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Will Marco Rubio Be the Last Establishment Man Standing?
National Journal ^ | April 9, 2014 | Josh Kraushaar

Posted on 04/09/2014 10:55:33 AM PDT by C19fan

The prospective Republican presidential primary field can be broken down into three tiers: There’s the tea-party wing, where Sens. Rand Paul and Ted Cruz are already competing for the most conservative voters. There’s the gubernatorial wing, where lesser-known Republicans like Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker and Ohio Gov. John Kasich will be looking to parlay their executive experience into a spot on the national stage.

But most important to the process is the establishment wing, the candidate whom party leaders and donors gravitate toward, usually early on. Despite rumors of their demise, GOP insiders have always played a critical role in Republican presidential nominations and are showing no signs of slowing down for 2016. The establishment gravitated to Mitt Romney not long after his 2008 loss, anointed George W. Bush as the front-runner well before the 2000 presidential campaign began, and shepherded Bob Dole and George H.W. Bush through conservative insurgencies. Despite the presence of social conservatives and tea parties over the years, the Republican Party has tended to rally behind a more moderate contender.

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: 2016; aliens; amnesty; cfr; rubio; soros
In two years, Rubio has gone from Tea Party insurgent to a candidate for the GOPe standard. That is what happens when you get in bed with the likes of Schumer and Durbin. He got an ETD: Establishment Transmitted Disease.
1 posted on 04/09/2014 10:55:33 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: C19fan

Oops he was elected in 2010 so in four years.


2 posted on 04/09/2014 10:56:49 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: C19fan

A lot of that going around...beware of RINOs in Tea Party rhetoric...


3 posted on 04/09/2014 10:57:34 AM PDT by Sioux-san
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To: C19fan

“Despite the presence of social conservatives and tea parties over the years, the Republican Party has tended to rally behind a more moderate contender.”

AND LOSE......BAD


4 posted on 04/09/2014 10:58:22 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz ("Heck of a reset there, Hillary")
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To: C19fan

Rand Paul and Ted Cruz are nothing alike


5 posted on 04/09/2014 10:59:16 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: C19fan

ETD. Perfectly said.


6 posted on 04/09/2014 11:00:22 AM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: C19fan

Nah, you were right the first time. He had gone full-throttled overlord-minded sell-out within two years.


7 posted on 04/09/2014 11:00:36 AM PDT by dangus
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To: GeronL

That’s true.
They went to different law schools....


8 posted on 04/09/2014 11:02:23 AM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: C19fan

He was on FoxNews this morning and still pushing amnesty for illegals.

The subject was JBush’s comment about immigrants loving their families.

Rubio is still the same amnesty pusher as he was months ago.


9 posted on 04/09/2014 11:02:59 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: GeronL

I don’t think too many of us understand that both Paul and Cruz are squishes on immigration. Unfortunately, every potential Republican nominee we know of today will make a deal of some sort with Democrats on immigration. There is no candidate out there yet that we can really get behind.


10 posted on 04/09/2014 11:05:01 AM PDT by Oldhunk
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To: C19fan

His relationship with Schmuck also says a lot about his judgment in selecting allies, all of it bad. Schmuck totally snoockered him and made him like it. Is such a rube really somebody we want going up against the likes of Vlad Putin. Oh, but no problem, Rube can always get the advice of that real genius, John McCain, on any really serious problems.
ca


11 posted on 04/09/2014 11:06:08 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: nascarnation

amnesty Paul wants to dump social issues will not get my vote


12 posted on 04/09/2014 11:07:26 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: GeronL

Ryan
Rubio
Rand
Jeb
Christie
Huckabee

Who else?

ALL RINO Amnesty pushers.


13 posted on 04/09/2014 11:18:04 AM PDT by gwgn02
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To: gwgn02

bump

Rice - not that she would run


14 posted on 04/09/2014 11:19:23 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: C19fan

Rubio has not changed one iota.

He always preached amnesty to large Spanish speaking audiences, those speeches were put up on YouTube, and posters here on this forum linked to them in debates about Rubio.

Now, there were some absolute idiots who refused to digest the implications of that, and it has bitten them in the ass. Unfortunately, there also were and are a lot of posters who come to this forum while working to erase our borders.

Rubio supporters one hundred percent fell into one of those two camps.


15 posted on 04/09/2014 11:34:42 AM PDT by MrEdd (vHeck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: C19fan

rubio and jeb will be competing to see who can lewinski hispanic voters more.


16 posted on 04/09/2014 11:44:15 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: C19fan

Why is everyone glossing over Rand Paul’s being establishment?

Paul’s early campaigning seems to be focused on his establishment/rino politics.


17 posted on 04/09/2014 11:49:56 AM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: C19fan

I’m wondering if Rubio might not be better on the invasion of the US than the other RINOs. He mis-stepped badly, for sure, working with the likes of McCain and Schumer. But since then, he’s been a reliable constitutional conservative.


18 posted on 04/09/2014 11:53:49 AM PDT by grania
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To: Oldhunk; GeronL; Jim Robinson

Please provide a link to Ted Cruz being “squishy” on immigration. Thanks!


19 posted on 04/09/2014 12:28:48 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I never said or thought Cruz was


20 posted on 04/09/2014 12:29:24 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: GeronL; Oldhunk

I was asking oldhunk, who stated that, and just CCing you since he made the statement to you.


21 posted on 04/09/2014 12:30:56 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Listen to Cruz discussing an amendment he proposed to Rubio’s bill last year. Then tell me he’s not a squish on the issue.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iloBCB59O0#t=264


22 posted on 04/09/2014 12:46:58 PM PDT by Oldhunk
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To: Oldhunk

You don’t realize that LEGAL immigration and ILLEGAL immigration are two different things? Who is your boy?


23 posted on 04/09/2014 1:05:46 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sorry, anyone who is proposing to increase legal immigration to provide cheap labor for the likes of Zuckerberg doesn’t get my support. Just another crony capitalist. Cruz also seems willing to give legal status to those already here.

I wish I had someone I could support. I really admire what Scott Walker has accomplished in Wisconsin, but he is also a squish on immigration. The only prominent politician I know of that seems to have it right is Jeff Sessions.


24 posted on 04/09/2014 1:23:10 PM PDT by Oldhunk
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To: Oldhunk

Jeff Sessions is the finest man in Washington.


25 posted on 04/09/2014 1:29:18 PM PDT by Himyar
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To: Oldhunk

You do know that not enough of our kids are taking mathematics, engineering, medicine, physics and a thousand other things we need more of in this country to sustain our lead and keep our economy going, right? If there were some large surplus of Americans with degrees in the hard sciences I could see your point, but there isn’t and hasn’t been for many years. Senator Ted Cruz facing that bitter reality doesn’t make him a crony capitalist in any way. I was a recruiter and career counselor for many years. It is what it is. And again, show us where he has indicated an acceptance of amnesty.


26 posted on 04/09/2014 2:43:38 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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