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Rescued sailboat family returns safely to California aboard Navy ship
Reuters ^ | 4/9/14 | Marty Graham

Posted on 04/09/2014 3:32:32 PM PDT by SilvieWaldorfMD

(Reuters) - A family of four rescued from their sailboat after their infant daughter became seriously ill at sea returned safely to San Diego on Wednesday aboard a U.S. warship that picked them up in the Pacific over the weekend, a Navy spokeswoman said.

The parents, Eric and Charlotte Kaufman, and their two daughters, 3-year-old Cora and 1-year-old Lyra, left the Navy frigate Vandegrift after the ship arrived in port around 10 a.m. local time and proceeded to their family doctor, according to Lieutenant Lenaya Rotklein of the Third Fleet.

Rotklein declined to give any further information about the arrival of the Kaufmans at Naval Air Station North Island on San Diego Bay except to say all four family members were "stable when they departed" and were met at the port by relatives.

The family was two weeks into a planned around-the-world cruise on their 36-foot (11-metre) sloop when Lyra developed a fever and rash, prompting her parents to send a distress call to the Coast Guard by satellite phone last Thursday.

In addition to the child falling ill, the family reported that their boat was taking on water whenever they tried to start the vessel's engine, the Coast Guard said.

A four-man team from the California Air National Guard's 129th Rescue Wing was dispatched by military plane to the scene, about 1,000 miles (1,600 km) out in the Pacific off Mexico, to render medical assistance.

(Excerpt) Read more at in.reuters.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: charlottekaufman; erickaufman; idiocy; lyrakaufman; navy; obamavoters; parenting; sailboat; sailboatparents
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It's a good thing the US Navy sank their sailboat... otherwise, these morons would've tried to patch it up again and try sailing across the Pacific Ocean again...
1 posted on 04/09/2014 3:32:32 PM PDT by SilvieWaldorfMD
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

LOL My first thought was “I hope the navy sank their boat”.


2 posted on 04/09/2014 3:34:29 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD
" their boat was taking on water whenever they tried to start the vessel's engine,"

You'd think they would know more about how to fix all of the systems on their craft.

3 posted on 04/09/2014 3:35:08 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

If they didn’t have the mechanical acuity to know how to fix a leak when they ran the engine, they had no business out there.

Now, having said that, how does anyone know how accurate the reporting is on this.

Lionheart, 36’ sloop and Ann Marion, 41’ ketch. Both out of ‘Dago.(Just in case anyone wonders about my bonafides on the matter.)


4 posted on 04/09/2014 3:38:22 PM PDT by x1stcav ("The past is a foreign country: they do things differently there.")
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

And best of all, they won’t even have to pay for being rescued at the cost of millions of taxpayed dollars. Bet they’re Obama voters.


5 posted on 04/09/2014 3:38:54 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: ozzymandus

Sounds like these people should have just stayed within sight of shore.


6 posted on 04/09/2014 3:40:21 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

The assembled members of my family, including Gunner Anoreth, USCG, say these people are idiots.


7 posted on 04/09/2014 3:42:57 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Entropy is high. Wear a hat!)
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To: x1stcav
...how does anyone know how accurate the reporting is on this.

Or on anything else...maybe I'm wrong, maybe the reporter is a sailor but I wouldn't be laying any serious money down...

8 posted on 04/09/2014 3:43:04 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: cripplecreek

They should have stayed at the pool. I’m sure they have one.


9 posted on 04/09/2014 3:43:55 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

I’m just a river and lake person, but 36 ft. sounds awfully tiny for an around the world trip-anyone who would attempt it once might indeed try it again if the boat was repairable.

If they’re so gung ho, they might be safer next time if they use their insurance money to put a down payment on a 50 foot sailboat-a yacht sized one, at least...


10 posted on 04/09/2014 3:44:20 PM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD; cripplecreek

More than the boat issue these people never should have attempted this with children that young. I’ve (almost) raised four and I couldn’t begin to count the number of doctor’s office and emergency room visits when they were young. Run the risk of a serious accident or illness in the middle of the Pacific Ocean? Epic parental malpractice.


11 posted on 04/09/2014 3:46:33 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD
This is the part that got me. Defending their decision to set sail with their young children, Eric Kaufman issued a statement from sea on Sunday saying, "This is how our family has lived for seven years. ... We remain confident that we prepared as well as any sailing crew could." Their family has lived this way for 7 years???
12 posted on 04/09/2014 3:50:02 PM PDT by leapfrog0202 ("the American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of personal discovery" Sarah Palin)
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To: Texan5

36’ is snug for two adults, but manageable if your truly compatible. Throw in 2 kids? The whole idea of their bringing kids was insane and infuriating. They should donate the $ they’d have spent on this trip to a Navy benefit.


13 posted on 04/09/2014 3:50:39 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: colorado tanker

I have a 4-year-old and a 2-year-old. I asked the Assembled Family Members - most of whom have (lake) sailing experience - if they’d like to be on a 36-foot boat in the Pacific with Frank and Kathleen, and a raucous chorus of negation arose.

They don’t even want to be in the van on a 15-minute drive to church (not to mention an hour church service) with Frank and Kathleen!


14 posted on 04/09/2014 3:51:30 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Entropy is high. Wear a hat!)
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To: leapfrog0202

It probably went better in the 4 years before the first child was born.


15 posted on 04/09/2014 3:53:45 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Entropy is high. Wear a hat!)
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16 posted on 04/09/2014 3:53:51 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD; Kenny Bunk; Travis McGee
...their boat was taking on water whenever they tried to start the vessel's engine...

Now listen to me carefully. Do you have a pen? Write this down. There's a hosey looking thing that goes from a thingy that looks sort of like a can of tuna stuck to the part of the engine facing you, into a big blocky part of the engine, up top and to the side. You'll notice that one side of the big hosey is not attached to the tuna can or the blocky thing.

But in all seriousness I once did have water coming in through an air intake on a Yanmar 3GM30F... No kidding. I never figured that one out.
17 posted on 04/09/2014 3:56:00 PM PDT by golux
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

I don’t understand why the US Navy, California National Guard, US Coast Guard got involved. They were off the coast of Mexico, about 1000 miles away from San Diego. Just how far does American jurisdiction go?


18 posted on 04/09/2014 3:57:00 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego (m)
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To: EDINVA

Well, the trapped-with-kids-on-a-boat thing did enter my mind, but I was thinking more in terms of vessel size as it pertains to safety. Even the Vikings crewed a 40-50 ft. vessel for an ocean voyage, and they knew what they were doing, and where they were going...


19 posted on 04/09/2014 3:57:13 PM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: Tax-chick

Well, you could bring a TV and a CD of every Disney and Pixar cartoon ever made. But after a week of that the parents would want to turn around and go home.


20 posted on 04/09/2014 3:57:15 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

Send them a bill .


21 posted on 04/09/2014 3:59:18 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

It leaked when they ran the engine eh? Sounds like the stuffing box needed to be repacked, which ain’t exactly rocket science.


22 posted on 04/09/2014 3:59:20 PM PDT by Edward Teach
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To: Tax-chick

Thanks. I had a feeling that would be the consensus :-)


23 posted on 04/09/2014 4:00:58 PM PDT by rabidralph
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To: Paladin2

In an earlier story about them, they insisted that their boat was in great shape and that their daughter was cleared to travel after “recovering” from her illness.


24 posted on 04/09/2014 4:02:15 PM PDT by rabidralph
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To: Texan5

I think 33+ has worked well for many.


25 posted on 04/09/2014 4:06:21 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: fatima

Agree! If a bridge out here has water over it during/after a rain and you drive your truck into it and get swept away-if you survive and the county has to rescue you, you are given the bill from hell, which you will pay one way or another...


26 posted on 04/09/2014 4:07:07 PM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: Paladin2

I going to guess that they were experienced sailors, rather than wannabees-I don’t think I would want to go there unless I were Thor Hyerdahl-was that the name of that guy who proved the Polynesians did it?


27 posted on 04/09/2014 4:10:48 PM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

I’m not one to generally defend gross stupidity, and I have to assume that anyone who is prepared enough to have a sat phone is likely prepared enough with basic sailcraft and knowledge of their boat.

But all the dumping on this family... I’m aghast at how much this ended up costing the taxpayers, and truly wonder why they get to walk away scott-free, but when I compare it to a similar family living in taxpayer paid housing, both adults not working, food stamps, WIC, free health care, etc, etc, etc, the overall ‘costs’ kinda balance out in my book.

While I’d never attempt such a thing (and really can’t imagine two toddlers on a boat for more than a few hours...), least they’re not sitting in government housing sucking at the public teet. Oh, wait, their sailboat is sunk... Maybe that’s just where they are going.


28 posted on 04/09/2014 4:12:56 PM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: Texan5
"Thor Hyerdahl"

I think he only proved that they could have.

Most evidence apparently indicates that the Polynesians did not start on the West coast of South America.

29 posted on 04/09/2014 4:13:16 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Texan5

Yup.


30 posted on 04/09/2014 4:13:58 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: Paladin2

Thanks-I couldn’t remember exactly what he did, but he must have been a good sailor. I think the prevailing theory is that the Polynesians came to S. America from someplace else, too.

I’m with those who think people could have gone just about anywhere with a boat during much of the last ice age, because with the lower sea levels, they would have only been out of sight of land for brief periods. Which is what it sounds like the family in the article should have done-stay in sight of land...


31 posted on 04/09/2014 4:22:10 PM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: colorado tanker

Back in the 1990s, when Anoreth and Bill were babies, we would all recite “Home for a Bunny,” “Sheep in a Jeep,” and “Who are Baby’s Friends?” during car trips. Looking back, I wonder how we survived. Cranking up the country music, perhaps.

I remember going on a motorboat trip on Lake Tenkiller in Oklahoma with those two. Bill (used to be Billy) was only about 18 months then. Terrifying. Little kids want to climb off things, and they usually can’t swim.


32 posted on 04/09/2014 4:22:11 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Entropy is high. Wear a hat!)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Just how far does American jurisdiction go?

Anoreth's Coast Guard cutter went to Borneo, Indonesia, Singapore, Thailand ...

Even in these declining-empire days, American jurisdiction goes as far as we're willing to push it. We haz teh teknolojies.

33 posted on 04/09/2014 4:23:54 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Entropy is high. Wear a hat!)
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To: rabidralph

We may be a bunch of drunk suburban goofballs, but we know better than taking toddlers on a round-the-world boat trip. Shoot, we know better than taking toddlers to Walmart, if we can possibly avoid it.


34 posted on 04/09/2014 4:25:24 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Entropy is high. Wear a hat!)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

“It’s a good thing the US Navy sank their sailboat... otherwise, these morons would’ve tried to patch it up again and try sailing across the Pacific Ocean again...”

It wouldn’t bother me if they try again,I just hope they get to pay the full cost of the rescue effort


35 posted on 04/09/2014 4:25:28 PM PDT by Figment
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

Those poor children.


36 posted on 04/09/2014 4:26:31 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Tax-chick

Yep, one of my emergency room visits was for a kid’s fall out of tree that resulted in a nasty gash that took stitches. I found out years later the same kid liked to climb up on our roof from a second story balcony and hang out up there. Put a stop to that when she tried to get the younger kids involved.


37 posted on 04/09/2014 4:29:51 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: kingu

I’m gonna say what everyone’s thinking but too gutless to. SMASH them financially. Destroy them. Obliterate them. Send them a bill so big and punishing they BEG the state to take their children rather than let them starve.

Then refuse them. Zero assistance. ZERO!

Until ppl are utterly ruined, absolutely destroyed to the point their own children hate them for ruining their lives and their families turn on them, this stupid crap will go on. Take every stinking dime that might cross their hands until they’re living in a cardboard box and eating out of trash cans at McDonalds, and then confiscate the cardboard box too.

Nothing short of absolute brutality is going to get the point across.


38 posted on 04/09/2014 4:32:49 PM PDT by Fire_on_High (RIP City of Heroes and Paragon Studios, victim of the Obamaconomy.)
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To: colorado tanker
Some folks need more lessons about basic physics than others.

OTOH, Gradient is the Elixir of Youth.

39 posted on 04/09/2014 4:36:01 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: cripplecreek

Idiot parents should be brought up on child endangerment charges, who brings thier kids on a sail boat going round the world on an ocean? The perfect storm comes to mind


40 posted on 04/09/2014 4:37:40 PM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: colorado tanker

Oh yeah, it’s good to have volunteers to go up in the bosun’s chair to fix stuff.


41 posted on 04/09/2014 4:37:41 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: rabidralph; Paladin2; EDINVA

It appears that the baby had not finished her entire prescription meds for the Salmonella Poisoning she had a few weeks ago before embarking on the trip. In other words, the meds were for 2 weeks, or something like that, and she got better after a week and they left shortly after that.

Also, I want to know if the doctor who cleared her was their family doctor or a Mexican ‘doctor’... they spent a few days in Cabo.

They were traveling to New Zealand.

NEW ZEALAND! Where it’s Fall-turning-to-Winter!!

Like my Puerto Rican grandma used to say: “Idiotas! Cretinos!”


42 posted on 04/09/2014 4:38:29 PM PDT by SilvieWaldorfMD (A Realistically Really Real Housewife)
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To: Paladin2
" their boat was taking on water whenever they tried to start the vessel's engine,"

XCUUUUSE Me. It was a SAILBOAT. Doesn't really need an engine. See also: Columbus, Henry Hudson, Capt. Kidd, Magellan etc. etc. San Diego harbor hobby skippers should not venture into deep water.

43 posted on 04/09/2014 4:38:38 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: colorado tanker

I have a friend with 13 children. One day, apropos of the relevant activity, she asked me, “Do your children pull the stuffing out of the sofa in front of guests?” and I replied, “No, not yet, but they jump off the roof in front of police officers.”

She said, “Oh, mine have never done THAT!”

“That’s because you don’t have police officers living on your street!”


44 posted on 04/09/2014 4:49:42 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Entropy is high. Wear a hat!)
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To: Tax-chick

Remember Please Don't Eat the Daisies? It wasn't until I became a parent that I realized it was a documentary.

45 posted on 04/09/2014 4:59:49 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: Texan5

Even the Vikings crewed a 40-50 ft. vessel for an ocean voyage, and they knew what they were doing, and where they were going...

And I seriously doubt that any Viking ever undertook such a sail as lightly as these idiots seem to have done.


46 posted on 04/09/2014 5:02:22 PM PDT by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: TalBlack

Vikings did not sail with babies.


47 posted on 04/09/2014 5:15:35 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Entropy is high. Wear a hat!)
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To: Tax-chick

When we took family trips, pillows and comforters in the car all around and the air conditioning was cranked up to iceberg. We would listen to story tapes, short ones and long ones for hours at a time.


48 posted on 04/09/2014 5:28:16 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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To: Tax-chick; All; EDINVA

What’s been overlooked is that apparently they also dragged a helpless cat into this mess. WHO brings a cat on a boat trip around the world?


49 posted on 04/09/2014 5:35:37 PM PDT by SilvieWaldorfMD (A Realistically Really Real Housewife)
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To: leapfrog0202

I know of a family that did this. What’s worse is they’re happy to tell you they and their children lived naked on the boat.....and they’re complete idiots and slobs.


50 posted on 04/09/2014 5:41:41 PM PDT by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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