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Sources: Volkswagen Seeks Obama Adminís Help To Unionize Plant, Despite Election Results
The Daily Caller ^ | 07 April 2014 | Patrick Howley

Posted on 04/08/2014 1:24:06 AM PDT by zeestephen

The Chattanooga plant’s February secret-ballot vote to remain non-union was seen as a major triumph for the right-to-work community. But Volkswagen has since been under intense pressure from the company’s highly influential German union IG-METAL to figure out how to void the election result.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Germany; News/Current Events; US: Tennessee
KEYWORDS: automobiles; automotive; chattanooga; igmetal; igmetall; uaw; unions; volkswagen; vw

1 posted on 04/08/2014 1:24:06 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: zeestephen

Then don’t buy VWs. Simple.


2 posted on 04/08/2014 1:27:15 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

German industrial unions are very different from the UAW as it is constituted in this country. The UAW is an organized mob of lesser-skilled individuals that rely more on their threat to continued profitable production than on any expertise they may bring to the factory floor, while the European unions first of all train craftsmen who specialize in producing a superior product, through an apprenticeship program, then firmly control how much this skilled craftsman may produce through complicated arrangements with the manufacturer, in exchange for a mutually-agreed-upon compensation. The European unions deliver a real and tangible advantage for the employer, not present in the negotiations between UAW and the manufacturers.


3 posted on 04/08/2014 1:48:11 AM PDT by alloysteel (Selective and willful ignorance spells doom, to both victim and perpetrator - mostly the perp.)
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To: alloysteel

Sounds almost like advocacy for the social market economy.


4 posted on 04/08/2014 1:53:41 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: alloysteel

I’m still driving a 30 year old Mercedes I bought for $100 ten years ago.


5 posted on 04/08/2014 2:00:13 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: alloysteel

Yes, but keep in mind that it’s the German Union that’s trying to get the vote voided. I see three possibilities:

They are ignorant of the differences you describe

They are acting in collusion with the UAW due to some sort of off the books pact

They want the UAW in so that the factory can fail (as a previous unionized VW factory in the US did) and jobs will be brought home to Germany.

Personally, my moneys on the last option. Because inthink that German union leaders are smarter and more politically savvy than the brute force thugs who run the US unions.


6 posted on 04/08/2014 2:00:55 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: zeestephen

Wow, the vote non-union was big news down here. I think more than a few will be disappointed that they asked for the vote then just spit on the workers that voted that way.


7 posted on 04/08/2014 2:03:30 AM PDT by LowOiL ("Abomination" sure sounds like "ObamaNation" to me.)
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To: zeestephen
Volkwagen should stay focused on it's core business of making cars in a right to work state which does not care for unions much. I would guess they knew that when they chose the location?

That is unless they are playing nice with Obama's goon-squads at the request of the NLRB and union activists. Playing both sides just burns you in the middle.

8 posted on 04/08/2014 2:04:53 AM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The 240D and 300D will run forever. Parts are a cost burden however. Very pricey spares.


9 posted on 04/08/2014 2:08:19 AM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: blackdog

O’Reilly and others, believe it or not.


10 posted on 04/08/2014 2:16:07 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Are parts for those cars as expensive as some people would lead us to believe?


11 posted on 04/08/2014 2:23:44 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: blackdog

Those are naturally-aspirated diesels IIRC, right?


12 posted on 04/08/2014 2:26:06 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

No, or I sure wouldn’t be able to own one. Some parts are expensive, but what car doesn’t have pricey parts? The Model T, Maverick and old Beetle are long gone. There’s no such thing as an “easy to work on” modern car, at least not in this country. Find a retired Mercedes or other diesel mechanic and you’ll be in hog heaven.


13 posted on 04/08/2014 2:28:17 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: alloysteel

At the end of the day, they’re both a monopoly of labor.


14 posted on 04/08/2014 2:28:22 AM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: Olog-hai

Yep. Lead sleds on wheels. Perfect cars for your children. Zero to sixty in 30 seconds. Well balanced in snow and ice. Safe and harder to be stupid in than most cars. Very spartan.


15 posted on 04/08/2014 2:29:07 AM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: Olog-hai

Mine is a 300D turbo diesel. Have never ever seen the turbocharger.


16 posted on 04/08/2014 2:29:26 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: Olog-hai

Yes, because they are made by little union gnomes in the Bavarian forest.


17 posted on 04/08/2014 2:31:54 AM PDT by Lockbox
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To: blackdog

I’m thinking more like 0-60 in about 11 seconds, but once I get rolling you’ll see it was built for the autobahn. Over-engineered in so many ways. Electric windows, but the cruise control gave up the ghost many moons ago and I’ve never bothered to get it fixed.


18 posted on 04/08/2014 2:32:18 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: zeestephen

The Germans...looking to bo for help...on totalitarianism

And that’s all anyone needs to know about our situation


19 posted on 04/08/2014 2:34:52 AM PDT by stanne
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I have a friend who drives only circa 1977 ~ 1980 diesel Rabbits from VW. He has about five of them and rotates them as needed. They get 50 mpg, and are easy to work on.

Actually Chevrolet made a Diesel Chevette in the late 70's and early 80's which was a great car. Unfortunately GM ruined it's reputation so badly on the 350 engine modified for diesel in the same time period that the Diesel Chevette suffered an early death from the line.

20 posted on 04/08/2014 2:34:52 AM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: blackdog

The Cosworth Vega

21 posted on 04/08/2014 2:40:46 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

German products are changing. Vw has significant quality problems now.


22 posted on 04/08/2014 3:10:44 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: zeestephen

Can’t Obama just issue an executive order?


23 posted on 04/08/2014 3:11:01 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: zeestephen

I think it was GM’s Union plant in Tennessee that closed under Obama Motors. It was Union Boeing in Oak Ridge that about a year after a long strike was shuttered as well. A unionized tire manufacturing company closed as well. Unions in general are not that popular here. Nor wanted.


24 posted on 04/08/2014 3:15:49 AM PDT by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: zeestephen

And in true union fashion, they would rather destroy and close the plant than not have control.


25 posted on 04/08/2014 3:50:05 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: cva66snipe

Union Toyota in California as well.


26 posted on 04/08/2014 3:56:49 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (God is not the author of confusion. 1 Cor 13: 33)
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To: driftdiver
German products are changing.

Vw has significant quality problems now.

Since production of the original Beetle ended, VW has had quality/reliability/durability problems.

I drive a German car, but I've never thought of German cars as being trouble-free.

27 posted on 04/08/2014 4:02:46 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: zeestephen

Those interested should keep in mind that VW includes the brands Audi, Bentley, Bugatti, Lamborghini, Porsche, and Ducati available in the USA, and Euro brands Seat, Skoda, Scania and Man.


28 posted on 04/08/2014 4:24:05 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: blackdog

Memories of a disaster, the GM gas and diesel hybrid.


29 posted on 04/08/2014 4:49:30 AM PDT by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.)
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To: blackdog

I liked the rabbit that Stephanie Zimbalist drove in Remington Steele. Stephanie was the better part of package with or without the rabbit.


30 posted on 04/08/2014 4:52:24 AM PDT by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.)
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To: jjotto

Don’t forget Rolls Royce. VW/Porsche/Audi owns Rolls Royce.

At least the CEO THOUGHT he bought Rolls Royce and Bentley together.

Alas, BMW got Rolls Royce automobiles and VW et.al. got the Rolls Royce aircraft engine plant.

When that happened it was a sign to me that VW et.al. was toast.

Then came the VW Phaeton...


31 posted on 04/08/2014 4:57:51 AM PDT by BBB333 (Q: Which is grammatically correct? Joe Biden IS or Joe Biden ARE an idiot?)
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To: wally_bert

Coming soon...... diesel /natural gas hybrid


32 posted on 04/08/2014 5:01:29 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: BBB333

Right you are, kinda.

Rolls-Royce is actually a BMW brand with Mini, but the relationship is a bit complicated.


33 posted on 04/08/2014 5:13:27 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: zeestephen

In early 1993, Volkswagen decided to start mass marketing a car for homosexuals. It was called the Volkswagen Rabbit. They were the first company to proudly, publicly endorse homosexuality. The first to portray homosexual men in a commercial, holding hands while cruising.

No conservative or Christian should ever buy a Volkswagen,

The King of queers.


34 posted on 04/08/2014 5:14:50 AM PDT by Flavious_Maximus
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To: Sooth2222

I own an ‘02 Carerra.
Trouble free.


35 posted on 04/08/2014 5:34:09 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Rip it out by the roots.)
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To: zeestephen

Tell me again, why do we bother voting?


36 posted on 04/08/2014 7:43:52 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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To: cva66snipe

One of the things that love about the South is the abject hatred for the Socialist (i.e. Communist) Unions. If that ever changes, then I will know that the wrong people from up North have immigrated to the South (e.g. see South Florida and Virginia).


37 posted on 04/08/2014 8:04:41 AM PDT by ohioman
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I remember a friend of mine had a standard Vega that had a V6 shoehorned in. Left a Cosworth in the dust one time.

Nowadays, base model economy cars from Japan have twin cams and four valves per cylinder standard.


38 posted on 04/08/2014 8:52:17 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: zeestephen

You mean other countries outsource jobs to the US?


39 posted on 04/08/2014 8:53:42 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Olog-hai

Is there any 4 cyl from anybody that doesn’t have that in 2014?


40 posted on 04/08/2014 8:54:10 AM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: alloysteel
The European unions deliver a real and tangible advantage for the employer, not present in the negotiations between UAW and the manufacturers.

There are basically three types of Unions in the US: Public employees, trade Unions and worker Unions.

Most would agrees that Public Employee Unions do NOT offer any benefit for the employee or the employer, which is the citizen. All it does it funnel money to Democrats and enrich Union Bosses.

Next are trade Unions. I am not opposed to trade Unions, but I am opposed to some of the members attitude that jobs should automatically go to trade Union employees. My opinion is that a trade Union is a business and this business must compete for business. It must show "brand" advantage over non-union labor. I have lived in areas where you would not dare hire anyone that wasn't a Union Shop, but I have also been an areas where it did not make a difference or trade Labor was a negative.

Worker Unions must prove that they can help a company deliver superior quality and value in order to avoid extinction. But instead in the US, all they do is lobby legislators into compulsory union and little Davis Bacon laws. They only care about members is due payments and recruiting more members.

41 posted on 04/08/2014 10:41:23 AM PDT by 11th Commandment ("THOSE WHO TIRE LOSE")
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To: Olog-hai

Yep.

New V6 Accords are faster than most muscle cars from the ‘60s.


42 posted on 04/08/2014 6:06:32 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: blackdog
Unfortunately GM ruined it's reputation so badly on the 350 engine modified for diesel

That was a piece of garbage alright.

43 posted on 04/09/2014 9:33:36 AM PDT by houeto (Rand Paul, the NEW face of Establishment Republicanism!)
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To: alloysteel
train craftsmen who specialize in producing a superior product

Then why do they need a monopoly contract? Let them simply compete and the market will determine what's needed.

44 posted on 04/12/2014 5:06:19 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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