They should only be used if there is an accident, to assign fault, etc. But otherwise cameras just are there to raise money without having to have an actual police office giving out an actual ticket.


4 posted on 04/06/2014 9:36:08 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego (as)
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To: cutty

In some places in CO, they tend to shorten the length of the yellow light so that you DO get caught in the red light. Rather than a 6 second yellow, they adjust it to a 4 second yellow. It’s dangerous to have that shortened caution light, but it does increase the states revenue.


5 posted on 04/06/2014 9:53:38 AM PDT by PrairieLady2
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To: cutty

Good luck Senator Refroe - you’ll need it.


6 posted on 04/06/2014 10:20:55 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: PrairieLady2

That’s what has been found in instance after instance, in multiple states.

What advocates of these red light cameras don’t want to admit is that most of these systems are not run by the government sovereign that installs them - the actual operation is outsourced to some company. The company has a direct profit motive in seeing that as many people get tickets as possible - and then the company gives a cut to the sovereign that has the enforcement jurisdiction over the intersections or roads.

One of the ways these companies accomplish this is to shorten the yellow.

The whole thing is blatantly unconstitutional and corrupt.


7 posted on 04/06/2014 10:21:59 AM PDT by NVDave
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To: cutty

I think red-light cameras should be banned nationwide.

Everywhere.


8 posted on 04/06/2014 10:22:33 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: cutty

The problem with longer yellow lights, is that more drivers figure they can make it through before it turns red. With the shorter lights, drivers soon learn that a yellow light means stop.

Every city seems to have its own distinct driving culture. Around here (Victoria, BC) traffic is sloooow in the city core — except when the light turns yellow. Then there’s a drag race to make it through, before the red light. The (unwritten) “rule” is “if you can get within 10 feet of the crosswalk before the red light, you’re good to go”. If you try to stop (rather than flooring it) as soon as the light turns yellow, the guy behind you will honk (if he hasn’t actually plowed into you). In Vancouver, it’s just about the opposite. Traffic is significantly faster; but, drivers throw out the anchor as soon as the light turns yellow. If they don’t, the light jumpers coming from the other direction are likely to T-bone them.


9 posted on 04/06/2014 10:23:52 AM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: cutty

This 17th Amendment test will be interesting to watch. Will “lawmakers” vote down such debt/revenue tools, or will they further thumb their noses at tourists? So far, it’s one of the states regulating most against property rights and productive businesses, increasing gun control measures, snagging interstate traffic and diverting it to out-of-the-way parts of the state (fuel, restaurants, convenience stores, etc.) and so on.


10 posted on 04/06/2014 10:27:19 AM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

I think that red light cameras should be in very intersection but like Dilbert says, for accident information only.

In 1984 Our 18 year old son was killed by a red light runner. The runner, of course, said our son ran the light not him but a person called us to say that the other guy was the light runner.

Considering we were suffering the deepest grief known to humans, the loss of a child, we did not get the name and number of the caller.

Nothing, NOTHING happen to the illegal alien who killed our son and then lied to the police!

I hope that you never find yourself in our same situation.


11 posted on 04/06/2014 10:34:02 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Ditter

I am so very sorry, to hear that.


12 posted on 04/06/2014 10:35:54 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
A couple of years ago Houston installed red light cameras.

You could easily see that people almost stopped running red lights. It was a learning experience.

Then because of outrage, from people like you, the cameras were removed.

Immediately you saw people speeding up to run through the red light.

Rear end accidents did increase with the cameras but generally speaking those don't kill people. Getting hit broad side by a car running a red light is very often fatal.

I felt much safer with the cameras than I do now.

13 posted on 04/06/2014 10:50:32 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: cutty

Probably taking away too much money rom the citizen’s weed purchases and they make taxes off that.


14 posted on 04/06/2014 10:56:14 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

> I think red-light cameras should be banned nationwide.

Everywhere.

Worldwide...


15 posted on 04/06/2014 10:57:20 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Ditter

I am real sorry about what happened.

Seriously. I really am.


16 posted on 04/06/2014 10:58:00 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Thank you, I believe you but you haven’t changed your mind about red light cameras.


17 posted on 04/06/2014 10:59:44 AM PDT by Ditter
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> Nothing, NOTHING happen to the illegal alien who killed our son and then lied to the police!

And they want to grant amnesty to illegals to assure that the Dems stay in power here on out. Scumbags...


18 posted on 04/06/2014 11:00:55 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Ditter

I am sorry.

I don’t think I really want to debate this. Not with you.

That is simply tragic. I’m very sorry.


19 posted on 04/06/2014 11:02:40 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: cutty

In the land of legal pot? Dream on...


20 posted on 04/06/2014 11:04:37 AM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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