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Eric Holder: ATF Planning to Use Drones
Breitbart's Big Government ^ | April 8, 2014 | Charlie Spiering

Posted on 04/08/2014 6:28:22 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Attorney General Eric Holder admitted Tuesday that the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives was in the process of looking at the use of domestic drones.

Rep. Ted Poe, R-Texas, questioned Holder during a House Judiciary Committee hearing, asking the Attorney General if he believed if the Federal Aviation Administration or Congress should regulate of drone use.

“Would you think that it would be better that Congress intervene and employ legislation safeguarding the Fourth Amendment, right of privacy basically on citizens or do you suggest as Attorney General that the FAA still control who gets a drone or not?” Poe asked.

Holder did not specifically address Poe’s question but reveled some details of the use of drones in the Justice department....

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: atf; banglist; batf; domesticdrones; dontdronemebro; drones; dronesus; dronesusa; ericholder; fastandfurious; holder; surveillance; tedpoe; texas
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1 posted on 04/08/2014 6:28:22 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Just a thin line away from having drones aid in “enforcement” by killing Americans - all without due process.


2 posted on 04/08/2014 6:31:33 PM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Who but a TYRANT shoves down another man's throat what he has exempted himself from?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m sure if there’s another Waco-type event you’ll see the BATF with quite an armada of mil spec drones.


3 posted on 04/08/2014 6:32:26 PM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All


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4 posted on 04/08/2014 6:33:03 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

great, these assoles can’ t kill enough innocent people.


5 posted on 04/08/2014 6:33:19 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Both Bammy and H0lder ARE Drones.


6 posted on 04/08/2014 6:34:13 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Ooohhh!

Target practice.

Let's see...3 and 1/2 inch magnum number four turkey load or my new .410, with the rifled barrel and a three inch slug?

Or maybe my new Springfield in .30 caliber.

Hell, I might even invest in a Barrett for this.

In any event, it has to get close enough and if I know the ATF chicken-s^^ts, they'll stay well out of range whilst they spy and generally shred a few more of our Constitutional rights.

7 posted on 04/08/2014 6:36:47 PM PDT by OldSmaj (I am an avowed enemy of islam and obama is a damned fool and traitor. Questions?)
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To: nascarnation

“if” - you misspelled “when”


8 posted on 04/08/2014 6:40:50 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

How to Hack Other People’s Drones for Less Than $400

http://www.tomsguide.com/us/skyjack-hacks-drones,news-17943.html


9 posted on 04/08/2014 6:42:55 PM PDT by Mechanicos (When did we amend the Constitution for a 2nd Federal Prohibition?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

American’s to Holdyer Constitution away from me. Looking forward to some skeet shooting!


10 posted on 04/08/2014 6:43:54 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Bracelets drones...don’t fund it.


11 posted on 04/08/2014 6:48:17 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

How about a few Hellfire missiles too, eh BATFEXYZQRSTUV?


12 posted on 04/08/2014 6:52:37 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("A man who damns money obtained it dishonorably; a man who respects it has earned it." --Ayn Rand)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We will use US drones on communists soon.


13 posted on 04/08/2014 6:53:01 PM PDT by SADMILLIE
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Here’s the thing: There’re tens if not hundreds of millions of us. Hellfire and other missiles do not grow on trees and are mucho expensive. Yes, they could kill several thousands of people with those in stock. Then what? Can’t put a railgun on a drone.


14 posted on 04/08/2014 6:55:24 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Should an Attorney General who is currently guilty of Contempt of Congress be given the power to order Obamadrones to fly under his command?


15 posted on 04/08/2014 6:58:18 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

How long before they start launching Hellfire missiles at us?


16 posted on 04/08/2014 7:00:58 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: nascarnation
I’m sure if there’s another Waco-type event you’ll see the BATF with quite an armada of mil spec drones.

There WILL be more Waco events. I am only surprised it hasn't happened yet, but it will happen. Also, some guy will decide he won't take anymore BS from the government, and have a falling down moment. I think that is exactly what the Feds are wishing for, their Reichstag fire.

17 posted on 04/08/2014 7:03:24 PM PDT by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Vet 70-71 Msgt US Air Force, retired)
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To: Graewoulf

Good point. Considering how he’s violated the law and is party to murder through Fast and Furious... Drones are fair game. Looks like I’ll be getting that remote controlled jet powered F16 up in the air and armed sooner than later. Wonder how good the stick jockies controlling the drones are at an old fashioned dog fight.


18 posted on 04/08/2014 7:03:47 PM PDT by BCR #226 (02/07 SOT www.extremefirepower.com...The BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I wonder why someone doesn’t follow him around and record every moment of his life when he’s not behind closed doors.


19 posted on 04/08/2014 7:09:32 PM PDT by Bogey78O (We had a good run. Coulda been great still.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Anti-drone drones coming. Only a matter of time.


20 posted on 04/08/2014 7:09:54 PM PDT by Steely Tom (How do you feel about robbing Peter's robot?)
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To: Bogey78O

Because they don’t want to die?


21 posted on 04/08/2014 7:09:59 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: Steely Tom

A Gatling gun in .22LR would work well in that application.


22 posted on 04/08/2014 7:10:59 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

See my #12.


23 posted on 04/08/2014 7:11:50 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Think outside the box. Something much simpler and readily available.


24 posted on 04/08/2014 7:19:29 PM PDT by USAF80
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To: USAF80

Have to get out the ole 10 guage and practice
wing shooting with buckshot.


25 posted on 04/08/2014 7:21:15 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Think of these drones as target practice.

F U B O!


26 posted on 04/08/2014 7:27:00 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: tet68

They fly out of range.


27 posted on 04/08/2014 7:28:34 PM PDT by USAF80
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Somewhere, there is a box on the ground where men fly these drones. Somewhere nearby is a dining facility.

Try the peach cobbler.

/johnny

28 posted on 04/08/2014 7:30:27 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: nascarnation
I’m sure if there’s another Waco-type event you’ll see the BATF with quite an armada of mil spec drones.

If there is another Waco-style event, they are going to need air cover.

29 posted on 04/08/2014 7:30:55 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

No man is an island.


30 posted on 04/08/2014 7:32:39 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: USAF80

Lawn darts?


31 posted on 04/08/2014 7:33:12 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Are they going to sell them to drug dealers under the title of “Slimey and Corrupt”.

Of course mac daddy will know nothing about this until he reads it in a newspaper from Iran.


32 posted on 04/08/2014 7:48:43 PM PDT by chiefqc
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Oh crap, no nobodies dog is going to be safe!!!!!
33 posted on 04/08/2014 7:57:53 PM PDT by oldenuff2no
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We just simply need to build anti-drone drones. Cheap knockoffs that are expendable and crash into the nice expensive ones so we can have and use them.


34 posted on 04/08/2014 8:05:27 PM PDT by SgtHooper (If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Cruz had to ask Holder FOUR TIMES if he thought it’d be legal to use a drone inside of the USA to blow up an American sitting in Starbucks:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdLtv5qAgo4

(3 min)

It’s pretty clear Holder believes he could.


35 posted on 04/08/2014 8:11:08 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: gaijin

Well then, I imagine that’s a two-way street, nicht wahr?


36 posted on 04/08/2014 8:13:49 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Easy solution. Locate, close with and kill the drone operators and their families until no one wants to operate drones anymore.

Don’t boo-hoo or bemoan me; the federal government is gearing up to do the same with you and yours should they feel they have a reason; they just haven’t armed the drones over America yet (that we know of). In the meantime, they will just go about conventional methods as always ala Waco and Ruby Ridge (women and children hardest hit; fact).


37 posted on 04/08/2014 8:36:27 PM PDT by Ghost of SVR4 (So many are so hopelessly dependent on the government that they will fight to protect it.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The way to take out drones is to take out their bases and supply lines.

Once they're up, you're a target.

38 posted on 04/08/2014 8:38:11 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

That’s how the V-1 and V-2 threats to Britain were removed.


39 posted on 04/08/2014 8:40:36 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: Ghost of SVR4; Mariner
“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”

― Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

40 posted on 04/08/2014 8:41:20 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: USAF80; Tax-chick
Think outside the box. Something much simpler and readily available.

Anti-drones? Send in the catz.


41 posted on 04/08/2014 8:51:59 PM PDT by Ezekiel (All who mourn the destruction of America merit the celebration of her rebirth.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I can, and have on occasion, brought down crows in flight with my 220 swift. Now, my eyes aren’t what they used to be, but I’m pretty sure a drone wouldn’t stand a chance.


42 posted on 04/08/2014 8:59:13 PM PDT by FunkyZero (... I've got a Grand Piano to prop up my mortal remains)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
How long before they start launching Hellfire missiles at us?

That depends on when some of the American people start genuinely resisting despotism.

When real resistance starts, drones start executing Americans on US soil.

43 posted on 04/08/2014 9:00:18 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ((If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He doesn’t know anything about Obamacare, but he’s got ‘Skynet’ wired. Hmmmm.


44 posted on 04/08/2014 9:05:04 PM PDT by tumblindice (Are all Democrats inveterate, habitual liars?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Does that mean the Mexican cartels get them too?


45 posted on 04/08/2014 9:05:10 PM PDT by montag813
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To: montag813

Probably just one of them, for now. You know-the highest bidder...


46 posted on 04/08/2014 9:30:28 PM PDT by snuffy smiff (Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Speaking of aholes, Holder deserves an anal drone.


47 posted on 04/08/2014 10:00:07 PM PDT by Yehuda (Search youtube and listen to "Islams Not For Me".)
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To: TurboZamboni
Don't look now, but from the Breitbart page, this is a screenshot of what looks like a drone coming out of the head of Holder's sulky aide:


48 posted on 04/08/2014 10:03:10 PM PDT by Yehuda (Search youtube and listen to "Islams Not For Me".)
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To: The Sons of Liberty
Just a thin line away from having drones aid in “enforcement” by killing Americans - all without due process.

Listen, peasant - the drone "feared for its life".

49 posted on 04/08/2014 10:20:22 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

bkmk


50 posted on 04/08/2014 11:52:33 PM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44
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