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Now Big Brother wants to put unit lines on pub glasses to show you EXACTLY how much…(UK)
Daily Mail (UK) ^ | 18:48 EST, 5 April 2014 | Sarah Bridge and Stephen Adams

Posted on 04/06/2014 11:05:55 AM PDT by Olog-hai

For many of us, enjoying a glass of wine or pint of beer is the perfect way to unwind after a hard day’s work. But it seems having a drink in a pub or restaurant could be about to get a lot less relaxing.

Campaigners are calling for lines to be printed on glasses to show drinkers how many units of alcohol they are really consuming—and potentially to shock them into cutting down. The plans, put forward by the Drinkaware charity, would see unit measure lines added to glasses, based on average-strength drinks—a 4 percent beer, 13 percent wine and 40 percent spirit.

Given that a 4 percent pint of beer contains 2.3 units, the glass would have two unit lines printed on it—one just below half-full and the second a little way under the official pint mark.

However, pub operators have condemned the “Big Brother” plans as “barmy”, saying the lines would be meaningless because the strength of different beers, wines and spirits varies so much. …

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Food; Society; Travel
KEYWORDS: beerglasses; bigbrother; measuringlines; nannystate
Full Daily Mail title:
Now Big Brother wants to put unit lines on pub glasses to show you EXACTLY how much you’ve had to drink
Trying to push towards Sharia prohibition, is it?
1 posted on 04/06/2014 11:05:56 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai
"Campaigners are calling for lines to be printed on glasses to show drinkers how many units of alcohol they are really consuming —and potentially to shock them into cutting down to ensure they're getting all the booze they paid for."

That would be a campaign I could support. Actually, some Canadian jurisdictions have long required lines on beer glasses, to ensure that the the customer gets all the beer he pays for (rather than just foam).

2 posted on 04/06/2014 11:11:29 AM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Olog-hai

Politicians, ALL POLITICIANS, are morons! Buffoons! Put a line on a glass to show the dummies how much alcohol they’ve consumed. Childish and stupid. I understand the American Revolution now so much better than I ever did before. Free people can take only so much stupidity from politicians and abuse from an oppressive government before they crack.


3 posted on 04/06/2014 11:12:51 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The debate, ANY DEBATE, is NEVER OVER!)
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To: Olog-hai
It's amusing that they think putting a line on beer glasses will cause people to drink less.

The official serving size for Fig Newtons is two cookies. However, most people eat them by the sleeve.

There are 24 cookies in a sleeve - or 12 servings!

So it also goes for beer.

4 posted on 04/06/2014 11:14:36 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: Olog-hai

Well.....pegs and lines have been required on glasses & mugs for centuries in some countries, to insure the patron receives what he paid for.

Being told to “mind your P’s and Q’s” was originally about graduated drinking vessels. Don’t know what the motivation is now, but it goes waaay back in European history.


5 posted on 04/06/2014 11:14:41 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: Olog-hai
Well, what did you Limeys THINK turning every aspect of your lives over to government was going to lead to?

Bloody hell.

6 posted on 04/06/2014 11:17:06 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

It’s a serious matter that: serving short measures, even by having too much of a head on the beer in a pint, can result in law suits in the UK.


7 posted on 04/06/2014 11:20:17 AM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

Everywhere in the EU has lines on glasses. They DO need that here. I have a calibrated hand and KNOW when I’m being short changed on a pint. There is a cheap sneaky bastard who owns a pub here that phased out all the true pint 16 ounce glasses with 14 ounce glasses. When confronted, by me, he assured me they were still 16 ounces. WRONG, caught short handed. They were 14 ounce glasses but shaped to give the appearance they were still 16 ounce glasses by using thicker glass.

Is it a sign I drink too much beer that I can tell a 2 ounce difference between glasses???


8 posted on 04/06/2014 11:20:40 AM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: Olog-hai

This is no big deal. In Germany, beer is served in handsome glasses with exact measurement marked. It is to make sure that you are not short-changed a few drops. Believe me, they fill precisely to the line.

So where’s the problem? It is more important to know what you are drinking. Mainstream American beer is pretty poor. If you want to cut down on drinking (in order to lose weight, or to save money), drink good beer: it is worth drinking slowly, and then you do not drink so much. Good beer looks nice, and tastes and smells good. So why drink “lite” fizzy-piss, when you can get good beer if you look for it?


9 posted on 04/06/2014 11:30:54 AM PDT by docbnj
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA
Ahhh, but these lines aren't volume lines, they are alcohol content lines, this means you'd need a different set of glasses for each proof of alcohol served.

And if followed to the letter, each mixed drink would require its own unique set of lines depending on how heavy or light the bartender's hand is on a particular pour.

10 posted on 04/06/2014 11:32:25 AM PDT by null and void (I don't mind getting older, but I hate wearing out!)
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To: docbnj

But is it required by law over there?


11 posted on 04/06/2014 11:38:10 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Organic Panic

In Canada, we still observe the Imperial system of weights and measures for some vital statistics (e.g. the weight of a newborn, a serving of beer). However, an Imperial pint is 20 ounces*, while a U.S. pint is only 16 ounces*. Many pubs have taken to serving beer by the U.S. pint. It took me a while to catch on, because my hands aren’t as well calibrated as yours. Now, when I’m ordering a “pint”, I ask for the definition.

* Of course, it’s not that simple. A U.S. fluid ounce is bigger than an Imperial fluid ounce. An Imperial pint equals 1.2 US Pint. That’s 19.5 U.S. oz.


12 posted on 04/06/2014 11:39:20 AM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: null and void

In a Germsn tavern, you are served in a glass with the volume measure line and each brewery has its own labeled glass. But it is absurd to think the limit lines are designed to reduce alcohol consumption. They are to prevent fraud by varying the thickness of the glass.


13 posted on 04/06/2014 11:43:21 AM PDT by Procyon (Decentralize, degovernmentalize, deregulate, demonopolize, decredentialize, disentitle.)
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To: Olog-hai

After reading all this I am totally confused. If this moronic idea ever gets to the US how many lines will I put on a Mason Jar?


14 posted on 04/06/2014 11:45:41 AM PDT by mosaicwolf (Strength and Honor)
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To: Olog-hai

Reminds me of either BRAVE NEW WORLD or 1984 in which a pub patron complains that the new measurement for beer glasses gives him either not enough or too much beer and he has to run to the restroom more often.


15 posted on 04/06/2014 11:50:26 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: Organic Panic

Remember the movie ON THE TOWN in which the three sailors take their girls to the night clubs and order beer?

The beers came out in a standard sized mug( on the outside), with a huge amount of glass in the bottom and about one inch of beer on top of it.


16 posted on 04/06/2014 11:54:25 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: Olog-hai; Revolting cat!

Does it account for establishments serving watered down drinks?


17 posted on 04/06/2014 11:57:29 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (The new witchhunt: “Do you NOW, . . . or have you EVER , . . supported traditional marriage?”)
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To: Procyon

Nothing is too absurd if it gives The State one jot, one tittle, one iota more control.


18 posted on 04/06/2014 12:01:06 PM PDT by null and void (I don't mind getting older, but I hate wearing out!)
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To: Olog-hai
Mostly these are alcohol units, NOT quantity units which are already obvious (fill 'er up)


19 posted on 04/06/2014 12:28:04 PM PDT by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: a fool in paradise

They’d never keep their units straight if they were trying by alcohol-by-volume measurements, in such a case.


20 posted on 04/06/2014 12:31:36 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

21 posted on 04/06/2014 12:43:01 PM PDT by Veggie Todd (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. TJ)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Dave Allen (Irish comedian who had lost part of his left forefinger) said that he often stuck his finger in his whiskey glass and it had been eaten away by “strong drink”....


22 posted on 04/06/2014 12:46:24 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: docbnj

Heh, heh, I was stationed in Germany with a sergeant major who must have been there since the occupation. When he hit mandatory retirement & was finally headed stateside, someone asked him how he was ever going to get re accustomed to drinking American beer.

He replied he was going to take a German beer & gradually start adding Clorox!

This was no exaggeration as Budweiser tasted like fizzy chemical froth compared to any local beer made according to the `Reinigungsgesetz’ which is said to be the oldest continually enforced law in the world.

It states that beer will consist of nothing other than water, barley, yeast & hops.


23 posted on 04/06/2014 12:46:25 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: minnesota_bound

LOL, loved watching Dave Allen at Large.


24 posted on 04/06/2014 12:48:19 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

Please Sir may I have more.


25 posted on 04/06/2014 1:10:44 PM PDT by lostboy61 (Lock and Load and stand your ground!)
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To: SamAdams76

Hey, at least you’ll know if the bartender is cheating you. :)


26 posted on 04/06/2014 2:17:16 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: elcid1970

Hey, why not buy “imported” beers?

Funny story when I was in Stockholm a few years back — they stocked imported American beers. They had a pretty good selection — Fat Tire, Boulder Beer. Just a couple of miles from my home.

Some of the local to the States beers are pretty good. Just avoid the pi$$ beers.


27 posted on 04/06/2014 2:24:28 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: Olog-hai

Cool, I love a challenge!


28 posted on 04/06/2014 2:27:25 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: SamAdams76

You mean a sleeve of Fig Newtons PLUS a quart of ice cold whole milk.

Now THAT is a serving size I can live with.


29 posted on 04/06/2014 2:39:39 PM PDT by Rodamala
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

30 posted on 04/06/2014 4:37:36 PM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: Olog-hai
Campaigners are calling for lines to be printed on glasses to show drinkers how many units of alcohol they are really consuming—and potentially to shock them into cutting down.

Are they really that stupid?

31 posted on 04/06/2014 4:52:01 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: RightGeek

Dat’s Sexiss.


32 posted on 04/06/2014 4:52:45 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: SamAdams76

It is more likely that bar patrons might see it as a starting line...


33 posted on 04/06/2014 4:52:46 PM PDT by willyd (I for one welcome our NSA overlords)
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To: Cyber Liberty

The campaigners? Unquestionably.


34 posted on 04/06/2014 5:47:23 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

{sigh} Yeah, them. Indeed they are.


35 posted on 04/06/2014 5:54:30 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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