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San Francisco Chamber of Commerce ‘outraged’ over minimum wage measure
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | April 7, 2014 | By Julie Balise

Posted on 04/08/2014 7:55:23 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

The San Francisco Chamber of Commerce is “outraged” over a ballot measure to raise San Francisco’s minimum wage to $15 an hour, saying in a statement on Monday that it “flies in the face of collaboration and partnership.”

The measure would lift base pay about 40 percent from its current $10.74, making San Francisco’s minimum wage the highest in the country. Activists were expected to file papers on Monday for the November ballot.

The measure, designed by SEIU Local 1021, the Alliance of Californians for Community Empowerment, and other activist groups, would give companies with fewer than 100 employees until 2017 to raise wages to $15 an hour.

(Excerpt) Read more at blog.sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: acorn; california; local1021; minimumwage; sanfrancisco; seiu; unions

1 posted on 04/08/2014 7:55:24 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

looks like folks are gonna have to drive to Nevada for an affordable big Mac

(the McD and KFC parking lots here already are EMPTY)


2 posted on 04/08/2014 7:57:21 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Brilliant move for Obama’s Marxist stooges - all employers who can’t fire their employees will go bankrupt.


3 posted on 04/08/2014 8:01:54 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: silverleaf

Lots of employees in SF are going to be out of work. But the libs don’t care. Ideology trumps reason and common sense.


4 posted on 04/08/2014 8:03:15 AM PDT by Signalman
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To: Jack Hammer

I think they should just quit pussyfooting around and raise the minimum wage to $100 an hour, nationwide. Then we’d all be rich and we could worry about more important stuff.

;-P


5 posted on 04/08/2014 8:03:18 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Screw the C of C, they are anti-TeaParty and pro-GOPe.

Let them run to mcconnell and see what he does to, er I mean, for them.

6 posted on 04/08/2014 8:04:02 AM PDT by Pietro
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Good. Let them vote on it. It’ll no doubt pass. Good. I’m sorry for all the small business owners who will have a hard to impossible time coping with it, but let them vote it in, and watch what happens. Small business guys, prepare to hunker down, cut hours way back, close on Sundays, and Wednesdays — whatever it takes to bank the fires and ride it out. The city will literally die on the vine. Good. Be idiots, and pay the price.

Anybody with brains, get outta there — the trend is hopeless when they do stuff like this. Move. Quick.


7 posted on 04/08/2014 8:05:31 AM PDT by William of Barsoom (In Omnia, Paratus)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Make it $100 an hour, to prove what idiots Leftists are.


8 posted on 04/08/2014 8:06:29 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: cuban leaf

Shhhhh - don’t give Obama any ideas, he’s just loopy enough to do it nation-wide.


9 posted on 04/08/2014 8:07:02 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: silverleaf

You make an interesting point. As some states drive min wage to unsustainable levels, bordering state service businesses will prosper.

Due to laws and taxes in Illinois, the Indiana side of the Illinois border adjacent to Chicago is loaded with fireworks, liquor, tobacco, and motor fuel stores.


10 posted on 04/08/2014 8:07:41 AM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: silverleaf
Or instead of paying two employees $10.74/hr, they'll pay one employee $15/hr, and buy a food ordering kiosk.


11 posted on 04/08/2014 8:08:40 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: William of Barsoom
...close on Sundays, and Wednesdays...

Shopping center leases often don't allow that. You have to remain open all the hours the center is open, or get fined. Whether the fine is more than the $15/hour depends on how many people your business requires.

12 posted on 04/08/2014 8:10:01 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL-GALT-DELETE])
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To: William of Barsoom
whatever it takes to bank the fires and ride it out

There won't be any riding it out. Look at Detroit. It's a total mess, and yet the politicians aren't even admitting their policies are the problem. Politicians in SF aren't any different. One thing bureaucrats and politicans NEVER do is admit that they're wrong. It's always "We didn't go far enough."

13 posted on 04/08/2014 8:10:09 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: nascarnation

The problem being that prices on the Indiana side will rise to match Chicago prices as less taxes and regulation will mean more profits if an Indiana merchant raises his prices.


14 posted on 04/08/2014 8:10:53 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: Sooth2222

I suspect in 10 yrs, most fast food emporiums will have two employees per shift, and most of their work will be receiving / stocking the food and janitorial work.


15 posted on 04/08/2014 8:11:00 AM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: Signalman
But the libs don’t care. Ideology trumps reason and common sense.

I think it's more insidious than that. It provides them a transition to another wedge issue - the evil corporations would rather hurt innocent workers in protest rather than dip into their excessive profits to provide a living wage. Yadda, yadda.
16 posted on 04/08/2014 8:12:34 AM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

Prices there are higher than in middle Indiana but still much lower than Illinois. This “phenomena” has been going on for decades.

Competition still works.


17 posted on 04/08/2014 8:12:36 AM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
...saying in a statement on Monday that it “flies in the face of collaboration and partnership.”

Marxists aren't interested in collaborating with the likes of you. The only reason you haven't taken a bullet yet is that they are still a little bit afraid the old order might be aroused from its slumber and take a ferocious vengeance via the Second Amendment. The day they are no longer afraid, watch out.

18 posted on 04/08/2014 8:12:55 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL-GALT-DELETE])
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Wait, the city of Seatac, WA already passed an ordinance to raise the minimum wage to $15.00. It was a close vote. Not in affect yet, we will see what happens.
19 posted on 04/08/2014 8:15:08 AM PDT by stubernx98 (cranky, but reasonable)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

How many are familiar with the term “Sack?” It has started, first under color of law and soon not even that pretext.


20 posted on 04/08/2014 8:20:20 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Whats wrong with these morons, why not make it $25.00 an hour and be done with it? This way we know the end game has arrived, and stop the bleeding..


21 posted on 04/08/2014 8:20:41 AM PDT by carlo3b (Corrupt politicians make the other ten percent look bad.. Henry Kissinger)
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To: Jack Hammer

Well it puts workers in a new tax bracket


22 posted on 04/08/2014 8:21:42 AM PDT by molson209 (Hillary Clinton)
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Intersting that it is spearheaded by the SEIU. I was unaware that any union goons made minimum wage


23 posted on 04/08/2014 8:23:17 AM PDT by dsrtsage (One half of all people have below average IQ. In the US the number is 54%)
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24 posted on 04/08/2014 8:26:10 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: nascarnation

“In the long run” will govern. Further, the closer the Indiana merchant is to Illinois the higher his prices. It is like “COSTCO when it first started prices were much lower and now with membership fees and supply/demand their prices are just a few pennies cheaper than a supermarket.


25 posted on 04/08/2014 8:26:30 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: dsrtsage

There are union contracts that specify wages as a multiple factor of the min wage. ie Joe SEIU may be paid 2.1 times the min wage. So that factor may be in play here.


26 posted on 04/08/2014 8:26:33 AM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: Sooth2222

The rebirth of the Automat?


27 posted on 04/08/2014 8:42:01 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Ha ha. Chamber of Commerce indeed. You libs slept with the crocodile, hoping it would eat you last....or, perhaps, not at all.

You screwed up. You trusted them.

Maybe, just maybe, you ought to embrace truth instead of the constantly shifting standards of those who change their morality on the basis of “what is hip”.


28 posted on 04/08/2014 8:51:08 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

***Activists were expected to file papers on Monday***

Bet they have never started a business or met a payroll in their lives.

Leeches.


29 posted on 04/08/2014 8:55:42 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Or worked an honest job.


30 posted on 04/08/2014 8:57:33 AM PDT by sport
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To: Sooth2222

"Enjoy your *BIG ASS FRIES*"

31 posted on 04/08/2014 9:00:08 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
The measure, designed by SEIU Local 1021...

If the measure was "designed" by SEIU, you can bet your bottom dollar (no pun intended) there is a provision to raise all Union pay rates by a like amount, 40%.

32 posted on 04/08/2014 9:14:58 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: William of Barsoom

Being that it is California, I would suspect that if it is by some chance defeated by the voters, it will still be enacted. Just a rerun of Prop 8. Not sure why they even go through the emotions of putting things on the ballot - such a sham!


33 posted on 04/08/2014 9:20:34 AM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Should make the minimum wage $3000/hour. Then the folks can make some real money. /s


34 posted on 04/08/2014 9:31:06 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

They are only outraged that they didn’t propose it first...


35 posted on 04/08/2014 9:36:48 AM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

SEIU a proud member of Obama&CO.


36 posted on 04/08/2014 9:44:27 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Sooth2222

EXACTLY! The only people who lose here are the employees and soon to be former employees. It is sad, because teenagers who just want a job - any job to pay for their gas, buy a used car, save some money for college or take a girl on a date now have fewer options for work. The whole idea of minimum wage is absurd. I thought the minimum wage was an agreed upon amount between the employer and the employee. You know...choice.


37 posted on 04/08/2014 9:50:37 AM PDT by Phillyred
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To: dsrtsage
Intersting that it is spearheaded by the SEIU. I was unaware that any union goons made minimum wage

Most union contracts have a clause in them that requires an increase to the union workers' hourly rate each time the minimum wage is increased. SEIU is merely getting SF to vote SEIU a pay raise. Sweet, isn't it?

38 posted on 04/08/2014 9:55:05 AM PDT by Go Gordon (Barack McGreevey Obama)
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To: nascarnation

Same thing in Vermont/New Hampshire. On one side of the Connecticut River there are high taxes, and stringent regulations. On the other side is where all the businesses are. The people of Vermont voted for higher taxes and more regulation. Then they went shopping in New Hampshire.


39 posted on 04/08/2014 10:30:12 AM PDT by Chuckster (The longer I live the less I care about what you think.)
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To: dsrtsage
Intersting that it is spearheaded by the SEIU. I was unaware that any union goons made minimum wage

No, they don't. But the minimum wage is a benchmark and you cannot expect union workers to stand still when the minimum wage rises. They will need an increase too.

40 posted on 04/08/2014 10:33:40 AM PDT by Chuckster (The longer I live the less I care about what you think.)
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