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Pro-Russians Storm Ukraine Government Buildings
TIME/AP ^ | April 6, 2014

Posted on 04/06/2014 9:36:37 AM PDT by 1rudeboy

(KIEV, Ukraine) — Crowds of pro-Russian demonstrators stormed government buildings Sunday in two major cities in eastern Ukraine, where secessionist sentiment has sparked frequent protests since Ukraine’s Russia-friendly president was ousted in February.

In Luhansk, 30 kilometers (20 miles) west of the Russian border, hundreds of people surrounded the local headquarters of the security service and later scaled the facade to plant a Russian flag on the roof.

In Donetsk, to the southwest, a large group of people surged into the provincial government building and smashed windows. A gathering of several hundred, many of them waving Russian flags, then listened to speeches delivered from a balcony emblazoned with a banner reading “Donetsk Republic.”

Eastern Ukraine was the heartland of support for Viktor Yanukovych, the president who fled to Russia in February after months of protests. About half of the region’s residents are ethnic Russians, many of whom believe Ukraine’s acting authorities are Ukrainian nationalists who will oppress Russians.

Ukraine’s interim authorities deny they are infringing the rights of the ethnic Russian population and accuse Moscow of trying to sow instability. Russia has moved large contingents of troops to areas near the Ukrainian border, and speculation is strong that unrest in eastern Ukraine could be used as a pretext for a Russian incursion.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: agitprop; antifascism; antifascists; antirightsector; antisvoboda; banderas; deathtoputin; donetsk; ntsa; olehtyahnybok; prayvsektor; putin; rightsector; russia; stepanbanderas; svoboda; svobodanazis; tyahnybok; ukraine; viktoryanukovich; yuliatymoshenko
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1 posted on 04/06/2014 9:36:37 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

Spetznaz Ops?

No tanks needed by Putin to annex eastern Ukraine...yet.


2 posted on 04/06/2014 9:56:35 AM PDT by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: 1rudeboy

Can you imagine what Putin would do if these were pro Ukrainian people storming Russian buildings. Oh wait......!


3 posted on 04/06/2014 9:57:41 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: 1rudeboy

Phase II has begun. Putin no doubt wants a contiguous land bridge to connect Russia to Crimea. Agitation by Russophiles in eastern Ukraine is the first step. However will Putin again deploy the Russian army and force the West to impose mutually destructive sanctions? Will the Ukraine fight to defend it sovereignty or will NATO support it and risk war? Will Ukraine and Russia negotiate a debt for land swap? Should the US be involved or even care?


4 posted on 04/06/2014 10:02:58 AM PDT by allendale
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To: allendale

No need for a “land bridge.” Crimea is less than a mile from mainland Russia.


5 posted on 04/06/2014 10:10:01 AM PDT by dangus
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To: 1rudeboy
Also Sunday, authorities in Ukraine said they found the body of a kidnapped journalist who played an active role in protests that led to Yanukovych’s ouster. The body was found in a forest about 150 kilometers (60 miles) outside the capital, Kiev.

Cherkassk province prosecutors said Vasily Sergiyenko was abducted in his home city of Korsun-Shevchenkivskyi on Friday evening and later murdered. The nationalist Svoboda party, of which Sergiyenko was a member, said the reporter was found with stab wounds and signs of beatings to his head and knees.

Oh dear, the MSM will be upset about this.

6 posted on 04/06/2014 10:13:33 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Seizethecarp

No intimidation....

Just a “spontaneous” protest, doncha know.


7 posted on 04/06/2014 10:15:43 AM PDT by alloysteel (Selective and willful ignorance spells doom, to both victim and perpetrator - mostly the perp.)
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To: Seizethecarp

Why would it need to be Spetnaz? The region voted over 90% for Yanukovich; do you think they would WANT to be part of the new EU-controlled Ukraine? How’d that work out for Spain, Greece, Italy, etc.?


8 posted on 04/06/2014 10:15:47 AM PDT by dangus
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To: 1rudeboy

Yes,Vlad,I've ordered the 101st Airborne and the 1st Marine Division to be "flexible" as well.

9 posted on 04/06/2014 10:20:47 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Stalin Blamed The Kulaks,Obama Blames The Tea Party)
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To: 1rudeboy

Have the pro-Russians thrown any firebombs at the cops like the Obama/Soros/sodomite EU mobs did in Kiev? Has the Kiev junta ordered the police and military not to touch the pro-Russians like the rump parliament in Kiev ordered the police and military not to touch the Obama/Soros/sodomite EU firebomb throwers.


10 posted on 04/06/2014 10:27:30 AM PDT by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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To: 1rudeboy

There are many who do not trust Kiev.

If Kiev won’t move to a federal solution, the country will break up.


11 posted on 04/06/2014 10:29:03 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: 1rudeboy
Ukraine’s interim authorities

Characterization is Kremlin style book approved?

12 posted on 04/06/2014 10:38:13 AM PDT by No One Special
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To: allendale

Well, after all, Hitler annexed Austria because native germans weren’t safe...


13 posted on 04/06/2014 10:44:54 AM PDT by RaceBannon (Lk 16:31 And he said unto him If they hear not Moses and the prophets neither will theybe persuaded)
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To: Count of Monte Fisto

Check with Alex Jones. He should know.


14 posted on 04/06/2014 10:45:13 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: dangus
The region voted over 90% for Yanukovich; do you think they would WANT to be part of the new EU-controlled Ukraine?

Yanuckovich was elected promising integration with the EU so your point doesn't necessarily follow.

Polls show most folks even in eastern Ukraine don't want to be part of Russian.

If I was in Ukraine I would be pro independent from Russia and from the EU.

15 posted on 04/06/2014 10:51:07 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign
If I was in Ukraine I would be pro independent from Russia and from the EU.

To steal from Dylan...."It may be the EU, or it may be Russia, but you've got to serve somebody."

Ukraine will never be fully independent in that sense.

16 posted on 04/06/2014 10:52:40 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator
If I was in Ukraine I would be pro independent from Russia and from the EU.

To steal from Dylan...."It may be the EU, or it may be Russia, but you've got to serve somebody." Ukraine will never be fully independent in that sense.

That's debatable but if I had to choose between the two tyrannies I would choose the less centralized, softer more inept tyranny, the EU.

17 posted on 04/06/2014 11:00:34 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: goldstategop

What kind of federalization? the one that Russia wants for Ukraine (each region in Ukraine to have its own domestic AND foreign policy) or the one that Russia practices at home, where every single meaningful dicision is made in Moscow.


18 posted on 04/06/2014 11:01:13 AM PDT by Ivan Mazepa
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To: Count of Monte Fisto; 1rudeboy
Pro Russian demonstrators seven days ago,...

My question: where are the masks, firebombs, tire bonfires, vandalized buildings and bodies?

19 posted on 04/06/2014 11:01:35 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Navy Patriot

In George Soros’ van.


20 posted on 04/06/2014 11:03:16 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Navy Patriot

If a few thousand Mexicans got together and protested in Corpus Christi, demanding that it be given back to Mexico completely, you would support the US govetnment just rolling over?


21 posted on 04/06/2014 11:14:14 AM PDT by RedForemanRules
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To: alloysteel

Its typical Russian tactics, those arwas only have a sizeable Russian presence because Stalin killed off or “moved” many of the native Ukrainian inhabitants.

Russia is continuing to bombard that lart of Ukraine with propaganda, scaring people senseless, making them think evil Nazi zombies are coming to their homes to eat their children...and if that doesnt work? Then that the Jews are coming to steal their jobs.


22 posted on 04/06/2014 11:15:48 AM PDT by RedForemanRules
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To: Navy Patriot
Looking at the first few rows, except for the two guys with the red noses they are all females.

They look like the Obama babe type crowds we would see in the this country.

23 posted on 04/06/2014 11:20:11 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: 1rudeboy

Oh come on , Russian military is tattooed on their foreheads


24 posted on 04/06/2014 11:23:05 AM PDT by molson209 (Hillary Clinton)
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To: RedForemanRules
If a few thousand Mexicans got together and protested in Corpus Christi, demanding that it be given back to Mexico completely, you would support the US government just rolling over?

Where did I say that?

Could it be that the Obama regime is rolling over for criminal illegal alien Mexicans in the US, and we should defeat the criminal Obama agenda here? AND, we should defeat the criminal Obama agenda in Ukraine and the Nazi criminals he has hired and supports there as well?

25 posted on 04/06/2014 11:30:45 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: 1rudeboy
Check with Alex Jones. He should know.

LOL! I think that *is* Alex Jones.

26 posted on 04/06/2014 11:35:49 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Play the 'Knockout Game' with someone owning a 9mm and you get what you deserve)
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To: FreeReign
Here be an Obama approved Occupy demonstration for comparison:

Notice no flags?

27 posted on 04/06/2014 11:39:59 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Navy Patriot

There were similar pictures from the early Maidan, in December 2013.

Pro-Russian demonstrators were very peaceful when they attacked a small group of pro-Ukrainian protesters in Donetsk and killed one man. Real Russian heroes those were
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lNwOrZLetcM


28 posted on 04/06/2014 11:43:42 AM PDT by Ivan Mazepa
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To: 1rudeboy

Looks like some old school communist agitProp....agitation and propaganda. Vlad Putin is reviving this


29 posted on 04/06/2014 11:46:58 AM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: Navy Patriot

Stop reading conspiracy websites pumping Russian propaganda. My uncle was out on the Maidan, you know who was there with him? Average Ukrainians, students, blue collar workers....etc, people who were sick of the lies and the brutality and the corruption. It was a peaceful movement until the secret police were unleashed on the people...then they began to fight back.

Now Putin is doing everything he can to create unrest and have a pretext for invading other parts of Ukraine. Its not a big deal because as he admitted to President Bush, he sees Ukraine more as a Russian state than an independent country.

All this takk about Nazis is purely ridiculous. Did the movement draw some extremists? Sure, like the hockey riots in Vancouver drew anarchists, people who love chaos.

But if you know about fascists and Nazis in Europe, they strongly favor Russia. Ukraines own fascist groups are seen as black sheep because they are virulently anti Russia.

But Russia draws the fascists, as they did to the referendum in Crimea. Russian sentiment is strongly anri Semitic, that sentiment is openly expressed in public life, in mainstream newspapers. You can say all sorts of things about Jews there that might get you in hot water in the European nations which tend to be a litgle intolerant of that sorr of thing.

In short people supporting Rusdia in this are supporting a very repressive, authoritarian, anti-semitic, anti freedom entity while still having the gall to continue posting on a website which explicity supports freedom and liberty.


30 posted on 04/06/2014 11:51:35 AM PDT by RedForemanRules
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To: RedForemanRules
. Ukraines own fascist groups are seen as black sheep because they are virulently anti Russia.

Bandera-ites hate Poles more than Russians.

31 posted on 04/06/2014 11:52:50 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

“Bandera-ites?” The 1940s want their rhetoric back. As someone with Polish and Ukrainian family who spends a lot of time in both countries, i honestly have no idea what you are referring to currently.

If the extremist groups such as Right Sector, they are all more anti-Russian than anything else.

In terms of Western Ukraine, there are very close ties to Poland that even Stalin couldnt destroy. It makes sense why when looking for propaganda, Russian media wenr to film the busy border crossing between Poland and Ukraine to claim that it was a video of “Ukrainians escaping into Southern Russia to avoid persecution.


32 posted on 04/06/2014 12:01:20 PM PDT by RedForemanRules
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To: RedForemanRules

1940's rhetoric, eh?

33 posted on 04/06/2014 12:04:58 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: 1rudeboy

Spetznaz in unmarked uniforms again?


34 posted on 04/06/2014 12:10:47 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom.)
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To: dfwgator
“Bandera-ites hate Poles more than Russians.”

According to Kremlin's (they should rename it Gremlin by the way) divide and conquer tactic.

35 posted on 04/06/2014 12:11:15 PM PDT by Grzegorz 246
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To: Don Corleone

Yeah, like when the Ukrainians stormed the Ukrainian buildings in their country. Putin didn’t appreciate that when they finally kicked out his puppet.


36 posted on 04/06/2014 12:11:58 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom.)
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To: goldstategop

“Federal solution?” You sure speak the Putin party line as quickly as it is announced, comrade.


37 posted on 04/06/2014 12:13:16 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom.)
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To: Navy Patriot

Another George Soros plot, for sure, comrade Putinista.


38 posted on 04/06/2014 12:15:22 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom.)
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To: RedForemanRules
Sorry, I forgot that only Russia uses propaganda, only Eastern media disseminates propaganda, only Putin uses covert operatives and paid demonstrators, only Putin operate to undermine and destroy legal governments, only Putin has caused "Arab Spring" and hundreds of thousands of deaths, only Putin is arming those that kill Christians, only Putin is enabling the Environazis, ALF Nazis, Islamonazis, Feminazis, Homonazis, only Russians are dangerously antisemitic, and...

I forgot that you own Free Republic determine whom should post her.

39 posted on 04/06/2014 12:18:35 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: dfwgator

What exactly is that picture doing to support your claim? Bandera is a controversial figure in Ukraine, he was a strong force for Ukrainian freedom and liberation, he also did a lot of unsavory things. He is seen as a symbol of Ukrainian independence, if that us your basis for claiming that Ukrainians hate Poles, then you are grasping at straws.

Then again what would I know, my family is only from both countries and my Ukrainian aunt did seem to point her fork menacingly at my Polish grandfather during dinner....perhaps you are right....


40 posted on 04/06/2014 12:21:01 PM PDT by RedForemanRules
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To: RedForemanRules

Be fair, I have the same reaction when I see a Russian today carrying a picture of Stalin, which I’ve seen many times.


41 posted on 04/06/2014 12:22:10 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: elhombrelibre
Another George Soros plot, for sure, comrade Putinista.

Glad to see you admit it, Herr Homofascista.

42 posted on 04/06/2014 12:22:53 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: FreeReign
Polls show most folks even in eastern Ukraine don't want to be part of Russian.

Lol...what year was that poll taken?

43 posted on 04/06/2014 12:23:34 PM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: goldstategop
If Kiev won’t move to a federal solution, the country will break up.

A federal solution is break up.

44 posted on 04/06/2014 12:25:09 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: Mike Darancette
A federal solution is break up.

Worked for the Czechs and Slovaks.

45 posted on 04/06/2014 12:25:43 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Navy Patriot

Of course not, but if this were the 1950s you would be one of those who saw a Potemkin village and thought that the Soviet Union was a lovely place to live.

Obama supporting the revolution in Ukraine doesnt make it bad anymore than Lutin opposing Obama makes him good.

That sort of emotionally derived logic is more befitting of the leftists.

Coincidentally, the far left, the eo Stalinists and the rest of the Jew hating, hate-America crowd are completely on the same page as you on this topic.


46 posted on 04/06/2014 12:26:32 PM PDT by RedForemanRules
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To: FreeReign
If I was in Ukraine I would be pro independent from Russia and from the EU.

How about NATO membership?

47 posted on 04/06/2014 12:27:05 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: RedForemanRules

What makes you think Obama supports the revolution in Ukraine....Doofus probably can’t even find Ukraine on a map.


48 posted on 04/06/2014 12:27:48 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: mac_truck

Polls taken un Crimea 6 months ago showed only 42% wanted to join Russia, in the east it is even lesz. Had Stalin not shipped out or murdered many of the native inhabitants and shipped in native Russians, the entire premise would be laughable.


49 posted on 04/06/2014 12:28:58 PM PDT by RedForemanRules
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To: 1rudeboy

Hey! What are Agitational Specialists getting paid these days?


50 posted on 04/06/2014 12:29:23 PM PDT by dasboot
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