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RAND: By our estimate, 3.9 million people signed up for OCare, not 7.1 million like the WH says
Hot Air ^ | April 8, 2014 | Allahpundit

Posted on 04/08/2014 9:38:29 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

A caveat right off the bat: RAND’s estimate only runs through March 28 whereas the actual deadline for signing up was March 31st. Given the crush of traffic on Healthcare.gov in late March, many more people could have signed up over those last three days than were captured by these numbers. On the other hand, the White House was claiming six million sign-ups as of March 27. There’s no way to reconcile that with RAND’s data.

One of them is wrong. Maybe both, in fact.

There’s a big spike in Medicaid, just as everyone expected. There’s a less big but still seven-digit drop in coverage on the individual market, as people discovered that if you like your plan, you might not be able to keep it. There’s not quite four million sign-ups on the new ObamaCare exchanges, not seven million and change like Obama insisted in the Rose Garden. And then there’s that eye-popping “ESI” category. That’s “employer-sponsored insurance,” the sort of coverage that 100 million people already have through their jobs. Er, why would eight million people have suddenly gained that type of coverage last year when the U.S. labor force assuredly didn’t expand by eight million? Good question. Says RAND:

Some of these newly insured individuals may have taken up an employer plan as a result of the incentive created by the individual mandate; others may have newly found a job. The U.S. unemployment rate fell slightly between September 2013 and March 2014, so part of the increase in ESI enrollment could have been due to economic recovery rather than the ACA. While the 8.2-million-person increase seems large, more than 100 million 18- to 64-year-olds were covered by ESI in 2013....

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: obama; obamacare

1 posted on 04/08/2014 9:38:29 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

signed up. now how many paid? 10-20%?


2 posted on 04/08/2014 9:42:43 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What is that? One percent of the US population?


3 posted on 04/08/2014 9:45:28 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Lemme guess, Obama is inflating the Obamacare count with people who only have log-in accounts.


4 posted on 04/08/2014 9:47:00 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
WHAT? Obama Lie? Say it aint so! /s
5 posted on 04/08/2014 9:50:49 PM PDT by Chgogal (Obama "hung the SEALs out to dry, basically exposed them like a set of dog balls..." CMH)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

For the next 7 months, if you want insurance you can’t buy it. Does anyone know where someone that is healthy can get coverage?


6 posted on 04/08/2014 10:00:17 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
7.1 million!

Jawohl, mein BlackenWhitenFuhrer!

JAWOHL!

JAWOHL!

JAWOHL!

Gosh - nobody can figure out why the "ordinary Germans" did nothing while the legal government of Germany legally executed all those Jews, and cripples, and all the other undesirables...

7 posted on 04/08/2014 10:00:58 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: gunsequalfreedom

The Religious Alternative To Obamacare’s Individual Mandate
http://www.npr.org/2013/09/28/227238887/the-religious-alternative-to-obamacares-individual-mandate

Christian alternative to ObamaCare growing fast as deadline nears
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/03/03/christian-alternative-to-obamacare-growing-fast-as-deadline-nears/


8 posted on 04/08/2014 10:04:34 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Obama lying again ...... Imagine that !


9 posted on 04/08/2014 10:12:01 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Some DEMAND lies, others tolerate them, but more look the other way...

It’s beer and football.. maybe some pizza..... generally..
Most will think about health care tomorrow.. if at all..
most generally could care less Zero STOLE the election..


10 posted on 04/08/2014 10:13:48 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: hosepipe

Like Mark Levin said.... OBAMA-CARE “is” THE REVOLUTION...
It’s a political DRUG... The Opiate of the voting class..
America is drugged out of it’s mind.. political heroin..


11 posted on 04/08/2014 10:18:10 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Maybe there’s a giant class of young adults out there who are employed but who have been declining coverage through work because they didn’t want to take a hit on their paycheck.

Yeah, and maybe giant monkeys will fly out of my butt.

12 posted on 04/08/2014 10:21:42 PM PDT by dr_lew
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This just can’t be true! I watched about 5 minutes of SNL Saturday, the most in several years, and they were making fun of FOX News for doubting Obamacare numbers.

Oh well, not that anybody watches a bunch of government stooges anymore....


13 posted on 04/08/2014 10:31:57 PM PDT by Dogbert41 (Up yours NSA !)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well... I’m one of them and I’m pretty pissed off about it. I retired early two years ago, at age 50. That’s not to say I will never work again, but I’m not actively looking and I’m not on unemployment. Until last December I had a Blue Cross policy that I liked just fine. It was a bit more than I wished, but it was affordable enough. It was essentially a catastrophic policy. Worked for me. It covered the doctors I wanted and the hospitals I needed.

Obamacare killed it. Forced me to go on the WA state exchange to find an “approved” plan. Funny thing is, I now have virtually no income. I have plenty of assets (7 figures+) that I live on for now, but they didn’t ask me about that. All they wanted to know was my income. So I filled out the form and used real numbers. My ONLY option was AppleCare (WA Medicaid). No other choices.

Just for giggles I tried some other options... If I lied and said I had more income I could have gotten choices like Blue Cross... But at prices that were truly astronomical. Crazy prices... Seven, eight hundred, even a thousand a month. Though— with the promise that these would be ameliorated by subsidies from Obamacare. Well... What’s the difference then? Getting a subsidy or just getting Medicaid?

So there it sits. I’m getting Medicaid. It scares the crap outta me. I’m terrified of actually getting sick and needing it. Can I just tell them when they’re wheeling me into the ER that I have plenty of money to pay for what I need? I hope so.

Do I feel guilty for taking Medicaid? Yes, a little. I’ve long prided myself on being a “maker” and not a “taker”. In the Atlas Shrugged sort of sense. But the Ragnar Danneskjold in me is fine with taking back from the looters some of the many hundreds of thousands of dollars I’ve paid in taxes.


14 posted on 04/08/2014 10:33:27 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Wow, thanks for that. Real interesting read at the link you provided.


15 posted on 04/08/2014 11:10:50 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We all know by now that the truth means nothing at all to this regime. They make up phony numbers and toss them out for their willing minions in the media to run with. Then the shitheads in the MSM will act like anyone who questions the numbers are the ones to blame for Obama’s failures.

That’s how it works these days in our communist run govt and media.


16 posted on 04/08/2014 11:12:10 PM PDT by Bullish (You ever notice that liberalism really just amounts to anti-morality?)
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To: dr_lew

Dude, that’s gonna hurt. Get it looked at.


17 posted on 04/09/2014 4:27:20 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (Making good people helpless doesn't make bad people harmless.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What?
You mean obammy lied?
Hard to believe.


18 posted on 04/09/2014 4:35:15 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) obammy lied and lied and lied)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Just another LIE (7.1 million) that the MSM will not cover.

I don’t think the founding fathers foresaw a propaganda machine like the MSM ever existing.


19 posted on 04/09/2014 4:39:19 AM PDT by ThomasMore (Islam is the Whore of Babylon!)
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