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Yes He Can, on Immigration
New York Times ^ | APRIL 5, 2014 | THE EDITORIAL BOARD

Posted on 04/06/2014 9:25:55 AM PDT by Second Amendment First

If President Obama means what he says about wanting an immigration system that reflects American values, helps the economy and taps the yearnings of millions of Americans-in-waiting, he is going to have to do something about it — soon and on his own. It has been frustrating to watch his yes-we-can promises on immigration reform fade to protestations of impotence and the blaming of others. All Mr. Obama has been saying lately is: No, in fact, we can’t, because Republicans and the law won’t let me.

Mr. Obama is correct when he complains that long-term immigration repairs have been throttled in Congress. Neo-nativist Republicans fixated on mass deportation have blocked a worthy bipartisan bill. But Mr. Obama has compounded this failure by clinging to a coldblooded strategy of ramped-up enforcement on the same people he has promised to help through legislation that he has failed to achieve.

With nearly two million removals in the last five years, the Obama administration is deporting people at a faster pace than has taken place under any other president. This enormously costly effort was meant to win Republican support for broader reform. But all it has done is add to the burden of fear, family disruption and lack of opportunity faced by 11 million people who cannot get right with the law. Because of Mr. Obama’s enforcement blitz, more than 5,000 children have ended up in foster care.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2014election; 2016election; aliens; amnesty; demagogicparty; deportationpolicy; election2014; election2016; illegals; liars; liberalagenda; lyingliars; memebuilding; newyork; newyorkcity; newyorkslimes; newyorktimes; obama; partisanmediashill; partisanmediashills; penandphone; randnesty; tyranny; usefulidiots
I am shocked!

Shocked by the comments of the liberals on this editorial, almost all of which savage the Times editorial board for being clueless about illegal immigration. I am surprised how many progressives hate obama's immigration reform ideas.

1 posted on 04/06/2014 9:25:55 AM PDT by Second Amendment First
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To: Second Amendment First
With nearly two million removals in the last five years, the Obama administration is deporting people at a faster pace than has taken place under any other president. This enormously costly effort was meant to win Republican support for broader reform. But all it has done is add to the burden of fear, family disruption and lack of opportunity faced by 11 million people who cannot get right with the law. Because of Mr. Obama’s enforcement blitz, more than 5,000 children have ended up in foster care.

Pure lies. Obama has almost ceased internal deportations.

Deportation Numbers Unwrapped Raw Statistics Reveal the Real Story of ICE Enforcement in Decline


2 posted on 04/06/2014 9:31:46 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Second Amendment First

So, the New York Times is calling for Obama to act as a dictator - ignore the laws and do what the NY Times wants. How liberal of them. This is the same newspaper that supported Stalin and Castro. Why am I not surprised?


3 posted on 04/06/2014 9:31:48 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (They are called "Liberals" because the word "parasite" was already taken.)
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To: kabar

Absolutely. Several lib comments called them on this, posting this link: http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-obama-deportations-20140402,0,545192,full.story#axzz2xjSqL8O0


4 posted on 04/06/2014 9:36:45 AM PDT by Second Amendment First
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To: Liz; AuntB; La Lydia; sickoflibs; stephenjohnbanker

Because of Mr. Obama’s enforcement blitz, more than 5,000 children have ended up in foster care.
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deserted by their illegal alien parents eh ???


5 posted on 04/06/2014 9:37:26 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Second Amendment First

“With nearly two million removals in the last five years, the Obama administration is deporting people at a faster pace than has taken place under any other president.”

This right here is a bold faced lie. They count people turned away from the border points of entry in this number. I forget who reported it but it has been investigated. It shocks me to no end the slobbering media continues to report this completely unchallenged.


6 posted on 04/06/2014 9:41:07 AM PDT by Jarhead9297
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To: Second Amendment First
Now that ‘reform’ has been demonstrably refined as ‘destruction’ in the area of health care, can we launch a campaign for all sides to cease and desist using ‘reform’ in relation to immigration?

Moreover, if ‘reform’ is action, destructive or otherwise, then nothing being proposed represents action. Rather, it represents INACTION i.e. the volitional abandonment of Savage's Borders, Language and Culture.

7 posted on 04/06/2014 9:42:27 AM PDT by relictele (Principiis obsta & Finem respice - Resist The Beginnings & Consider The End)
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To: Second Amendment First
Neo-nativist Republicans fixated on mass deportation have blocked a worthy bipartisan bill.

I haven't heard a SINGLE Republican talking about mass deportation. NOT ONE. I would argue that I pay as much attention to politics as anybody you'll ever meet. NYT - you lying sack of fecal matter.

Open question to the editors of the NYT, and every bit as fair as the characterization above - Have you guys stopped beating your wives?

8 posted on 04/06/2014 9:46:59 AM PDT by Hardastarboard (The question of our age is whether a majority of Americans can and will vote us all into slavery.)
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To: Second Amendment First
If President Obama means what he says about wanting an immigration system that reflects American values, helps the economy and taps the yearnings of millions of Americans-in-waiting,

That would mean he is going to start keeping his oath and enforcing the law.

I don't believe it will happen.

/s


9 posted on 04/06/2014 9:51:33 AM PDT by Iron Munro (The future ain't what it use to be -- Yogi Berra)
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To: Second Amendment First
With nearly two million removals in the last five years, the Obama administration is deporting people at a faster pace than has taken place under any other president.

The boys and girls at the New Yawn Slimes are still rooting for the day when whitey is finally the minority in America so they print LIES like this for their commie "massas" up in the District of Corruption.

10 posted on 04/06/2014 10:00:03 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The debate, ANY DEBATE, is NEVER OVER!)
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To: Second Amendment First
With nearly two million removals in the last five years, the Obama administration is deporting people at a faster pace than has taken place under any other president

When you are counting people that are turned away at the border as being deported all your statistics are bogus. In fact all this administrations statistics have been proven lies. Why believe anything?

11 posted on 04/06/2014 10:01:09 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Second Amendment First
This editorial presages a big Obama initiative on immigration, i.e., a suspension of most deportations. It amounts to a de facto amnesty, which has been going on, sub rosa, for some time. No doubt the WH has been working with the NYT to give them a pretext and cover for acting.

Something "big and consequential" is coming prior to the midterms and maybe as early as this month to put pressure on the House to pass immigration legislation of some sort that can be used as a Trojan Horse for comprehensive immigration reform led by the likes of Eric Cantor and Paul Ryan.

Be very afraid

12 posted on 04/06/2014 10:02:26 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Iron Munro

Millions of Democrats in waiting they mean.


13 posted on 04/06/2014 10:07:43 AM PDT by Argus
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To: Don Corleone

Everything Obama and the Dems do is a bald-faced lie, including the coordinated efforts of the NYT and the MSM.

They are hardcore Marxists who want to tear down the US at all costs.

Illegals need to be deported and the 14th Amendment to include the political allegiance of the parents, so birthright citizenship is ended as a de facto source of welfare.


14 posted on 04/06/2014 10:09:19 AM PDT by wac3rd (Somewhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers....)
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To: Don Corleone

Everything Obama and the Dems do is a bald-faced lie, including the coordinated efforts of the NYT and the MSM.

They are hardcore Marxists who want to tear down the US at all costs.

Illegals need to be deported and the 14th Amendment to include the political allegiance of the parents, so birthright citizenship is ended as a de facto source of welfare.


15 posted on 04/06/2014 10:09:27 AM PDT by wac3rd (Somewhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers....)
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To: Second Amendment First

I have it on good authority that every member of that editorial board lives either in New Canaan,CT or Chappaqua,NY...two of the richest (and whitest) residential communities on earth.If any of these brown skinned people were to ever be spotted in their neighborhoods after dark (they’re there during the day...mowing their lawns) the board would take an *entirely* different view of the subject.


16 posted on 04/06/2014 10:11:48 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Stalin Blamed The Kulaks,Obama Blames The Tea Party)
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To: Second Amendment First
There are lies.

There are damned lies.

And then there is the New York Times.

17 posted on 04/06/2014 10:13:46 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: Tennessee Nana

If we have to support them despite their exploiting parents, foster care should be the rule. It is called taxation with representation... but do not expect the child support pimp mafya to approve that.


18 posted on 04/06/2014 10:40:21 AM PDT by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall not be infringed)
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To: Argus

> Millions of Democrats in waiting they mean.

That will be converted into non-partisan voters who favor conservative values and vote R though they are registered as D’s because they are old to. If they give them amnesty it will backfire on them in time. They are too stupid to realize this.


19 posted on 04/06/2014 10:42:06 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: jsanders2001

> Millions of Democrats in waiting they mean.

That will be converted into non-partisan voters who favor conservative values and vote R even though they are registered as D’s because they are told to. If they give them amnesty it will backfire on them in time. They are too stupid to realize this.


20 posted on 04/06/2014 10:42:55 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Second Amendment First

The NY Slimes, the paper that warned Castro of the impending Bay of pigs invasion and many other US military actions, and incredibly that rag of treason is still operating.


21 posted on 04/06/2014 10:43:00 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Republican has "I can" at the end. Democrat has "rat". Any questions?)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

> Obama has compounded this failure by clinging to a coldblooded strategy of ramped-up enforcement on the same people he has promised to help through legislation that he has failed to achieve.

IOW, the New York Slimes is carrying water like the Partisan Media Shills they are. Thanks Second Amendment First.

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/deportationpolicy/index


22 posted on 04/06/2014 12:13:48 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Tennessee Nana
Immigration reform like affordable healthcare has a pleasant, non threatening title but it is a program that is intended to destroy the foundations of this country. The zombie low information voters will be the first to be hurt badly, Calderon is running education programs in Mexico for his illegals in all trades of employment so they are prepared to earn a living when they cross over, these are low wage earners who will also put the high paid union trade people out of business
23 posted on 04/06/2014 12:52:40 PM PDT by ronnie raygun (Im missing a jumbo jet with 235 passengers has anyone seen it?)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
The boys and girls at the New Yawn Slimes are still rooting for the day when whitey is finally the minority in America ...

What makes this all the more confusing is that most of the NYT writers are white. They'll notice what they've done when they get mugged by reality 20 years down the road. Until then, they're living in liberal dream-land.

24 posted on 04/06/2014 12:54:58 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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and from the FRchives:

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/rifqabary/index


25 posted on 04/06/2014 1:02:11 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Second Amendment First
Re: “Neo-nativist Republicans fixated on mass deportation have blocked a worthy bipartisan bill.”

That is the exact comment written by the New York Times “Editorial Board.”

And yet, our GOP leadership continues to give exclusive stories to the NYT and continues to publish exclusive editorials on the NYT editorial pages.

We are no longer the “stupid party.”

We are the “mentally deranged” party.

26 posted on 04/06/2014 1:45:45 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: Second Amendment First
Arrested for crimes, then released - California.

Link: http://news.msn.com/crime-justice/ap-exclusive-california-immigration-holds-drop

“Far fewer immigrants arrested by California law enforcement are being turned over to federal authorities for deportation since a new state law went into effect in January.”

“Alameda County Sheriff Greg Ahern is president of the California State Sheriffs’ Association, which opposed the Trust Act. He estimated the number of people in his county booked into jails and turned over to ICE has fallen about 70 percent this year.”

“Ahern expressed concern about who is being freed. “Common sense will tell you people who are violating the law and taken into custody many times are responsible for unrelated crimes,” he said.”

27 posted on 04/06/2014 1:55:59 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: Jarhead9297
Re: “I forget who reported it.....”

The Center for Immigration Studies (CIS.org) broke the story on false deportation numbers at least four months ago.

So, what did the MSM do?

They ignored it, and they cover stories about La Raza calling Obama the “Deporter-In-Chief.”

28 posted on 04/06/2014 2:08:07 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: Second Amendment First
Shocked by the comments of the liberals on this editorial, almost all of which savage the Times editorial board for being clueless about illegal immigration. I am surprised how many progressives hate obama's immigration reform ideas.

I am going to check them out!

29 posted on 04/06/2014 2:11:35 PM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: zeestephen

I could tell you with great vulgarity where La Rasa can stick it but fear being banned ;-)


30 posted on 04/06/2014 2:14:54 PM PDT by Jarhead9297
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To: Second Amendment First

Bet there’s some Mexican journalists that will work for half of what the Slimes is paying their folks. How about it Slimes - put your money where your mouth is.


31 posted on 04/06/2014 7:02:04 PM PDT by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite it's unfashionability)
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